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    @krs said:
    I also don't like the push to more and more cloud services and those being forced down ones throat.
    Not only is privacy more and more out the window, one also depends on some outside support which really has no stake in keeping ones data safe and secure.
    The future of computing is ubiquity. Ubiquity is the presence of the net services everywhere. With 5G looming to increase WiFi speeds dramatically, the move to more and more online, cloud, call it what you will, services will accelerate. The idea is to have full availablity to all your potential computing needs from any device at any place and any time. So your smartphone, with 5G and cloud services, will be able to do what your portable computer can do. Maybe not the same way, or at the same speed, but it can do it. On the road, need to download a couple of TBytes of data? Done. Away from home, need to bring up that photo album to get a picture? Done. Eventually the portable may be replaced by a tablet and keyboard. Or a tablet and virtual keyboard. Or tablet and voice commands.

    It's a bit like when cars moved to keyless entry. Why do that? Keys are perfectly fine, do the job, been there for decades. But today, that key fob does so much more--not just unlock doors, but authorize the ignition to start the car, provide security if the car is stolen, identify who is driving so that seats/steering wheel/computer driving profile/who knows what else can be personalized. Did keys work? Sure, but the fobs do so much more. And now most car manufacturers have a smartphone app to control the car from remotely. Need the door unlocked back where you parked it so you son can retrieve a beach ball? Sure, then lock it up again once he leaves. Forget to lock your car in the garage at the airport? Lock it from your destination. Tesla is even working on a self-parking and self-retrieval service that you can use the phone to send your car to a parking spot or have it come to where you are in a parking lot without you having to walk to the vehicle. The possibilities life-without-keys are endless.

    Does having the app on the MBP work? Sure, but in the future the app needs to be where I am, regardless of where my computer may be. And that ubiquity requires cloud.

    It's the future. Get ready for it.
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    Good summary Jake. I've already nick-named our new Honda CRV, "The Nanny Car".

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    Charlie, earlier this year I rented a Volvo XC90 while my wife and I and another couple were touring England together. That car had every bell and whistle possible on it. The cruise control combined with the radar and camera system so seamlessly that I would engage cruise control and just sit back. It held to the center of the lane, kept a good distance from the vehicle in front of me, slowed down all the way to stop, then moved forward again when the line moved. Add in the heads up display on the windscreen and the GPS navigation and driving was pretty much done by the car. Add 5G speeds and a bit more auto driving and that would be the easiest car to drive ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    The future of computing is ubiquity.......
    Although I agree with your comments, not that I have to buy into that type of future, I had to laugh that you would chose "keyless entry" as an example to illustrate your point.
    It's a bit like when cars moved to keyless entry. Why do that? Keys are perfectly fine, do the job, been there for decades. But today, that key fob does so much more--not just unlock doors, but authorize the ignition to start the car, provide security if the car is stolen, identify who is driving so that seats/steering wheel/computer driving profile/who knows what else can be personalized. Did keys work? Sure, but the fobs do so much more.
    I don't know about your neck of the woods, but I read about high-end cars being stolen out of people's driveways every week or so because the keyless entry allows thieves to get into the car in less than a minute and drive it away.

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    Sure, for older tech. But more modern security shuts down the car if the fob is outside range. The thief can start the car, maybe, and jump the ignition to get it running, but if the fob isn't close to the car, the computer will shut it down. And that is what is coming. The first generation key fobs don't have the sophistication.
    Jake

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    I'll stick with the more secure ways I am doing things now. When the time comes that I'll be forced to switch, I suspect all the security concerns I (and others) have will be alleviated.
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    Unfortunately, this trend to more and more ubiquity can be detrimental. It's similar to other technology "advancements", and what they led to. Two obvious examples:

    1. The calculator. I used to teach Mathematics courses on a part-time basis at various colleges, and the reliance by students on calculators kept getting worse and worse. It got to the point where students could not figure out the following simple problem without a calculator:

    "If a shirt normally sells for $20, and there is a 10% off sale, excluding taxes, what will the shirt cost?"

    It was amazing to see how deficient students were in trying to do such a simple problem without a calculator! And god forbid if it was slightly more complicated, with the problem being "If a shirt normally sells for $25, and there is a 10% off sale, excluding taxes, what will the shirt cost?". Another example: I was helping a student with a problem, and it got to a point where it was necessary to compute 32 - 17. I asked the student what is that. She first said "20", and I said no. Then she said 13, and I said no. She then said 18, and I said no. So I asked her what is the issue? She said she uses her calculator for something like that!

