Please visit the new Mac-Forums Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/macforums1




Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17
  1. #1
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    Hi All,

    I need to Defrag a USB drive but I cant find a tool for it and not sure if First Aid in Disk utility will do it.

    Long Story Short I have a program on my USB drive and I need to defrag the drive so it will work in an old computer console, all videos on it use windows so need to see if there's a good/reliable tool for mac otherwise its the VirtualBox route.

    cheers

  2. #2
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    ferrarr's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 21, 2012
    Location
    Pawtucket, RI, US
    Posts
    6,396
    Your Mac's Specs
    L2014 Mac mini macOS 14, iPhone 8+ iOS 12, 12.9" iPad Pro 1 iOS 12, Pencil 1
    Rep Power
    13
    How is the drive formatted? HFS+? exFAT? FAT? I don't know if winOS can defrag HFS+ formatted drives?

    See here, https://coriolis-systems.com/support...-need-os-x-10x
    -- Bob --
    Please backup. Everything has a life cycle, unexpected and warning free. Nothing will last as long as you want it to.

  3. #3
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    How is the drive formatted? HFS+? exFAT? FAT? I don't know if winOS can defrag HFS+ formatted drives?

    See here, https://coriolis-systems.com/support...-need-os-x-10x
    Thanks ferrarr

    Its Fat 32

    I'll give the download a try

  4. #4
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    pigoo3's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 20, 2008
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    41,143
    Your Mac's Specs
    2011 17" MBP 2.2ghz, 16gig ram, OS 10.11.6
    Rep Power
    43
    Quote Originally Posted by kaz cooke View Post
    I need to Defrag a USB drive but I cant find a tool for it and not sure if First Aid in Disk utility will do it.
    Should probably more specifiically define what sort of 'USB drive" this is. "USB" is an interface/port-type...not a type of drive. In theory this "USB drive" could be:

    - An older style "spinner" hard drive.
    - A thumb drive/stick drive.
    - An external optical drive.
    - An external SDD.

    If this happened to be an external SSD...it's not recommended to defrag SSD's.

    I realize that very likely this is an external spinner HD. But in theory...a "USB Drive" could be a lot of different things.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

  5. #5
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    ferrarr's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 21, 2012
    Location
    Pawtucket, RI, US
    Posts
    6,396
    Your Mac's Specs
    L2014 Mac mini macOS 14, iPhone 8+ iOS 12, 12.9" iPad Pro 1 iOS 12, Pencil 1
    Rep Power
    13
    Nick, I took USB drive to mean Thumb/Flash drive, but you're correct, clarification is needed.
    -- Bob --
    Please backup. Everything has a life cycle, unexpected and warning free. Nothing will last as long as you want it to.

  6. #6
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    My bad, should of clarified in the original post. but yes its a USB thumb/flash

  7. #7
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    MacInWin's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jan 01, 2009
    Location
    Winchester, VA
    Posts
    6,170
    Your Mac's Specs
    MBP 15" Mid 2015, iPhone XS, an iMac, plus ATVs, AWatch, MacMini
    Rep Power
    26
    The easiest way to do that for free is to copy everything off the thumb drive to your Mac, erase and reformat the thumb drive and then copy everything back to it. The files being put back will be defragged because the drive is empty and clean when you start.
    Jake

  8. #8
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    Raz0rEdge's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jul 17, 2009
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    11,778
    Rep Power
    22
    Why do you need a defrag the USB thumb drive to begin with?
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


  9. #9
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    Why do you need a defrag the USB thumb drive to begin with?
    I need to defrag it so a program will work on an old computer console

  10. #10
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    Raz0rEdge's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jul 17, 2009
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    11,778
    Rep Power
    22
    Quote Originally Posted by kaz cooke View Post
    I need to defrag it so a program will work on an old computer console
    Why would the console care? The file table of the format you've chosen will keep track of the chunks of data and should allow access to everything. The situation where I see having contiguous data is important is if the data is being access in a raw manner bypassing the fat table.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


