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  1. #16
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    It is maddening how Apple continues "upgrading" their offerings and creating total confusion
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    I am running El Capitan 10.11.6. For years I was on Snow Leopard 10.6. I have had a myriad of problems since that upgrade

    poppi


    To save you all your recent problems and aggravations, do you have a clone or backup of your older SL OS X 10.6.8 where everything seems to have worked well for you, that you could use.

    Not much seems to be going well or working properly for you at this point so it's almost like flogging a dead horse to get it to work properly again.

    As I recall, apple says and provides a warning to make a backup before installing any major OS X upgrade as far as I can recall.

    But yeah, who reads or heeds those messages or warnings eh???


    PS: It's sounding like you might need some help at an Apple store or at least a call to their Customer Support Dep't. to get things sorted out.

    We're already at post #16 and the problems seem to be getting worse.

    Just saying…






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    Last edited by pm-r; 05-21-2018 at 11:49 AM.

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    @Patrick:

    It's commendable that you're trying to help member "poppi" but he has long ago been told that because he was so far behind in updating his system that he would run into problems in the future.

    PS: It's sounding like you might need some help at an Apple store or at least a call to their Customer Support Dep't. to get things sorted out.

    We're already at post #16 and the problems seem to be getting worse.
    Lots of luck with that. He's running vintage equipment and I suspect Apple will not offer any help. He might be better off looking for a Mac user group near his home and get some help from them. Either that, or as you seem to suggest above, go back to Snow Leopard and stick with that.

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    Remember when Photos was first released, there was an iPhoto update, that needed to be installed, prior to upgrading the Mac OS X version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    Remember when Photos was first released, there was an iPhoto update, that needed to be installed, prior to upgrading the Mac OS X version.


    As I recall, Photos.app was a complete disaster for many when it was first released and all kinds of various updates etc. seemed to be needed, at least for some that ventured into the upgrade path.

    At least apple finally seems to have a support article now, but not fully detailed it seems:
    Updating from iPhoto to Photos for macOS
    https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204655

    At least thy mention some details in their stupid small, light grey text:
    to migrate a library from iPhoto 7 or earlier, use Apple’s free iPhoto Library Upgrader tool(linked) to prepare your library first.
    I think the iPhoto Library Upgrader tool was a critical part that Bob mentioned.


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    It's commendable that you're trying to help member "poppi" but he has long ago been told that because he was so far behind in updating his system that he would run into problems in the future
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    I guess that's one of the reasons I always suggest to upgraders to make sure one has or keeps a working clone of the older OS.
    Just like apple's upgrade warning read me says!!!




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    It is iMovie 11 (v 9.0.4) and there don't appear to be any updates.
    Hi Poppi. iMovie 11 was developed to work with iPhoto, so will not link to Photos. My iMovie 11 does not show Photos as being a source of photographs, only Photo Booth.

    You can access your Photos library from within iMovie:

    In the left-hand sidebar of the iMovie window, select Photos Library.
    Click the pop-up menu at the top of the image browser to choose a content category—My Albums, Albums, Years, Collections, Moments, or Places.
    When you find the photo you’d like to use, drag it into the Timeline.
    That is an instruction for the latest version of iMovie, NOT for iMovie 11. As I'm sure you know, the photos button is on the right hand side of the divider, next to the Music button in iMovie 11.

    You could drag you photographs out of Photos onto the Desktop, and then drag them to your Project Timeline. However, there is a bug with iMovie 11 and El Capitan where photographs inserted into iMovie 11 Projects show up as a black screen.

    However, the following fix may work. With your photo on the Desktop, Right/Ctrl click on it and select Open With and choose MPEGStreamclip(if you have it. If you don't, you can download it from here: http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html).

    With the photo in MPEGStreamclip, go File Menu>Export to MPEG-4. This will give you an mp4 "movie" file which you can then import into iMovie 11 and it should then show in the Project. I don't have El Capitan so I can't confirm that it works, but in theory it should.

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    [QUOTE=pm-r;1792699]To save you all your recent problems and aggravations, do you have a clone or backup of your older SL OS X 10.6.8 where everything seems to have worked well for you, that you could use.

    Not much seems to be going well or working properly for you at this point so it's almost like flogging a dead horse to get it to work properly again.

    Thank you for that suggestion BUT I had my Mac in at an authorized repair shop to fix a kernel panic problem (which took 3 weeks but they did fix it and it has not recurred). At the same time they offered a free upgrade to El Capitan and, since many of you have been telling me for years that I should upgrade the O/S, I decided to do it. That made my original Mac Office package and my Photoshop Elements incompatible so I had to buy new versions of both those. I am concerned that if I go back to 10.6.8 it MIGHT solve this stupid iMovie problem but the new programs might not work and I will once again face the problems associated with the out of date O/S.