    I thought to myself that these are (potentially) the future leaders of our country! I remember a saying I heard: The best calculator is your brain. It never runs out of batteries. Definitely true.

    I did, though, have one student who offered some hope. I said to the class, what do you do if you are trying to buy a car, and the salesman states a price. If you need to do some further calculations, what happens if your calculator has run out of battery power? One of my students did say that she would take out some paper and pencil to try and work it out. Unfortunately, such a person was definitely in the minority.

    2. Facebook, Twitter, etc. All of these "services" have resulted in less and less human interaction. Really, really sad. I myself need such interactions, and thus avoid using such services. Might be old school, but that's fine with me.

    By the way, in doing a google search of "ubiquity", one of the definitions is:

    "the fact of appearing everywhere or of being very common."
    "the ubiquity of mobile phones means you don't really need a watch"

    Well, that business about the watch is another example. I like to do some gambling at casinos, and do not like to carry my cell phone inside (might lose it, plus most of the time can't get reception). Well, casinos do not have any clocks, so how would one know what time it is? Well, I still wear a watch, and that works well.

    I understand that ubiquity for computers is coming, but I truly wonder what it will do.
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    This thread has drifted way off topic. I started a thread at Shweb's Lounge on the topic. Let's move there and leave this for Catalina Bugs.
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadDave View Post
    Well I can count myself as lucky - was goin' to wait a week but wife was at an evening meeting last night w/ me at home - decided to upgrade my MBPro to Catalina (could always go back w/ a CCC HD BU) - went fine except for an issue trying to get Keychain to sync w/ iCloud (solved) - many of the issues above do not apply to me and a handful mentioned did not occur - now checking 'Music' some of my album art disappeared, so will try to add that soon - otherwise nothing drastic happened, BUT I'm about to go out of town and will wait a week before considering upgrading my other two Macs! Dave
    All of my Album Art disappeared but all of the music is still there. Get Album Artwork has returned it all, glad I have an unlimited download internet plan.

    Adobe Acrobat Pro not only doesn't work its GONE. All my PDF's are now opening in Preview which is fine really but I didn't see any warnings about Acrobat being incompatible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post
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    Dave, this Link might help you; can't promise, of course. Kirkville - Where the Catalina Music App Stores Album Artwork

    Ian
    Thanks Ian, that is a handy link. I had looked in the iTunes folder for Album Artwork and noted it was there but I still had no artwork in the Music app. So I used the Get Album Artwork command and now it is all as before. Using the info in your link I compared the two and finding they were the same size have trashed (But not emptied) the iTunes version with no apparent effects. Looks like its safe to just delete it unless anyone is considering going back to Mojave.

    As for Adobe Acrobat Pro mentioned by Randy, my copy is gone. Checking up on this with Adobe Document Cloud Why don't my Adobe apps work in macOS Catalina 10.15? I find that only Acrobat pro DC which is a subscription based app and not yet fully tested with Catalina is the current replacement. I know that my copt of Acrobat Pro was 64bit
    but the installation of Catalina somehow removed it.
    Preview is fine anyway and for more advanced stuff I'm using PDF Reader Pro - Lite Edition by PDF Technologies Inc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    Adobe Acrobat Pro not only doesn't work its GONE. All my PDF's are now opening in Preview which is fine really but I didn't see any warnings about Acrobat being incompatible.
    Thanks for that info, Rod. I am going to store my important PDFs on one of my external SSDs.

    Is it possible that the reason it does not work is that it is not yet compatible with Catalina? Maybe Adobe will offer an update soon.

    I am using Adobe Acrobat Pro X. I suspect it will not be updated, although it has worked with Sierra, High Sierra, and Mojave. Can anyone suggest a good alternative?
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    Issues with Mail in Catalina

    Just saw this:

    Beware Mail Data Loss in Catalina - TidBITS

    I have not upgraded yet, and I use Thunderbird. But this is troublesome for Mail users.

    Note the last paragraph in that link:

    "To reiterate our advice in “macOS 10.15 Catalina Ships, Upgrade with Caution” (7 October 2019), hold off on upgrading to Catalina for a while, particularly if you use Mail.

    Sane advice, no matter what software one uses!
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