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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWebb View Post
    It seems to me from the above that in Photos the images have to be imported from the external drive in order to open them in Photos. It would be preferable for me if I could just select the files I want to work on from my external drive - i.e. File - Open - Select image from external drive to open.
    You don't have to actually store the files in Photos, you can leave them on the drive, just import them into Photos to get to the tools. As I said, as long as when you open Photos the drive is attached, it won't complain.

    From your description, however, you don't want an organizer, you just want a set of tools to manipulate the images. Look for something from Adobe for that--Photoshop, Lightroom, whatever. Photos is not that kind of software. It's more of an organizer with tools than a tools-only image editor.
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    It would be preferable for me if I could just select the files I want to work on from my external drive - i.e. File - Open - Select image from external drive to open.
    Here's a work-around that's worth a try. I tried it with a single Photo on an external drive and it works. Try it and see if you like it. This procedure only needs to be done once and really is best used if Photos is likely to be your main editor.

    1. Right click a photo and select Open With
    2. Scroll down to Photos and select that as the App of choice. you may have to choose "There" and change the dialog box from Recommended Apps to All Apps before you can choose Photos. You can also choose to make that the default app for all photos of that type.

    As I mentioned this is a bit of a kludge but if you like other aspects of using Photos this is workable.
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    It would be preferable for me if I could just select the files I want to work on from my external drive
    Hi Mark

    If you want to avoid Apple's Photos app completely, you can use another Photo Editor to do your editing. Which can be done remotely, ie, from your EHD if necessary.

    I must state here that I have no investment or financial interest in any Editor; but through my personal research and experience, I have found "Affinity photo app" to be very good. Close to Photoshop in facilities at a fraction of the price.

    You might like to look at their website: Affinity Photo - Professional image editing software for desktop and iPad

    Your choice, of course. There are other good editors out there as well.

    Ian
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkWebb View Post
    It seems to me from the above that in Photos the images have to be imported from the external drive in order to open them in Photos. It would be preferable for me if I could just select the files I want to work on from my external drive - i.e. File - Open - Select image from external drive to open.
    That's because Photos is trying to be so much more than just a photo editing application; just as iTunes/Music is trying to be much more than just a music player application. Apple wants you to forget all about files and how they are organized and leave all that to them. As @chscag said, some people like it and some people hate it. I disliked it when it came to photos, but for music it suits me well.

    If all you want is photo editing software, then look elsewhere. It sounds like your needs in that area are modest. There are many options out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post
    Hi Mark

    If you want to avoid Apple's Photos app completely, you can use another Photo Editor to do your editing. Which can be done remotely, ie, from your EHD if necessary.

    I must state here that I have no investment or financial interest in any Editor; but through my personal research and experience, I have found "Affinity photo app" to be very good. Close to Photoshop in facilities at a fraction of the price.

    You might like to look at their website: Affinity Photo - Professional image editing software for desktop and iPad

    Your choice, of course. There are other good editors out there as well.

    Ian
    Thank you very much Ian, this looks interesting.

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    many thanks to all for your input. All most helpful

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Photos or iPhoto: You either like them or hate them. Over the years we have seen numerous complaints about the way Apple handles photos. Some folks would rather do all the sorting and folder creation themselves whereas others just let Apple do it for them.

    The same complaints can be heard about iTunes and the way it handles music.
    My wife takes most of the pix. I download them from her iPhone/iPad to Photos then move them to my Pictures folder and sort them all there. I have to say that we don't have as many as some of you guys but that works for me/us.

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    My experience may be relevant to Mark's original post about file management.

    Me: heavy Photoshop user, file/folder hierarchy similar to OP's, ie: desktop/year/month/event.

    Setup: was a 2009 Mac Pro running CS5 Photoshop/Bridge. Edited & posted 1000's of nature shots (sold some too).

    By the time I upgraded that old machine to Yosemite both PS and Bridge were showing their age. Photoshop made what I presume to be deprecated system calls, some commands, eg, anything to do with image resizing would take 2-3 seconds to begin executing. When I went to High Sierra, the last OS the machine would do, Bridge also was crashing and having problems.

    Finally decided that a new Mini, maxed out, could replace the Mac Pro, and that Photoshop Elements would serve my editing needs. How did that work out?

    PS Elements: OK but clunky (can't create kb shortcuts, constantly have to switch between dummy and expert modes, I could go on) but powerful enough (masks, layers, blend modes, etc) for my editing needs. The Mini supports two hi-res 16X10 monitors, has just enough ports, and with Turbo is pretty fast, so that's OK. However, I began to regret the move for the same reasons raised by Mark: file management.

    First I looked at Apple's Photos. OMG! Albums, folders, subalbums, categories, memories, tons of features I neither wanted nor understood, even with a new book (Mojave: The Missing Manual). Import? Why? What happened to my file structure? Where is everything? Is it copying files, moving them or creating aliases? Maybe the first because it was sucking up memory and I have 250 gigs of images (backed up on a separate drive and also via Time Machine).

    Then I tried the app that comes with Elements: Organizer. Again got a book (Elements for Dummies) and gave it a fair trial. Again hated it -- messy, complicated, and it didn't do what I wanted, which was, specifically:

    - see all my folders in their actual hierarchy
    - review the images in those files at any size I choose
    - rename a file and quickly select the next one
    - drag and drop files into different folders
    - select one or more files and open them in the editor with a keystroke

    Nothing more nor less. What does that? Why Bridge, of course. Fortunately I was able to re-install Bridge off my old CS5 disk* and now it's running OK under Mojave.

    So I'm a happy camper except I'm $2K poorer than if I'd just stayed with my old Mac Pro, an early OS, and CS5 Photoshop+Bridge). Truth is, I never needed to upgrade the OS past Snow Leopard in the first place.

    Final note: I think Bridge is on shaky legs and may not survive a new OS. If anyone knows of a simple photo-file management system that accomplishes the above five indicated tasks without "importing" or messing with my files, I'd like to know what it is. In other words, I want another Adobe Bridge.

    * Had to add an Apple optical drive for that, but that's OK -- I still rip CD's from time to time and it's real cute, sitting there with a wee Passport drive on the Mini...

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    I think Bridge is on shaky legs and may not survive a new OS.
    I have Adobe Bridge 2020 on my MBP in Catalina and it works just fine. It is part of Creative Cloud.
    Jake

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    @IgorP, please look at Affinity, Affinity - Professional creative software, the professional apps are great, and inexpensive.
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    Big +1 for Affinity software.

    Ian
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