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I have found that Waze works well on my vehicles Sync 3 system if I use CarPlay, but since I don't have an iPhone myself I have been looking into buying a used one. One of the things I do not know is how far back I can go and still get CarPlay on the iPhone. Does an iPhone 6 have CarPlay on it? Or an iPhone 5?

I don't actually plan to use the iPhone as a phone, but only as a platform for Waze and, perhaps, Google Maps, but am uncertain how old an iPhone I can buy and still expect it to work. I don't want to add it as an extra line on my plan so I expect to use an existing hot spot to provide internet and just use the iPhone to run mapping software.

I tried this using an iPad but CarPlay is not part of the OS on an iPad so all of those attempts failed.
 

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Check the bottom of this page for the list of supported phones. Currently it looks like the iPhone 5 is the earliest model that's supported. I've never owned the 5 but it might be better to look at one of the 6 series phones or better if you can find a deal.

I don't see any iPads on the supported list but I have seen reports of CarPlay use on jailbroken iPads but haven't tried it myself.
 
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Check the bottom of this page for the list of supported phones. Currently it looks like the iPhone 5 is the earliest model that's supported. I've never owned the 5 but it might be better to look at one of the 6 series phones or better if you can find a deal.

I don't see any iPads on the supported list but I have seen reports of CarPlay use on jailbroken iPads but haven't tried it myself.

Thank you. I was looking at BackMarket.com to see what an iPhone 6 costs, but was uncertain if it came with CarPlay. Apparently it does, so that is one possibility. I have been using an Android phone to run Waze on my Sync 3 system but Android Auto is a pain and does not work smoothly. CarPlay runs quickly and easily and seems like a much better choice.

I have an iPad mini 5, and would use it if it had CarPlay installed, but iPads do not seem to come with CarPlay so using it is not possible. I have no real interest in jail breaking my iPad. I am sure it would invalidate my AppleCare in any case.
 

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CarPlay requires IOS 7.1 or higher but other than that you should be good to go so to speak. As long as your vehicle's infotainment system supports CarPlay of course. The page I linked to in post #2 has a link where you can check which makes/models of vehicles work with CarPlay. There are also aftermarket infotainment units for some models that did not originally support it.
 
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CarPlay requires IOS 7.1 or higher but other than that you should be good to go so to speak. As long as your vehicle's infotainment system supports CarPlay of course. The page I linked to in post #2 has a link where you can check which makes/models of vehicles work with CarPlay. There are also aftermarket infotainment units for some models that did not originally support it.

I know that the system supports CarPlay because I was able to run it using my wife's iPhone 8 Plus. I could use her phone for the navigation stuff but it has to be attached to the USB port and she often wants to use it for browsing and calls while we are on the road so I was looking for something else to use.

My first thought was an iPad but, of course, that does not work, so my second thought was a used iPhone and hence the question about how far back I could go and still have CarPlay. I don't want to add another phone to our plan as the cost is a bit high but I suppose if I don't actually activate the phone on a network and use a hot spot as a wifi router, then the device should work for Waze and Maps, which is all I want it for. I think. It will have gps hardware and that should work regardless of whether or not the device is on a cell network, and it will have internet access from the hot spot.

I am making quite a few assumptions here, but I think this should work for a dedicated Waze/Google Maps nav device using the vehicle's Sync 3 system.
 

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I think I have been able to use my phone for surfing etc. while the Maps app was up on the infotainment screen. It's not something I do often because the bouncing up and down makes reading web pages annoying. I'll check tomorrow and let you know for sure.
 
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I think I have been able to use my phone for surfing etc. while the Maps app was up on the infotainment screen. It's not something I do often because the bouncing up and down makes reading web pages annoying. I'll check tomorrow and let you know for sure.

I would think that the phone could be used for both navigation and browsing or calling, but the phone is attached to the USB port via a lightning cable and hence can not go far. My wife likes to take the phone and sit at the dining room table or couch when taking on the phone and could not if it were attached to the Sync 3 USB port. Still, it would be nice to know.

A working (and guaranteed) iPhone 6/6S is less than $200 on BackMarket (well, some of them are) so it may be worth just buying one if I can not get my old Android phone working with the nav system. It requires Android Auto, which is a first class pain, and is horribly slow, so the iPhone seems like a better option every day.
 

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I confirmed it this morning on the way back from an appointment this morning. CarPlay does indeed allow you to have the Maps app open while you are doing other things on the phone. In my case I was able to look at a page in Safari IIRC. I also had another app open streaming a program. I didn't have the map displayed just giving the turn by turn directions but I'm sure I've done it with the map displayed as well.

There is one thing I found odd about Maps the first time I used CarPlay but now I'm used to it. Suppose someone has Maps to giving turn-by-turn directions and it is 1.6 miles to the next turn. As I approach that turn, the distance to the turn displays correctly as I go along updating every tenth of a mile or so. Inside a tenth of a mile the distance to the turn is given in feet. On my phone screen however the distance is still given as 1.6 miles. Exit numbers and other info is correct. This is a minor issue and only noticeable to me because I'm in the shotgun seat and can see both screens.
 
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Using CarPlay on my Ford Sync 3 system is still quite new to me. I had originally read the CarPlay FAQ as to mean that I had to use App Link to run Waze and Google Maps and that meant I had to disable CarPlay, but that process never really worked for me as I always got responses that said that the system was waiting for my wife's iPhone and it never responded, and I never saw any dialog box on it waiting for input from me. It was only when I read that Waze could be run through CarPlay that I changed how I tried to connect to the system. With the usb cable CarPlay and Waze not only worked, but was fast and responsive.

