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    NEW Mojave??
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    NEW Mojave??
    I am currently still using Sierra and had been hesitant to upgrade to High Sierra as heard there were some problems with some apps. before I install Sierra, I did not contact my app companies to see if they were compatible. most were, thankfully. of course this was sometime ago and Sierra is supposed to be stable. did not choose to do the same for High Sierra.

    Now I see there is yet another new OS Mojave......and see that there are some things going on with this new OS.

    it seems that apple is going the way of Windows...changing OS so often...guess it is what users are asking but I find it very frustrating to deal with all the differences each version. guess I will just have to live with that.

    tis like driving a brand new car with all bells and whistles and not using half of them....and then wonder how to deal with those differences...lol lol lol

    My question is....should I upgrade to High Sierra before Mojave...not that I am about to do that soon....or just wait until all all glitches have been fixed and bypass installing High Sierra?

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    L2014 Mac mini macOS Mojave, iPhone 8+ iOS 12, 12.9" iPad Pro 1 iOS 12, Pencil 1
    Every year, Apple has been upgrading their OS versions. They are all free, and you may want to download it, just to have it. But, that's up to you. If there is something you want in the newer macOS, then you should get it. There will be issues, because that's how things are now, with "on the fly" beta testing. Nobody has the same PC setup as you, so you will experience these differences. If the Mac you're using, is used for work, and needs to be running properly all the time, stick with what you're using, since it's doing what you need it to do.
    -- Bob --
    Please backup. Everything has a life cycle, unexpected and warning free. Nothing will last as long as you want it to.

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    You should do all the OS updates and also the app updates as Software Uodate presents them to you. Each version is more secure that the previous one.

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    Apple has been releasing a new version of the OS every year for a few years now, there's nothing new there. The bulk of the developers (that care about their apps), get into the Beta program for the OS and ensure that their apps work with the newest OS once it is released to the general public. If you are using some archaic app that is no longer supported, then that's a different story and you should try to switch to a different more supported app.

    The bulk of the people will find that nearly all of their normal apps will work without any issues as the OS upgrades.

    As someone who has been upgrading to the latest versions of the OS on day one, I can say that there are no issues at all and the vast majority of folks don't face any issues. It's just a small handful that have any issues and since they voice their issues it seems like things are broken, but if ALL the people who said things went fine were to post somewhere it'd be too overwhelming.

    You can no longer get to High Sierra since that's gone, so if you're going to upgrade and you really should on a supported Mac, you'll go to Mojave.

    The beauty of upgrading the OS is that you get the security updates and a whole bunch of new features. If you want to stay ignorant about the features, you can continue to be so and all the things you were doing on Sierra will work JUST the same on Mojave.
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    2017 13" MBPro, 2013 13" MBAir, 2010 MacPro, iPhone X
    You do not indicate what year your MBPro is. Check out this page from apple to make sure your model is compatible with Mojave.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475

    If you choose to just upgrade to High Sierra you can still download it. Just scroll down the page on the link I posted. At the bottom of the page you will see links that will provide downloads for Sierra, High Sierra and even El Capitan. The link opens up the app store through iTunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lori5060 View Post
    I am currently still using Sierra and had been hesitant to upgrade to High Sierra as heard there were some problems with some apps.

    ..........Now I see there is yet another new OS Mojave......and see that there are some things going on with this new OS.
    Hi Lori.... - you've already received some great advice, so can only reinforce a few comments already made - first, I agree w/ Lisa, i.e. which year is your MBPro (you can use 'About This Mac') - also, see first pic below, a MBP mid-2012 is the oldest compatible? I've upgraded my early 2015 MBAir to Mojave (now v. 10.14.1) w/o a problem; my older MBPro (early 2013) is still on High Sierra - plan to wait for a few more minor updates and if no problems are mentioned for these older 'on the fence laptops', then I'll upgrade.

    Second, Mojave is the last macOS that will run 32-bit apps (see second pic), so you'll need to check - simply run a 'System Report', then select 'Applications' under 'Software' - click on the 64-bit column to re-order your apps - see last pic showing that I have just 5 32-bit apps remaining on my MBAir - I deleted a few and will see if others have 64-bit versions, of course for the next macOS upgrade. Remember to make a backup, if you're able and will try Mojave - good luck! Dave
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    Like Ashwin, I usually update on day one. But I do make sure that certain apps which are critical to me are supported. Generally you can get a good idea of which apps are supported in the new version of macOS by consulting the "Roaring Apps" web site.

