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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
    hi guys some advice


    can anyone see what caused this error ?

    as its never happened before

    Anonymous UUID: 133BD2C9-2327-A91B-C6A3-7F200EF35D0A

    Mon Feb 11 15:44:48 2019

    *** Panic Report ***
    panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801b388f6f): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f9d636d40, type 14=page fault, registers:
    CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000370, CR3: 0x000000001dc33000, CR4: 0x00000000000026e0
    RAX: 0xc41a10dfab67004c, RBX: 0x00000000e00002d7, RCX: 0x0000000000000202, RDX: 0x000000007fffffff
    RSP: 0xffffff83c2473800, RBP: 0xffffff83c2473830, RSI: 0x0000000000000000, RDI: 0x0000000000000000
    R8: 0xffffff83c2473710, R9: 0x0000000000000008, R10: 0x0000000000000010, R11: 0x0000000000000000
    R12: 0xffffff83500b2000, R13: 0xffffff80590a3220, R14: 0xffffff83b97b4200, R15: 0x0000000000000330
    RFL: 0x0000000000010246, RIP: 0xffffff7f9d636d40, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
    Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000370, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x0, PL: 0, VF: 1

    Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff83c24732d0 : 0xffffff801b26e1c6
    0xffffff83c2473320 : 0xffffff801b396a74
    0xffffff83c2473360 : 0xffffff801b388d44
    0xffffff83c24733d0 : 0xffffff801b2201e0
    0xffffff83c24733f0 : 0xffffff801b26dc3c
    0xffffff83c2473520 : 0xffffff801b26d9fc
    0xffffff83c2473580 : 0xffffff801b388f6f
    0xffffff83c24736f0 : 0xffffff801b2201e0
    0xffffff83c2473710 : 0xffffff7f9d636d40
    0xffffff83c2473830 : 0xffffff7f9c4e5edc
    0xffffff83c2473870 : 0xffffff801b89b8d5
    0xffffff83c24738d0 : 0xffffff7f9c4e5fbc
    0xffffff83c24738f0 : 0xffffff7f9c4e53a4
    0xffffff83c2473960 : 0xffffff7f9c4e55cd
    0xffffff83c24739a0 : 0xffffff7f9d590987
    0xffffff83c2473a50 : 0xffffff7f9d58c842
    0xffffff83c2473ab0 : 0xffffff7f9d67d529
    0xffffff83c2473b30 : 0xffffff7f9d67c512
    0xffffff83c2473c50 : 0xffffff7f9d65f9b3
    0xffffff83c2473cb0 : 0xffffff7f9d65f7ca
    0xffffff83c2473d20 : 0xffffff7f9d6bced3
    0xffffff83c2473d70 : 0xffffff7f9d691a6b
    0xffffff83c2473e60 : 0xffffff7f9d68ac3c
    0xffffff83c2473ea0 : 0xffffff7f9d6363c6
    0xffffff83c2473ed0 : 0xffffff801b89a075
    0xffffff83c2473f30 : 0xffffff801b8987e2
    0xffffff83c2473f70 : 0xffffff801b897e0c
    0xffffff83c2473fa0 : 0xffffff801b21f557
    Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(3.4)[5A99D802-B477-3D83-9F76-304605479B9F]@0xffffff7f9c4d2000->0xffffff7f9c501fff
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(1200.12.2)[7338AE0E-D6CE-3FE0-9199-D9ED14D8FC37]@0xffffff7f9d532000->0xffffff7f9d627fff
    dependency: com.apple.driver.corecapture(1.0.4)[C208BB9A-2092-3E61-A62C-5F24C4909F8B]@0xffffff7f9d508000
    dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleMobileFileIntegrity(1.0.5)[F314E6BA-45C5-3D8B-A3BF-C4CAE13DDADC]@0xffffff7f9c19c000
    dependency: com.apple.kec.corecrypto(1.0)[A6B13A84-E981-3034-B5E5-BBB022188D4F]@0xffffff7f9c0ec000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(3.4)[5A99D802-B477-3D83-9F76-304605479B9F]@0xffffff7f9c4d2000
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40(700.74.5)[9753F22E-5C85-3E95-B543-0870CF03838A]@0xffffff7f9d628000->0xffffff7f9d76ffff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[D91E9813-9717-31B8-BFE5-2F3A00F375F3]@0xffffff7f9ba94000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(1200.12.2)[7338AE0E-D6CE-3FE0-9199-D9ED14D8FC37]@0xffffff7f9d532000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(3.4)[5A99D802-B477-3D83-9F76-304605479B9F]@0xffffff7f9c4d2000

    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

    Mac OS version:
    17G5019

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 17.7.0: Thu Dec 20 21:47:19 PST 2018; root:xnu-4570.71.22~1/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: 4A5298BF-709E-37DF-B7F0-4298065CC266
    Kernel slide: 0x000000001b000000
    Kernel text base: 0xffffff801b200000
    __HIB text base: 0xffffff801b100000
    System model name: iMac11,1 (Mac-F2268DAE)

    System uptime in nanoseconds: 182567890390408
    last loaded kext at 250065434969: com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.10 (addr 0xffffff7f9e220000, size 69632)
    loaded kexts:
    com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.10
    com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 3.2.3
    com.apple.filesystems.exfat 1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleTopCaseHIDEventDriver 135
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.5d0
    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsDevicePolicy 3.20.14
    com.apple.AGDCPluginDisplayMetrics 3.20.0
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.70
    com.apple.driver.AppleHV 1
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.6.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.kext.AMDLegacyFramebuffer 1.6.8
    com.apple.driver.pmtelemetry 1
    com.apple.ATIRadeonX2000 10.0.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 281.52
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 131
    com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.3d2
    com.apple.driver.AGPM 110.23.37
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
    com.apple.kext.AMD4800Controller 1.6.8
    com.apple.driver.AGDCBacklightControl 3.20.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 281.52
    com.apple.driver.eficheck 1
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 281.52
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.12.6
    com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 10.3.1
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40 700.74.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 3.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleOSXWatchdog 1
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothUSBDFU 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSlowAdaptiveClocking 4.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.5.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleFIVRDriver 4.1.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 353
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader 439.70.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBStorageCoexistentDriver 439.70.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 3.0.1
    com.apple.filesystems.hfs.kext 407.50.6
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTyp eDataless 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache 40
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTyp eZlib 1.0.0
    com.apple.AppleSystemPolicy 1.0
    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 404.30.2
    com.apple.filesystems.apfs 748.51.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 5.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 329.50.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 6.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 2.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 6.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClien t 220.50.1
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 183
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 8
    com.apple.security.quarantine 3
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 220.50.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleActuatorDriver 1614.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard 205.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleMultitouchDriver 1614.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleInputDeviceSupport 1614.11
    com.apple.driver.AppleHSBluetoothDriver 135
    com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.20.14
    com.apple.iokit.IOAVBFamily 683.1
    com.apple.plugin.IOgPTPPlugin 680.15
    com.apple.driver.AppleSSE 1.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 211.15
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 11
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 281.52
    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 526
    com.apple.AppleGPUWrangler 3.20.0
    com.apple.kext.AMDSupport 1.6.8
    com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl 3.20.14
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.1.0
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    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 281.52
    com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 281.52
    com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 206.5
    com.apple.vecLib.kext 1.2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.1.0
    com.apple.driver.mDNSOffloadUserClient 1.0.1b8
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 1200.12.2
    com.apple.driver.corecapture 1.0.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.14d1
    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy 1.0.0
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    com.apple.iokit.IOSlowAdaptiveClockingFamily 1.0.0
    com.apple.kext.AMDLegacySupport 1.6.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.18d1
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 519.21
    com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSB Transport 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransp ort 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerTransport 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 6.0.7f12
    com.apple.driver.usb.IOUSBHostHIDDevice 1.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 4.0.4
    com.apple.driver.usb.cdc 5.0.0
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    com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBHostCompositeDevice 1.2
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    com.apple.filesystems.hfs.encodings.kext 1
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 404.30.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.8
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    com.apple.driver.AppleXsanScheme 3
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 267.50.1
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    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.7.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 900.4.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 288
    com.apple.driver.usb.AppleUSBEHCIPCI 1.2
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    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.1
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    com.apple.security.sandbox 300.0
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    EOF
    Model: iMac11,1, BootROM 60.0.0.0.0, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.93 GHz, 32 GB, SMC 1.54f36
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4850, ATI Radeon HD 4850, PCIe
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x8313, 0x434C392D392D392044332D31333333202020
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142314737334442302D594B302020
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x8313, 0x434C392D392D392044332D31333333202020
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142314737334442302D594B302020
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x8F), Atheros 9280: 4.0.74.0-P2P
    Bluetooth: Version 6.0.7f12, 3 services, 27 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
    Serial ATA Device: SanDisk SDSSDH3500G, 500.11 GB
    Serial ATA Device: OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H
    USB Device: USB 2.0 Bus
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Ext HDD 1021
    USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader
    USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    USB Device: USB 2.0 Bus
    USB Device: Hub
    USB Device: Expansion
    USB Device: IR Receiver
    USB Device: Built-in iSight
    Thunderbolt Bus:
    Apple iMac mid 2011 27' intel Core I7 2600.
    32GB DDR3 Ram.
    Mac OSX 10.13.6
    500GB SSD 1TB HDD

  2. #2
    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
    jasongoldworthy's Avatar
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    Your Mac's Specs
    iMac Late 2009 32GB Intel Core i7 27" OSX 10.13.6
    it happened while trying to reconfigure my apple AirPort Extreme

    as I've tried it again and get the same thing happen.

    which is odd :-/
    Apple iMac mid 2011 27' intel Core I7 2600.
    32GB DDR3 Ram.
    Mac OSX 10.13.6
    500GB SSD 1TB HDD

  3. #3
    So you are in Airport Utility when doing this? You've done this in the past and not had any issues? The panic log isn't helpful enough, it's a generic "page fault" likely with a bad address. But it's kernel_task that's causing the issue it's in the depths of the OS and as such not easily fixed.

