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    I need a Photos expert, please
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    Patrick, it's not going to sleep. I have the setting to keep the CPU awake all the time, just turn off the screen. I do it that way so that it doesn't lose the WiFI connection and have to reconnect on wake up. I have no idea why the scanning process is so slow. It ran through the first 3000+ in minutes, then slowed to the crawl it's doing now. It doesn't hurt to have it running, as it's only taking a few percent of the CPU every so often. Most it's at zero, so it's not doing much, but each day the count does move up by that 60 or so. At this exact time it has completed 4,268, so it is doing something. I found lots of folks complaining about it, but no solutions that work consistently. And there is nothing showing in the logs that would indicate any issues, either. It's working, just very, very slowly.
    Jake

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    I need a Photos expert, please
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    UPDATE: 5945 today, so in 26 days it scanned about 66 each day. At least it's consistent. Slow, but consistent. I figure 40 more days, unless I add Christmas pictures. Let's call it January 4th!
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    UPDATE: 5945 today, so in 26 days it scanned about 66 each day. At least it's consistent. Slow, but consistent. I figure 40 more days, unless I add Christmas pictures. Let's call it January 4th!


    It sounds like it may actually get done and finish everything by Easter if you add some Christmas photos!!!

    I sure hope in the end that with all that work it will be worth it and whatever it's doing will actually get used.





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    Patrick, the strange thing is that Photos is actually doing very little work. It rarely shows more than 1-2% of CPU. And yes I do have a need for this to be completed. So I'll just let it run, check for the progress periodically.
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    Patrick, the strange thing is that Photos is actually doing very little work. It rarely shows more than 1-2% of CPU. And yes I do have a need for this to be completed. So I'll just let it run, check for the progress periodically.


    Yes Jake, you mentioned that before, that the CPU just keeps idling along, but one would think it might want to speed up a bit when it knows you aren't needing any CPU resources and get the job done in a little bit more timely manor.

    Personally it seems that something is not as it should be or planned, and I wonder what the programmers were thinking or expecting, or did they even test the process???




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    I need a Photos expert, please
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    Patrick, it reminds me of an event when I worked at a major university. We had installed an application that used Oracle as the database to track our students. We tracked all current students, all former students, all graduates, all applicants, all alums, no matter how long it had been. So our "student" database had a couple of million records in it. We got a data input from the college boards of the score of all test-takers who had indicated interest in that university, about 250,000 records monthly. The first time we ran the merge, it ran forever. We called the vendor and talked with the programmers. They said they had a routine in the merge to make sure that a new record was never created if there was a record already there (which is a good thing) but that the routine had to take into account the many variations in the name (initials, nicknames, marriages, divorces, adoptions, you name it). We asked if they had tested it and they said they had. We asked for details, were told they had merged 3 names into a database of 10 names and the job finished in 7 minutes. When we pointed out that 7 minutes to merge 3 into 10 isn't a good thing, they said nobody had ever complained before.

    So my DBA spent a weekend, wrote a new routine that did the same merge of 250,000 into our huge database in three minutes. We sent it to the vendor's developers who basically said, "not built here" and dismissed it.

    So I suspect that if Apple tested, it was with a couple of pictures and one face. Nothing like reality.

    I don't want to mess with it at this point. I may look at a reinstall or to whack some plists once it's done, but for now, I'll let it chug. I don't shut down the Mac, so it has the full machine overnights, but it doesn't seem to want any CPU at all.
    Jake

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    When we pointed out that 7 minutes to merge 3 into 10 isn't a good thing, they said nobody had ever complained before.

    Sad!! That points out two of my real pet peeves lately — incompetence and idiots. We can't seem to escape them up here and they seem to be getting worse, and I fear you have more than enough of them down in your area as well.





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    I need a Photos expert, please
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    So it finished, sort of, yesterday. It's now showing my "People" page without a "scanning" message. But it now says "People will finish updating when Photos is in the background." I have no idea what that really means as Photos is currently taking 0.0% CPU. As I recall, if you put a zero in the denominator, the ratio becomes undefined, so with that, it appears it will never finish and make that message go away.
    Jake

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