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    +1 for what chscag said. I usually upgrade pretty close to day one, but then I keep my apps updated, too, so the "shock" of upgrading is lower. It's the folks who fall 2, 3, or 4 versions behind who seem to have the most trouble, mostly because the apps may be current for, let's say, Sierra, but are not at the proper release for Mojave. So the system gets updated and, boom, the app crashes. The user stumbles around a bit, eventually gets the proper updates to the apps installed and all is well. But it's painful to do it that way.

    Which is why I try to stay pretty current.
    Jake

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    Good advice Jake, just like the OS, apps have to be constantly upgraded as well. Additionally, as developers obsolete certain apps, you should proactively look for alternatives or you'll find yourself in a bind.
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    But....
    Eventually, upgrading the OS means buying new apps that you have which will no longer work fully.

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    Hello Lori, what can i tell you I live in Oklahoma and am a Sooner...which for me means i always like to get the new updates as soon as possible. Have been with Apple/Mac since the 80's and there has only been a couple times i have regretted it getting the early updates that is, but both times they have my particular problems quickly fixed and off we flew with the new version. Apple has deemed that my 2009 Mac Pro desktop has about like me out lived it's usefulness and can't be upgraded past El Capitan. Although with 16gig of ram, a good gaming video processor, a good sound system along with almost 3T of mostly SSD drives it can still pretty much hold it's own when it comes to getting things done.

    Anyway, back to your problem there. When Apple cut my desktop off from new OS Updates i went out and bought myself a new MacBook Pro that had High Sierra on it and it worked very good and i was quite pleased with it. Of course then it wasn't to long before they came out with Mojave so i had to give that a try too. Original beta worked just fine for me, but second beta crashed the whole computer, and had to go back to High Sierra, which worked just fine. By beta 3 of Mojave they had the problem fixed and i once again installed Mojave on my MacBook Pro and have gone through about 5 beta updates all of which worked fine and am now running the latest public version of Mojave which is running just fine with no problems what ever.

    So girl here is what i would recommend...go for it, taking all the usual precautions of doing a complete rock solid backup and then if feeling a bit frisky install the Mojave public version with will give you the latest version going and should be plenty far along to be past 98 percent to the problems, why not go for the biggest and best instead of settling for an older passed over OS...Not that High Sierra wasn't and isn't a good OS but why settle for less than newest and best eh?
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    If you want continued use of an app, you have to upgrade/update it. If you don't want to do that, then don't upgrade the OS either. Stay stuck in time so that everything works just as as it has. But something will always force your hand.

    The MOST common scenario that people never consider is when they upgrade their phone to the newest one. The new phone runs a version of iOS that needs a newer(est) version of iTunes to connect to which requires a newer(est) version of the OS and if you are adamant about not upgrading the OS, then no iTunes and boom no connection to the iPhone. Thankfully the newer version of iOS can be managed totally separately from iTunes now.
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    many thanks all of your for your suggestions...I have mbp2017...so am within range of updating to Mojave. I have contacted several of my apps as to whether they are compatible with Mojave...and most are.....just waiting on a couple more.

    when updates show for apps, I usually do them on all my devices...and I usually do updates to operating systems also...tho for MBP am little cautious.

    since high Sierra has been approved compatible for my downloaded/purchased apps...I could upgrade to it before upgrading Mojave.
    tho one of you said that upgrading from a few versions back is when sometimes problems can occur and I don't want that.

    would it make sense to upgrade to high Sierra AND upgrade to Mojave later....or just what until I am comfortable with upgrading to Mojave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lori5060 View Post
    many thanks all of your for your suggestions...I have mbp2017...so am within range of updating to Mojave. I have contacted several of my apps as to whether they are compatible with Mojave...and most are.....just waiting on a couple more.

    when updates show for apps, I usually do them on all my devices...and I usually do updates to operating systems also...tho for MBP am little cautious.

    since high Sierra has been approved compatible for my downloaded/purchased apps...I could upgrade to it before upgrading Mojave.
    tho one of you said that upgrading from a few versions back is when sometimes problems can occur and I don't want that.

    would it make sense to upgrade to high Sierra AND upgrade to Mojave later....or just what until I am comfortable with upgrading to Mojave?
    If you didn't already download High Sierra, you do not have access to it right now. There is no reason to do a step upgrade if your machine supports Mojave.

    Either way, make a bootable backup with CCC or SuperDuper of your existing system. Then upgrade to Mojave, if things don't work out, you can just return to your current system.
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    NEW Mojave??
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    Many thanks ashwin.... I vaguely remember the app super duper and have it on my Mac.... couldn’t remember what it was for.
    Good to know that I can actually go back to previous OS if I don’t like Mojave!
    Am not too tech and will have to look into more about it how to do that bootable backup. I remember I looked into this initially but was unsure of doing myself. So did nothing! Will revisit and see if I got any smarter since! Lol lol lol

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