Apple releases iOS and iPadOS 13.2.3

[chscag]

I don't know who is more geeky, Jake or Randy? LOL.

Both have a wealth of knowledge and it's a pleasure to have them as members of this forum.

 

[IWT]

Hear, hear!

Ian

 

[Cr00zng]

Great app Jake, thanks!

All sensors are seemingly working, the accelerometer readout change as the iPhone moved:




The linear accelerometer display is fun to play with, trying to get the green ball in to every corner:




All readouts change rapidly with the movement of the iPhone, including the gravity sensor.

Seemingly, the sensors are not the reason for the "Do not disturb while driving" not working. This was somewhat predictable, since the map app works just fine. Setting a destination displays the estimated time of arrival, that changes as the speed changes and/or getting closer to the destination.

Since there are no issues with the sensor, the issue with the "Do not disturb while driving" not working is probably software related. Maybe I should just install iOS 13.2.3 from Apple, after backing up my iPhone.

Would iMazing make this process easier? They have a 50% off Black Friday sale, that looks very tempting...

 

[MacInWin]

I would recommend iMazing, particularly at a discount, as it is a better backup system than iTunes used to be. I'd to that even if it wasn't good at upgrading the OS, which it is.

That said, back to the original issue. DND isn't associated with the accelerometers, I think, but the GPS. When GPS senses you moving faster than 3 mph (I think) it triggers DND. The speed may be higher, but I seem to recall reading 3 mph somewhere. That seems slow, as that would mean DND would kick in if you were running faster than a 20 minute mile pace. Sly did report that DND kicks in when he gets his chair rolling fast, so maybe that 3 mph is correct. Anyway, when the GPS senses the speed limit is passed, DND is supposed to kick in. So you might want to check to see if you have somehow limited the GPS (location services) function.

 

[Cr00zng]

Thanks Jake...

As I learn more and more about backing up iOS and/or MacOS, it isn't what I've got used to in the Windows world; even with iMazing, some of the data isn't backed up.

That's probably just me, I prefer to control every aspects of the backups, like type of backup, where to backup, etc., that doesn't quite work on the same way with the Apple world. These type of backups remind me of the Apple's motto, "It just works..." You could say that I am incompatible with Apple world...;D

The location services are limited and enabled on the "While using" basis, just like on the 6s that works just fine with DND. There's no "app" for DND on its own and the chances are that it is relying on one of the "System Services" for accessing the location. I did disable the location based Alerts, Ads, etc., in system services, but don't believe that is the service it relying on. Worth for a try, thanks...

 

[MacInWin]

You can define where the backups go in iMazing. Open iMazing/Preferences/Backup and set the default to where you want the backups to go.

Not sure what you mean that data isn't backed up. The few times I had to restore, I got everything back, so I didn't have anything missing. What isn't being backup for you?

I have all of the system services in Settings/Privacy/location services turned on except for "Update Maps." I haven't used DND in a long time, but I'll give it a try next time I go out. I have trained myself to ignore my phone while driving, except for the GPS Map services. No texting, no emails. I do answer phone calls, but use hands-free in my car to do so. But as I said, I'll give it a test next time I'm out and about.

 

[Cr00zng]

Yes, you can define backup location with iMazing, but... Once defined, it cannot be changed without removing the device and start from fresh. Just a minor annoyance...

Based on my initial backup of devices, it seems that iMazing does not backup emails and their settings. I have not used restore as of yet with iMazing, or iTunes for that matter, but take your word that it does work.

I don't use my iPhone either, while driving. It just came up couple of moth ego and curious, why the DND does not work. Comparing my settings with the 6s, there are actually four differences; on mine, these "System Services" are disabled:

1. Location Based Apple Ads
2. Wi-Fi Networking
3. iPhone Analytics
4. Popular Near Me

Maybe the DND is relying one, or more of these services to access GPS. I'll enable them one by one to see, if the DND behavior changes...

 

[MacInWin]

Yes, you can define backup location with iMazing, but... Once defined, it cannot be changed without removing the device and start from fresh. Just a minor annoyance...

I seem to remember changing the destination without having to have iMazing forget the device. It did then make a full backup at the new location, but that is to be expected. Are you sure of that statement? I didn't try to move the older backups over to the new location, they aren't that important to me. I just deleted the old ones and let iMazing do what it does.

Based on my initial backup of devices, it seems that iMazing does not backup emails and their settings. I have not used restore as of yet with iMazing, or iTunes for that matter, but take your word that it does work.

I don't know about emails and backup. What happens is that as soon as you reconnect to the email provider, the emails are loaded onto your iPhone, if you are on IMAP anyway. I think POP does not do that, but then I have moved off that old tech and onto IMAP for all my emails, so all I can say is that when the iPhone restores were done, and I opened email, the messages were there.

