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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
    Hello fellow members,

    I would be grateful for any advice as to how to change my keys.

    For example,, I have a loop in C for several measures. Then I would like to change the key in a new measure.

    I split the track, click on the one I wish to change, go to the bottom of the Loop Browser where key change opportunities are offered...I have even taken the track I want to use up into a new area and the original key never changes.

    I lack the vocabulary of a musician as I am an amateur.

    My thanks in advance for any suggestions,


    J
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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Youíll have to forgive me Iím a pro tools guy and occasional logic user (when itís asked for) but as I recall it, you select the midi region and thereís an inspector window that has a transpose value. Thatís the value you want to change.

    If itís not midi and itís audio then youíre left to using pitch shifting which can have odd results (or cool ones depending on how you look at it )

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Thanks! I did look there and played with the transpose choices.

    However I am trying to take a loop that, let's say, starts in C, but then to change it as it goes along. such as C F G , etc. I am still looking at the bottom window and will continue poking around. It could be that although I am selecting the part of the track I wish to play with, I am missing something.Screenshot 2018-01-15 14.44.47.jpeg

    PS. I am using an Alesis Q49 piano keyboard.
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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    hmmmm, that doesn't look at all where I remember it. I think it's more specific like selecting the particular loop region, and in the inspector for that particular loop region there should be a transpose setting.

    What you have there, looks to me to be settings for the whole song. It's a bit foggy for me I worked a lot in logic a couple years ao, now mostly straight audio in PT. I just recall the inspector window that dealt more specifically with what you have selected.
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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    My thanks againScreenshot 2018-01-15 20.55.33.jpeg. I will poke around there a bit more and see what i can find.

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    If you click somewhere in the loop, it is cut short i believe? Then you can place different loops and cut them also, afaik i think... this is the cae in garageband at least

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    just to be sure, you are trying to transpose a midi region correct? Because if it's audio, you have to use pitch shifting.

    I'll see if I get a chance to open up logic today and see if I can find the panel (loop inspector I believe) that you're looking for.

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    ok. Now I remember. The place you showed, that's where you get the loops from and you can either take it as original key, or the song key (what you set the global key in)

    Now, you have to cut the loop (copy and paste a piece drag it to length that you want the transposed part to be) and over on the upper left (where mine is) in the inspector (make sure you have the loop -section- you wish to transpose selected, and hover your mouse over the word 'transpose' and use either the + or the - key to raise or lower the key of that particular loop region.

    I looked for a video that would better explain, this one is long winded, worth watching the whole thing to get pieces that may be helpful (a full view...) but the meat of this issue starts at 6:00 or so. Note, if you click on transpose it'll only give you octave options. hover your mouse over transpose (donít click it just hover on the word) + or - to give you incremental key changes He doesn't mention this tidbit...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CihZu_qXZjo
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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Did this work out?

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Hi and thanks so very much. I will give this a try as soon as I get back to this project with a desire for loops. I just purchased and set up a Shure interface between my Roland RS9 and my trusty Mac. Having a blast laying down tracks from the Roland.

    I will likely desire for a few loops within the next few days and will get back to you for sure. Meanwhile, onward for prosperity.

    All this is keeping this 79 year old village elder from going crazy or turning back to drink during these colder months although I imagine Wisconsin is "Down South," Lake Ontario like more chilly than our western shore of `Lake Michigan,

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Thank you Groovetube!

    That did it.

    Your instructions worked and the You Tube video topped it off.

    Merci and the time you spent in helping me is much appreciated.

    Very best wishes,


    John

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    Logic Pro X 10.3.3 : Changing Keys when using Loops
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    Great

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