    Can you try booting into Safe Mode and doing the same action and see what happens?
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
    jasongoldworthy's Avatar
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    Your Mac's Specs
    iMac Late 2009 32GB Intel Core i7 27" OSX 10.13.6
    yeah I'm in the apple airport utility when trying to restore my AirPort Extreme,


    ive not tried safe mode at the moment but I can give it a go and see what happens,

    thanks

    Jason
    Apple iMac mid 2011 27' intel Core I7 2600.
    32GB DDR3 Ram.
    Mac OSX 10.13.6
    500GB SSD 1TB HDD

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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
    jasongoldworthy's Avatar
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    hi there,


    after going in to safe mode the whole iMac is lagging badly on everything even the log in screen

    the airport utility still crashed the Mac.


    so I've booted normally now and all the fans are on turbo :-/

    any ideas why ?

    thanks
    Apple iMac mid 2011 27' intel Core I7 2600.
    32GB DDR3 Ram.
    Mac OSX 10.13.6
    500GB SSD 1TB HDD

  6. #6
    In Safe Mode, the OS basically reduces the amount of things that run and is a great of isolating issues with apps. But it shouldn't necessarily lag or behave badly by itself.

    You should do a NVRAM/PRAM reset and then run OnyX to just clean things up. Then do a disk repair with Disk Utility. That should hopefully put the fan back to it's normal state and perhaps it will help with the Airport Utility crash. If not, one possible scenario is that your RAM might be going bad. Assuming you have 4x8GB sticks, reduce it down to 1 8GB and see if the crash happens. If not, continue to add additional RAM sticks until it happens. And when it does, operate the iMac on ONLY the perceived bad stick and see if it behaves very poorly, if so, you've found the culprit.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???

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    Your Mac's Specs
    iMac, i7 4GHz, 32GB memory, 1TB Blade, OSX 14.4 Mojave,
    Or maybe it is the kext hack you have used to get Mojave on a ten year old iMac.

    With Mac Pros after a hack it was advised not to download and install updates which may hobble the computer.
    Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    Or maybe it is the kext hack you have used to get Mojave on a ten year old iMac.

    With Mac Pros after a hack it was advised not to download and install updates which may hobble the computer.
    Not quite Harry. The OP's info say High Sierra 10.13.6 and the macOS version reported in the panic log is 17G5019 which maps to the same version per this Wikipedia page. So that is definitely not the issue.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???

    Member Since
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    Your Mac's Specs
    iMac, i7 4GHz, 32GB memory, 1TB Blade, OSX 14.4 Mojave,
    Read it Ashwin. I take this to mean it is running Mojave.


    Apple iMac Late 2009
    Intel Core i7
    32GB DDR3 Ram
    Mac OSX 10.14.3
    Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

  10. #10
    Interesting, the panic log definitely doesn't agree with that. Even if they managed to run Mojave on there, the panic log would reflect that version I imagine.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
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    MBP 15" Mid 2015, iPhone XS, an iMac, plus ATVs, AWatch, MacMini
    Harry, that is what his sig says, but the panic report has "17G5019" which is 10.13. All builds of HS start with "17." Now I don't know what the hack is to run Mojave on that machine, but unless it is also fooling the panic report, he's running 10.13.x. Mojave builds all start with "18."

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201260
    Jake

  12. #12
    BUT, if indeed Mojave is being run through a hack on an unsupported machine, then indeed that could be attributed to random issues.

    I have a 2009 iMac that is stuck on High Sierra and is rock solid and I have no intention of running Mojave on there.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    BUT, if indeed Mojave is being run through a hack on an unsupported machine, then indeed that could be attributed to random issues.

    I have a 2009 iMac that is stuck on High Sierra and is rock solid and I have no intention of running Mojave on there.


    And only God or some Gremlin might know what other bits and pieces are or might be still lingering about.

    And a good memory credit to harry for remembering the hack was run:
    but so far I'm still on OSX 10.14 but as its running slow on the internet I'm using my MacBook Pro more than ever.

    I have the following in the iMac I7-870 2.93ghz 32GB DDR3 ram 500GB SSD
    https://www.mac-forums.com/showthrea...t=#post1813675

    Maybe such users and posters should post some sort of warning flag that says they have been mucking around with some OS hacks.
    It might save some members a fair bit of trouble shooting.





    - Patrick
    ======

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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
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    Your Mac's Specs
    2017 27" iMac, 10.5" iPad Pro, iPhone 7+, iPhone 8, Numerous iPods, Mojave
    @Jason:

    Run EtreCheck and post its log here so we can take a look at what's going on. EtreCheck is a free app you can download from here.

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    Imac Hung And Rebooted with an Error ???
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    EtreCheck is a free app you can download from here.

    Excuse me, but why does everyone keep referring to EtreCheck as a free app when it only has a free trial, and then pops up a warning message after so many uses (maybe five at most) saying something like "You have been using EtreCheck for x time, you have x number of trials left or you can pay for it now" and a link to the payment site???

    Seems like almost like a Bait and Switch type tactic or just a money grabber. Deceiving when their site says: FREE DOWNLOAD. Not completely!!





    - Patrick
    ======
    Last edited by pm-r; 02-12-2019 at 01:22 PM.

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