So far i've learnt theres alot of effort involved when it comes to making ringtones for the iphone that wont get deleted like the effect of the new itunes updated with itoner and other various companies. But i'm finding now that i can bothered to make the ringtones using the convert m4a to m4r technique that even though itunes is saying their are no ringtones in my iphone ringtones folder, their actually is. If you know anyway ways in which i can remove these ringtones from my iphone, please post.
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