  11. #11
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    Why would the console care? The file table of the format you've chosen will keep track of the chunks of data and should allow access to everything. The situation where I see having contiguous data is important is if the data is being access in a raw manner bypassing the fat table.
    Following instructions and it just said they need to be defragged for the program to work, did try it and the programs dont work so its now trying to defrag it

  12. #12
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    Raz0rEdge's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jul 17, 2009
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    11,778
    Rep Power
    22
    Quote Originally Posted by kaz cooke View Post
    Following instructions and it just said they need to be defragged for the program to work, did try it and the programs dont work so its now trying to defrag it
    You've totally piqued my curiosity on this now (sorry, that's the engineer in me). What old console is this and what program, if you can share.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


  13. #13
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    You've totally piqued my curiosity on this now (sorry, that's the engineer in me). What old console is this and what program, if you can share.
    lol you didn't think your get this question today.

    So its for a PS2, some of my games I have for the PS2 haven't been looked after, so will play up now and then. So I place one program on the USB thumb/flash drive which the PS2 recognises and brings up a menu, I have got the ISO/Program of my games from the CD's and have placed inside a folder the original program recognises. When i access the menu the games ISO/program appears but wont load and this is where the defrag comes in, I need to defrag the USB thumb/flash to make the games work.

    Im hoping this all works lol

  14. #14
    Need to defrag a USB drive
    Raz0rEdge's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jul 17, 2009
    Location
    MA
    Posts
    11,778
    Rep Power
    22
    Thank you for the info. One thing to keep in mind is that with Flash based storage devices (USB flash drives, SSDs, MMC, eMMC, etc.) there is a thing called wear leveling that ensures that the flash parts all wear equally and no part fails before others reducing the available storage of the drive. Flash has a limited lifetime as it relates to erase cycles.

    The cheapest USB flash drives will likely not have any wear leveling built in (and will rely on software to do that), but more expensive ones might. So again, if the PS2 is forcibly trying to read data in a contiguous manner, the wear leveling might not yield the result it wants.

    Defragging would have no effect on this and technically defragging is bad for flash drives.
    Last edited by Raz0rEdge; 01-11-2019 at 12:27 PM.
    --
    Regards
    ...Ashwin


  15. #15
    Need to defrag a USB drive

    Member Since
    Jun 04, 2012
    Location
    England
    Posts
    48
    Your Mac's Specs
    Mac book pro, 3.06Ghz intel core 2 due, 4gb memory,version 10.6.8 snow leopard
    Rep Power
    8
    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    Thank you for the info. One thing to keep in mind is that with Flash based storage devices (USB flash drives, SSDs, MMC, eMMC, etc.) there is a thing called wear leveling that ensures that the flash parts are wear equally and no part fails before others reducing the available storage of the drive. Flash has a limited lifetime as it relates to erase cycles.

    The cheapest USB flash drives will likely not have any wear leveling built in (and will rely on software to do that), but more expensive ones might. So again, if the PS2 is forcibly trying to read data in a contiguous manner, the wear leveling might not yield the result it wants.

    Defragging would have no effect on this and technically defragging is bad for flash drives.
    thanks Raz0rEdge thats one of the downsides to doing it this way but cheaper in the long run plus I dont have room for storing game discs lol

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. defrag hard drive
    By disturbed13 in forum Switcher Hangout
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 04-14-2014, 01:08 PM
  2. Drive Genius 3 and defrag issues
    By dauber in forum macOS - Apps and Games
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-11-2012, 03:40 PM
  3. defrag hard drive and finder problems
    By lindsaycb in forum Running Windows (or anything else) on your Mac
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-15-2005, 04:43 PM
  4. Safari/35 disk fragnments after Drive 10 defrag.
    By beaowolf in forum macOS - Operating System
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-10-2005, 11:58 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •