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  1. #16
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    All of them are 0.x, except for Activity Monitor which is 5.0 and FireFox which is 4.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by billwill View Post
    All of them are 0.x, except for Activity Monitor which is 5.0 and FireFox which is 4.4
    Technically speaking (for this test)...you weren't supposed to launch any apps other than Activity Monitor (FireFox). But that doesn't should too bad.

    As harryb2448 already suggested...try uninstalling those two anti-virus apps...then see how the "beachball" situation plays out.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    I'll do that, Nick. Thanks to you and Harryb2448. MacScan has NEVER found anything and Sophos has found maybe 3 or 4 things in the last year, all of which were cookie trackers. I'll delete 'em both using their Uninstallers. Thanks and have a great weekend.

    Bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by billwill View Post
    I'll do that, Nick. Thanks to you and Harryb2448. MacScan has NEVER found anything and Sophos has found maybe 3 or 4 things in the last year, all of which were cookie trackers. I'll delete 'em both using their Uninstallers. Thanks and have a great weekend.
    You are very welcome Bill.

    Please let us know if things seem better after uninstalling.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    WOW! I uninstalled MacScan 2 and Sophos last night, then rebooted and let it sit all night in standby. I've been on it for the last 4 hours and haven't seen the beachball ONCE!!!

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU both for your kindness and great advice. Have a great weekend!

    Bill
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    Glad you got that sorted out.

    For the benefit of future readers of this thread here's a thought. If at some point you decide that you must run antivirus software pick one of them. Do not have two installed at the same time since they will usually both launch in the background, both eat system resources (slow down the system) and often present contradictory results.

    I suppose the same could be said for almost any utility that runs in the background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billwill View Post
    WOW! I uninstalled MacScan 2 and Sophos last night, then rebooted and let it sit all night in standby. I've been on it for the last 4 hours and haven't seen the beachball ONCE!!!

    Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU both for your kindness and great advice. Have a great weekend!
    That sounds awesome Bill!!! It's amazing sometimes how much anti-virus programs can "bog-down" a computer.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    Is there a anti-virus program for the Mac that you would recommend? One that doesn't/wouldn't run in the background? Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billwill View Post
    Is there a anti-virus program for the Mac that you would recommend?
    Yes...none! From what I hear from experts...there are no Macintosh virus's. So you would be installing anti-virus software to scan for what doesn't exist.

    But to answer your question...I have heard good things about Sophos. But why install it...if the computer is now running great...and you really don't need it??

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    Quote Originally Posted by billwill View Post
    Is there a anti-virus program for the Mac that you would recommend?
    Common sense.

    Honestly, although there will be a day when Macs become susceptible to viruses on a regular basis, that day has yet to come. In the mean time, preoccupy yourself with learning how to avoid anything that might be shady. Stay away from questionable content, don't open anything unless you trust the source, etc.
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    Thanks again. I'll stay away from all the anti-this and anti-that programs. They were the main impetus in me leaving WinDoze and going to Macs about 5 years ago. It seemed like every time I logged on, I had to update or upgrade something, always with a fee. I'm liberated!

    I really appreciate all the help you guys have given me. I still consider myself a newbie. It's nice to have all your experience and knowledge available. Have a great weekend.
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    FWIW I have 10.6.8 and I run Sophos because I have heard there ARE viruses out there. Its operation is completely transparent and the only time I ever saw the timer was when my HD was on the way out.

    I haven't used MacScan because friends here have used it and experienced exactly the problems this user experienced. I believe the problem is twofold - MacScan isn't a good product, and running two anti-virus packages is ALWAYS a bad idea (on Mac and on Windows). The anti-virus product developers tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterbj7 View Post
    FWIW I have 10.6.8 and I run Sophos because I have heard there ARE viruses out there.
    BELIEVE ME...if there were Mac viruses out there...we would know about it! Our membership is too large...and world-wide...for viruses on a Mac to be unknown to the Mac-Forums Community.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    Well, for me there's no overhead so I'll carry on using it. If I start to encounter problems I'll reconsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterbj7 View Post
    Well, for me there's no overhead so I'll carry on using it. If I start to encounter problems I'll reconsider.
    Hey...if you're not experiencing any performance issues...no problem.

    But as you can see in this thread..."billwill" seems to have completely eliminated the performance issues on his computer after uninstalling the anti-virus apps he had. There were two of them...so maybe together they were causing some real issues.

    - Nick
    - Too many "beachballs", read this: Beachballs
    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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