The reason for all of this explanation is as the basis for a question. Can CarPlay be run through a Bluetooth connection? Or does it require a usb cable?

I have had no trouble getting it to run with a usb cable but never tried a Bluetooth connection and, since the Sync 3 system and the Ford Transit chassis that it resides in is in storage, I have not been able to easily try CarPlay over Bluetooth. If it can be run through Bluetooth, then there is no issue for me to use it to run Waze and still make it easy for my wife to use her phone. If it can only be run through a usb cable, then that poses issues and would probably require me to buy a used iPhone so that my wife's phone was fully portable and to allow her to roam through the RV using the phone while we were on the road.
 

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I looked at this a bit when we were looking for a new car. Wireless CarPlay has theoretically been available since, I believe, IOS 9. It is possible if the vehicle has both Bluetooth and W-Fi capabilities . In reality, it seems there are only a handful of vehicles and aftermarket stereo systems that support wireless CarPlay.

Although this article is from 2018 I don't think things have changed much in the last year. It doesn't discuss RVs though so maybe someone in that arena is doing this wirelessly.
 

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Our 2019 Honda CRV has wireless CarPlay plus a lot of other things that I really haven't got all figured out yet. :)
 

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We took a close look at both the CRV and HRV. One was just a tad too high for me to climb into easily. We finally settled on the Outback for two reasons:
1. SWMBO has wanted an Outback for a while.
2. I found the cup holders in the Honda to be in a bit of an awkward place for us.
 
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We are leaving on a trip next week so I will get the RV out of storage and check it out. It is on a 2018 Ford Transit chassis and perhaps that is new enough to support Bluetooth CarPlay.

I don't think the fact that it is in an RV is really important. It is in a standard Ford Transit chassis and I would think that the hardware and software for Sync 3 systems would be the same for all 2018 vehicles, but then again I may be far too optimistic.
 

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I've been doing a bit of poking around Mike. I haven't seen anything definitive about whether the Transit based vehicles, RV or otherwise, have wi-fi though I suppose it's possible with some of the option packages.

That is one nice ride. I've got a birthday coming up in a few months if you are looking for birthday gifts.:smile
 
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I've been doing a bit of poking around Mike. I haven't seen anything definitive about whether the Transit based vehicles, RV or otherwise, have wi-fi though I suppose it's possible with some of the option packages.

The Transit is wifi compatible, I carry a portable cell hot spot with us when we travel and so the Sync 3 system does have internet access when we are on the road depending, of course, on the availability of cell signals where we are. One of the things we do is travel a lot in truly rural areas and often there is no signal for dozens of miles or more.

We make the trip from El Paso to San Antonio a couple of times a year and there is no cell signal for much of the trip through the Texas panhandle. We have driven through the area near Death Valley, Ca and found no cell signal of any kind for perhaps 50-75 miles. We go into the mountains of New Mexico and although the cities around the mountains have cell service the mountains block that out and we have none. I suppose that is the reason that the RV comes with a gps navigation system, and that works where ever we go. Still, I find Waze to be more helpful when we do have a signal.

That is one nice ride. I've got a birthday coming up in a few months if you are looking for birthday gifts.:smile

;D

We do like it, but at only 24 feet it is small, and is really only for 2 people. We decided to get something that would be easy to drive and reasonably economical and it gets about 18+ mpg with the Ford Diesel so using it is not terribly expensive. And we got last year's model so it did not cost too much when we bought it.

Where we live in southern Arizona RVs are so common that they almost seem like second cars, but most of the people have much larger units, Class A RVs, which are usually 35 feet long or longer, and many have Toy Haulers that they use to carry their ATVs and such, so you might want something a bit fancier and bigger than our poor little RV. :D

From what I can see when we travel there are a lot of RVs in Louisiana as well. We have traveled through there on our way to New Orleans and the Florida panhandle where I used to live years ago, and RVs seem fairly common there.

One thing I have noticed is that car manufacturers have been a bit slow to catch up to the electronics revolution and the ever-present internet. Our car, which is a 2016, has no connectivity at all other than the ability to use the mobile phone for calls through the car's interface. The 2018 Transit allows for wifi if the user has a hot spot and can run CarPlay and Android Auto but the new cars now apparently have built-in routers to allow the vehicle itself to serve as a hot spot. The manufacturers were slow, but they finally got there.

And thank you for your help in this issue. I greatly appreciate it.
 

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but the new cars now apparently have built-in routers to allow the vehicle itself to serve as a hot spot. The manufacturers were slow, but they finally got there.

Our Honda has that. But to be honest Mike, new cars are getting so complex electronically that if anything does go wrong with any of it, you better have a good warranty or extended warranty. We recently received a notice from Honda saying to bring the CRV in so they can update the software with a newer version. What does that remind you of? :agree
 
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@Mike I do remember seeing quite a few RVs when we went to AZ a few years ago. The thing that truly amazed me were the golf carts tricked out to look like luxury automobiles (Bentley, Rolls, etc).
 

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You may be able to do it yourself and sane the trip and appointment time at the dealers:

I'm going to wait until we reach 5K miles. Have to bring it in then anyway for their free oil change, checkup, etc. There's also a recall item that I'm not sure what is involved that has to be done at the same time. The letter from Honda says it will take an hour but when I called the dealer, they said we would have to leave it overnight. Somebody is blowing smoke.... :goofy
 
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The letter from Honda says it will take an hour but when I called the dealer, they said we would have to leave it overnight. Somebody is blowing smoke....


Maybe the Honda rep is assuming the dealer has an intelligent robot installed that could do the work. Or just underestimating like so many seem to be doing these days and still accepting their big bucks pay for their idiot incompetency!!



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