 

[Cr00zng]

I made the mistake of not changing the default backup location, C\Users\UID\Appdata\iMazing\Backups on Windows, at the first time backing up my iPhone. iMazing didn't allow changes for the backup location, had to forget the location, remove the backup, define the backup location and add my iPhone again.

In another word, the backup location had to be defined prior to adding the device.

About emails...

iMazing allows viewing what is in the backup, but no emails show up in the browsing list. I am not certain, if the email providers' configuration are backed up. One of the reason why I haven't tested the iMazing restore as of yet. I'll probably do it, when there's no other choice...

Yes, once you recreate the provider's configuration, it'll download whatever emails are on the server. The thing is, if you have 4 - 6 email accounts on the iPhone, that'll take some time to add the email accounts. Not to mention that collecting all of the email account configurations will take some time. I guess they should be collected now, instead of looking for them later. Just in case...

 

[MacInWin]

Ah, I don't use Windows at all, so I was speaking of iMazing on macOS. The backup location is set with the device connected and seems to allow different locations for each device. There is a "default" location, which is also able to be changed. In the Windows version, have you tried connect the device, then clicking on "Options" and "Backup Location?" That is where it is set in macOS.

 

[Slydude]

This discussion has got me curious about whether DND handles things for me better than it used to do. I have not tried that feature in some time so I'm curious t see if it still trggers when I'm moving through the building at work.

 

[Cr00zng]

That's what I did at the first time, prior to running iMazing backup; specified where I wanted to backup the iOS. At least on Windows, once you connect the device, iMazing uses the default backup location for iOS backup. Here's the image from Windows:



Once I've removed the device, deleted all of the data, created the current backup location and connected the device again, the backup went where I wanted to.

About the email backup...

Here's the tech support's response on the subject:

While emails are not stored in a backup, accounts and passwords are.

However, passwords are backed up only if backup encryption is enabled.

Since my backups on any platforms are encrypted, I am all set. It also explains why your emails were downloaded after restoring your iPhone from backup...

As long as I won't have to add 4-6 email accounts after the restore, the five licenses for iMazing at 35 bucks was worth every penny...

 

[MacInWin]

Just curious, If you click on the "Devices" tab, I presume it then shows your devices that have attached to iMazing. Are there any settings in that device-specific tab for where to put the backup? Here is the Mac screen for my iPhone:

As you can see, there is an option to change this device away from the default it is presently using. That change would not change the default, just the location of this particular device's backups.

 

[Cr00zng]

This discussion has got me curious about whether DND handles things for me better than it used to do. I have not tried that feature in some time so I'm curious t see if it still trggers when I'm moving through the building at work.

Makes me curious, how do you move through the building at work? I just walk...

Judging by my iPhone 8 Plus with iOS 13.2.3, DND isn't handled well. Even after enabling all of the "System Services", it still didn't work. Yes, I disable/enable DND and reboot did not make a difference.

Maybe reinstalling iOS would make a difference. iMazing makes that easy, but at this point, I am not certain that it would be worth for doing it. Maybe during the holiday season, if I have time...

 

[Nighthawk4]

One useful thing I discovered. I have iOS13 on an iPad for testing prior to risking my iPad Pro and I am not too sure about the smaller icons yet.

However, there is an option in Settings which switches between the smaller ones and the original view.

This works like a toggle. Any surplus icons are placed on an additional page inserted after the page which had too many. Even better, these extra pages are removed and the icons put back in the original location when you switch back.

There are a number of things that have changed in iOS13 that I don’t like, some of which are fairly critical, so it is good to be able to find one I do like. Credit where it is due.


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[Slydude]

Makes me curious, how do you move through the building at work? I just walk...

Apparently I propel my wheelchair through the hallways fast enough to trigger the DND warning. I can't be going that fast I haven't gotten a ticket from the school resource officer yet. Imagine what I could do if I got one of those motorized electric gizmos.

 

[MacInWin]

Here is Apple's take on DNDD: How to use Do Not Disturb While Driving - Apple Support

Note that it's turned on by several mechanisms. One is speed, but it can also be tied to events in your car audio system.

 

[Cr00zng]

Apparently I propel my wheelchair through the hallways fast enough to trigger the DND warning. I can't be going that fast I haven't gotten a ticket from the school resource officer yet. Imagine what I could do if I got one of those motorized electric gizmos.

I am sorry, I didn't know that.

I apologize for my previous comment and hope, it had not been hurtful in any ways...

 

[Cr00zng]

Here is Apple's take on DNDD: How to use Do Not Disturb While Driving - Apple Support

Note that it's turned on by several mechanisms. One is speed, but it can also be tied to events in your car audio system.

My 20 years old pickup truck's only option is speed and that does not work, no matter what I've tried so far. I don't count the manually enabling it as working; nonetheless, it does send out DND customized text in that case...

 

[MacInWin]

My 20 years old pickup truck's only option is speed and that does not work

OK, I know what you meant, but I read this that the TRUCK can't get up to sufficient speed. I've had trucks like that...