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    Catalina Bugs
    So...a surprising number of folks have been brave and they have upgraded to Catalina right away.

    Here are the problems I've heard of so far:

    - One person had their Documents folder moved to Relocated Items

    - Folks have been reporting that Catalina won't play various less common video codecs anymore.

    - Some have been reporting that their hard drive icon won't display on their desktop even when it is checked in Finder Preferences.

    - One person with tons of carefully curated music downloads found that all of his album artwork and equalizer settings were gone.

    - Hazel doesn't seem to work with Catalina.

    - Older Adobe apps (Creative Suite) don't work with Catalina, and even a couple of the latest ones aren't working.

    - Microsoft Word crashes.

    - Adobe Acrobat Pro won't run.

    More as it comes in.
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    Well I can count myself as lucky - was goin' to wait a week but wife was at an evening meeting last night w/ me at home - decided to upgrade my MBPro to Catalina (could always go back w/ a CCC HD BU) - went fine except for an issue trying to get Keychain to sync w/ iCloud (solved) - many of the issues above do not apply to me and a handful mentioned did not occur - now checking 'Music' some of my album art disappeared, so will try to add that soon - otherwise nothing drastic happened, BUT I'm about to go out of town and will wait a week before considering upgrading my other two Macs! Dave
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    The relocated items folder is a folder that Catalina creates and then seemingly without any reason tosses various other folders into it and places that on the desktop. Even more troublesome is that the relocated folder is an alias and for some users can not be deleted.

    I have Catalina installed to an external SSD and not my working iMac (thank goodness). I beta tested it from there and now the final version is likewise installed to the external bootable SSD. And that's where it's going to stay until Apple gets the glitches cleared up. I'm also waiting on an update to a 32 bit app that I use.

    As far as Word is concerned (mentioned by Randy above), it works okay for me. However, I'm using Word from the latest Office 365 release.

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    So...a surprising number of folks have been brave and they have upgraded to Catalina right away.

    Here are the problems I've heard of so far: ... ... ...

    If you don't mind, I think I'm just going to skip and ignore and bypass anything to do with any user's problems to do with macOS Catalina 10.15.x.

    It seems that there are a lot more problems associated with the OS X "upgrade" than those listed here.

    I'm still trying to figure out what some of the "features" of the latest macOS are that a user could actually benefit from are and that a user can use.

    Anyway, I'm glad to read that some users are happy and find the latest macOS working well for their use.



    - Patrick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post
    So...a surprising number of folks have been brave and they have upgraded to Catalina right away.

    Here are the problems I've heard of so far:

    - One person had their Documents folder moved to Relocated Items

    - Folks have been reporting that Catalina won't play various less common video codecs anymore.

    - Some have been reporting that their hard drive icon won't display on their desktop even when it is checked in Finder Preferences.

    - One person with tons of carefully curated music downloads found that all of his album artwork and equalizer settings were gone.

    - Hazel doesn't seem to work with Catalina.

    - Older Adobe apps (Creative Suite) don't work with Catalina, and even a couple of the latest ones aren't working.

    - Microsoft Word crashes.

    - Adobe Acrobat Pro won't run.

    More as it comes in.
    Hmm, according to this link that I have provided previously: Application Compatibility Table — RoaringApps, Hazel does work with Catalina.

    Also, no version of Adobe Acrobat Pro has been declared compatible.
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    Problems I have experienced since upgrading to Catalina: deleted emails in Mail will reappear in the inbox when Mail is relaunched; my external display's screen went black; there is a lag when typing & spacing is erratic. Clearly I erred in upgrading to Catalina so early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestone33 View Post
    Hmm, according to this link that I have provided previously: Application Compatibility Table — RoaringApps, Hazel does work with Catalina.

    [Rolling On The Floor Laughing]

    Well, that will be news to all of the Hazel users that I've heard from (I have a lot of them in my user group), and....

    to the NoodleSoft folks (who make Hazel) themselves:

    Noodlesoft Forums • View topic - MacOS Cataline crashing

    A Catalina compatible version of Hazel isn't even out of beta yet.

    RoaringApps is only as good as the users who post there, I'm sorry to say. It's not authoritative, though it may sometimes be helpful.
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    RadDave said:

    now checking 'Music' some of my album art disappeared, so will try to add that soon
    Dave, this Link might help you; can't promise, of course. Kirkville - Where the Catalina Music App Stores Album Artwork

    Ian
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post
    RadDave said:

    Dave, this Link might help you; can't promise, of course. Kirkville - Where the Catalina Music App Stores Album Artwork
    Thanks Ian - had less than a dozen albums w/o cover art - the 'Get Album Artwork' in the Music App filled in most of them; I had to download about 4 images and manually add the artwork - all is fine at the moment. Dave
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    As usual I'll wait till the bugs have been sorted. And commiserations to poor Hazel!
    Sue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post

    RoaringApps is only as good as the users who post there, I'm sorry to say. It's not authoritative, though it may sometimes be helpful.
    Yes, although a decent resource, it is not always accurate, nor up to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badshoehabit View Post
    As usual I'll wait till the bugs have been sorted. And commiserations to poor Hazel!
    Good idea, as others and I have also pointed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what some of the "features" of the latest macOS are that a user could actually benefit from are and that a user can use.
    - Patrick
    I'm in he same boat.
    The only reason I upgraded thed Macs in the family to even ElCapitan is because some webinar software we need to use was no longer supported on SnowLeopard.
    And of course new Macs typically won't run on older OSs than what they came with.
    Security I find is less of an issue for us in practice.

    I also don't like the push to more and more cloud services and those being forced down ones throat.
    Not only is privacy more and more out the window, one also depends on some outside support which really has no stake in keeping ones data safe and secure.

    But each to his own......

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    Quote Originally Posted by krs View Post
    I'm in he same boat.
    The only reason I upgraded thed Macs in the family to even ElCapitan is because some webinar software we need to use was no longer supported on SnowLeopard.
    And of course new Macs typically won't run on older OSs than what they came with.
    Security I find is less of an issue for us in practice.

    I also don't like the push to more and more cloud services and those being forced down ones throat.
    Not only is privacy more and more out the window, one also depends on some outside support which really has no stake in keeping ones data safe and secure.

    But each to his own......
    Very good points. In actuality, except for needed security updates from Apple, and software compatibility (including security updates from some of those third party companies), I have not seen anything that I must have in recent versions of the Mac OS. And kudos to your accurate, definitive statement about cloud services. I do not use ANY of them at all. In fact, I don't even use services like Facebook, Twitter, etc. As you stated, privacy is a definite concern with such services (and others).

    I have never understood why most folks rush when a new version of the Mac OS arrives. It has been made abundantly clear that the initial version is full of bugs, and third party software compatibility is a definite consideration.

    But, as you say, to each his/her own.
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    Personally always do a format and clean install of each new operating system and have experienced solid, reliable OS's from El Capitan onwards This upgrade after upgrade process is a road to trouble.

    Only thing I had to do was log into Apple ID and use password and all is well.
    Using OS X.7 or later make a bootable USB thumb drive before running Installer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryb2448 View Post
    Personally always do a format and clean install of each new operating system and have experienced solid, reliable OS's from El Capitan onwards This upgrade after upgrade process is a road to trouble.

    Only thing I had to do was log into Apple ID and use password and all is well.
    +1000! Could not agree more! I always do a clean, fresh, "virgin" installation of a new Mac OS (and sometimes versions within the same one), and the do a migrate/copy all the needed files, folders, settings, from a just completed SuperDuper! backup.
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