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    Are you sure you entered the command correctly?
    Yes, copy and paste. Get the Password prompt, enter password, Return, and then get "listlocalsnapshots: Unrecognized verb"

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    Don't know what to tell you? The command works perfectly for me and many others including Rod who used it.

    According to your profile, the latest macOS version you're using is 10.10.5. If that's correct, it could be the reason the command won't work for you?

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    Needless to say this is not actually helping me much.
    Today she is down to 82Gb and I am completely stumped as to why her documents folder is so large.

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    @MightyGem

    Instead of the sudo prefix Terminal, try this - no password needed:

    Open Terminal and type - tmutil listlocalsnapshots /

    You can copy/paste the above and hit return. No PW.

    The list appears.

    Both versions, chscag's and this, work on my Mac. The only reason I use the one I've posted in preference, is that I am scared of Terminal and even more so of any "sudo" command. I guess I'm a coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    Needless to say this is not actually helping me much.
    Today she is down to 82Gb and I am completely stumped as to why her documents folder is so large.

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    That sure is a lot of documents? Seems like almost 300GB of documents alone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post
    @MightyGem

    Instead of the sudo prefix Terminal, try this - no password needed:

    Open Terminal and type - tmutil listlocalsnapshots /

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    Nope. Still tells me that listlocalsnapshot is an unrecognised verb.

    PS. My profile is out of date. I'm using 10.12.6

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    listlocalsnapshots is plural. You said. "Still tells me that listlocalsnapshot is an unrecognised verb." If that is what actually came back, you left off the "s" at the end.
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    Hmmm, didn't listlocalsnapshots first appear in 10.13? That might explain why it's not available in 10.12.

    Let me do some digging, I seem to recall an issue in 10.12 with a never ending growing system file. I'll have to search.
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    Hmmm, didn't listlocalsnapshots first appear in 10.13? That might explain why it's not available in 10.12.
    I believe that's correct and would explain why it doesn't work for him. Prior to High Sierra, Time Machine snapshots could be suppressed, but with the advent of APFS the snapshots are automatic and it does not matter if the Time Machine drive is attached or not.

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    Well that doesnít seem to be my wifeís problem. I guess Iíll download Daisy Disk and do a bit of digging. As usual there are two large areas of storage. Music and Photos. So the usual solution apart from thinning is to move these libraries on to an external storage device complicating backups and access with a portable device. The alternative is to try to find all the data that the device classifies as documents. The documents folder itself is only 12.5Gb yet the Apple menu (About This Mac) states there are 241Gb of files classified as documents on the device.


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    So I downloaded Daisy Disk and found the below results:
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    So she has 370Gb of Hidden Space of which 166.4Gb is Free or Purgeable.
    This phenomenon is apparently a characteristic of APFS but my question is what to do about it? Do we just ignore it and allow the system to use this space as it sees fit while the Apple menu continues to say the is only 81Gb of storage left or is there a way to free it up so that indexing can see it?
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    Not an APFS characteristic, I don't have that issue and I'm on Mojave with APFS. On my system Daisy Disk reports that the Hidden space is mostly Time Machine temporary files (the snapshots) and will be purged at the next TM backup. Total space is about 64GB, all but 1-2 are purgeable. TM runs twice a day on my system, so it will be purged at midnight tonight. If it's the same on that machine, the snapshots must be growing in number and maybe in size. If you open, on her machine, terminal and then "man tmutil" the list of actions should show listlocalsnapshots as one option. Is that there, on her machine? It won't be on yours, if you are running 10.12.z because it did not appear until 10.13.
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    I'm also on Mojave. I have already posted the results of a terminal search for snapshots. She only has 4 including CCC so it's unlikely they would take up 360Gb. I'm doing a fresh TM backup now so that should remove an TM Snapshots but I noticed when running Disk Utikity it checks 4 system snapshots for what it's worth. Now I'm wondering about duplication but honestly I'm grasping at straws here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    listlocalsnapshots is plural. You said. "Still tells me that listlocalsnapshot is an unrecognised verb." If that is what actually came back, you left off the "s" at the end.
    Sorry, my typo. I left the "s" off in the reply, but not in Terminal.

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    For those who replied to the subject of this post (as opposed to the issue of the localsnapshots on Terminal) I checked the new TM backup I did for my wife's MBP and noted it was 160Gb smaller than the displayed storage in DU and under the Storage tab in the Apple Menu. Currently I'm doing a full restore from the TM Backup hoping that will clear up the Hidden and Free/Purgeable space.
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