    I can't believe a corporation as high tech as Apple releases these upgrades which are so awful

    poppi

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    I can't believe a corporation as high tech as Apple releases these upgrades which are so awful
    C'mon poppi, you know very well that you have been procrastinating about upgrading for quite some time. Then you get a free upgrade and now want to blame the forums for advising you to upgrade and then blame Apple for their upgrades.

    We'll try to help you best we can but you need to face the fact that falling so far behind in everything is your own doing. You just received some good advice and a suggestion from member "MightyGem". Why don't you try what he offered?

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    poppi, look in your App Store, and look under the Purchases tab, is iPhoto listed there? Is iPhoto already installed? Did you look at my link in Post #15 to see if any of those iPhoto updates will help to make iPhoto work with iMovie?
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  10. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    C'mon poppi, you know very well that you have been procrastinating about upgrading for quite some time. Then you get a free upgrade and now want to blame the forums for advising you to upgrade and then blame Apple for their upgrades.

    We'll try to help you best we can but you need to face the fact that falling so far behind in everything is your own doing. You just received some good advice and a suggestion from member "MightyGem". Why don't you try what he offered?
    Hi chscag

    I am very sorry if I came across as an ingrate. Quite the contrary, I blame only myself for falling so far behind in the O/S. If that is the reason for all these problems I have only myself to blame. This forum has been an invaluable asset and has helped me solve many problems over the years and I am very grateful to all of you. Re the suggestion from MightyGem I tried that but it did not work (see my reply to his post which I will send after this).

    Thanks to you and all the forum members for trying so hard.

    poppi

  11. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by MightyGem View Post
    Hi Poppi. iMovie 11 was developed to work with iPhoto, so will not link to Photos. My iMovie 11 does not show Photos as being a source of photographs, only Photo Booth.


    That is an instruction for the latest version of iMovie, NOT for iMovie 11. As I'm sure you know, the photos button is on the right hand side of the divider, next to the Music button in iMovie 11.

    You could drag you photographs out of Photos onto the Desktop, and then drag them to your Project Timeline. However, there is a bug with iMovie 11 and El Capitan where photographs inserted into iMovie 11 Projects show up as a black screen.

    However, the following fix may work. With your photo on the Desktop, Right/Ctrl click on it and select Open With and choose MPEGStreamclip(if you have it. If you don't, you can download it from here: http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html).

    With the photo in MPEGStreamclip, go File Menu>Export to MPEG-4. This will give you an mp4 "movie" file which you can then import into iMovie 11 and it should then show in the Project. I don't have El Capitan so I can't confirm that it works, but in theory it should.
    Thanks for the clarifications and suggestions. I tried the work around with MPEGStreamclip, downloaded the application, loaded the photo in the screen, clicked make MP4. Started encoding for a few seconds and then message "Error: cannot write the movie file".

    Did I do something wrong or is this another fix that doesn't work with El Capitan?

    Thanks again

    poppi

    Update - On second look there IS a MP4 icon on the desktop but when I tried to drag it into iMovie project it did not "stick" just went back to the desktop

    poppi
    Last edited by poppi; 05-23-2018 at 11:40 AM.

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    On second look there IS a MP4 icon on the desktop but when I tried to drag it into iMovie project it did not "stick" just went back to the desktop
    Try using iMovie's Import function, File Menu>Import>Movies... then navigate to the Desktop and select the mp4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyGem View Post
    Try using iMovie's Import function, File Menu>Import>Movies... then navigate to the Desktop and select the mp4.
    Hi MightyGem

    I was excited to see this suggestion and gave it a try but to no avail. Here are more facts. I tried File> Import>Movies>desktop>add to existing event. The file (DSC00172.mp4) showed on the screen but was greyed out. Clicking it had no effect. More info - when I go to the desktop and double click the icon DSC00172.mp4 the MPEGStreamclip opens with the messge File open error: unrecognized file type. Clicked open anyway and get a message File open error: can't find video or audio tracks,

    ???

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    iPhoto is compatible with High Sierra, so it is definitely compatible with El Capitan.

    What version of iPhoto do you have?
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    I was excited to see this suggestion and gave it a try but to no avail. Here are more facts. I tried File> Import>Movies>desktop>add to existing event. The file (DSC00172.mp4) showed on the screen but was greyed out. Clicking it had no effect. More info - when I go to the desktop and double click the icon DSC00172.mp4 the MPEGStreamclip opens with the messge File open error: unrecognized file type. Clicked open anyway and get a message File open error: can't find video or audio tracks,
    Hmmm. OK, last suggestion, then I'm out of ideas. For the photo that you want to use, create a one photo Slideshow in iPhoto, and then export it, which will give you a movie file which hopefully you should be able to use.

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