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  1. #16
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    Yes it is the best of the free Office packages in my opinion. It may just be able to cope with the data volume enabling Applet to break up the document.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Regarding Malwarebytes. Why only run Malwarebytes every 6 months? If there was something problematic on your computer that Malwarebytes could take care of...if you only run Malwarebytes once every 6 months...you could go almost 6 month with a potential issue. If someone has Malwarebytes installed...I would run it much more frequently than every 6 months.

    As far as maintenance...only app I really use is Onyx.

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    l thought maintenance or antivirus not necessary for mac? Onyx just a matter of pressing a button and let it do its work? l don't want any risk to damaging anything. since l got my mac in 2012 l have not done any maintenance, and my mbpr is working almost as new, taking ~20s to start up vs ~14s when new and running 2 of my trading apps simultaneously is problem free.

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    thanks for suggestion Rod, l will give it a try. someone else suggested onenote, how would that compare? would that allow me to open up this open office word document? remember l use it just for notes and inserting some jpgs. though it is a large word document with some jpgs, currently ~100MB, can easily reach > 5x the size

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    I don't know if OneNote would be able to open and edit that document but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try. Just make sure before you use any different method of accessing the document that you first make a backup of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post
    I concur. In my experience, not only does FreeOffice offer a better word processor than the OpenOffice siblings (LibreOffice, Apache OpenOffice and NeoOffice), but it's translators are far superior. It may have a much easier time opening that file than one of the OpenOffice siblings.
    (I'd give Rod reputation points for this, but for some reason the site won't let me.)

    Oh, and if you are interested in doing some routine maintenence on your Mac, have a look at:

    Macintosh Routine Maintenence
    OS X Maintenance And Troubleshooting

    Though, at this point, if you have a very recent version of the Mac OS, there isn't much left that you need to do.

    Lastly, if you are in a pinch, you can download this free text editor:

    Tex-Edit Plus (free)
    Trans-Tex Software

    and use it to open the file, which it will almost certainly do, but almost all of the formatting will be lost. But that's better than losing the entire file completely.
    Randy, l downloaded freeoffice and l will only be using it for the word processor. it looks much nicer and neater. thing is l tried to open the openoffice file, and it says it can't open as it is pw protected so l assume that file is a no no, though l could try and open it with a PC using word in the library, but assume it might say same thing? l do have an older version of the text document, ~week of missing text and ~4 pics which does open, though with a pw only, so I guess just copy and paste it's entry into freeoffice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applet View Post
    ...l tried to open the openoffice file, and it says it can't open as it is pw protected...
    Give this a try...

    Download:

    Tex-Edit Plus (free)
    Trans-Tex Software

    which is a text editor (not a word processor.) See if it can open the file. It may be able to open the file, minus most formatting, and allow you to copy and paste the text out of the file into a word processor.

    It's a long shot. I won't work if the file is legitimately password protected. But it's free, quick and easy, so it's worth a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post
    Give this a try...

    Download:

    Tex-Edit Plus (free)
    Trans-Tex Software

    which is a text editor (not a word processor.) See if it can open the file. It may be able to open the file, minus most formatting, and allow you to copy and paste the text out of the file into a word processor.

    It's a long shot. I won't work if the file is legitimately password protected. But it's free, quick and easy, so it's worth a shot.
    Thanks for suggestion Randy. I downloaded it, and selected open, but the file was not selectable under any 'Enable' drop down menu, other than 'all documents' so chose this, and it would open the file, except only garbage shows up, please check attachment. so Text-Edit wont work? whats your opinion in just writing diary in my yahoo email? as that has lots of space and allows you to just drag jpgs to the 'email'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applet View Post
    ...it would open the file, except only garbage shows up,...
    So here's the thing. Tex-Edit Plus will open any file, and if there is any text whatsoever in the file, Tex-Edit Plus will show it. Since TEP didn't find any text in that document, then the document is almost certainly encrypted. Nothing will open it other than the program used to encrypt it, along with the password used to encrypt it originally.

    Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy B. Singer View Post
    So here's the thing. Tex-Edit Plus will open any file, and if there is any text whatsoever in the file, Tex-Edit Plus will show it. Since TEP didn't find any text in that document, then the document is almost certainly encrypted. Nothing will open it other than the program used to encrypt it, along with the password used to encrypt it originally.

    Sorry.
    Update, l copied most of an older copy of the open office 'diary' which is 87.7MB to Textmaker Free, and
    1. the file size is 151MB
    2. when l try to search for phrases that are in the text, often it can't is there a setting that i'm missing?
    3. in open office, when l close the file after saving, and reopen it, it opens up where l left off ,Textmaker Free opens it at the start, page 1 of 100s . is there a setting that i'm missing? openoffice use to be like that as well until l updated

    so l may continue to use open office for my diary, but ensure it doesn't exceed 87MB? l also in process of copy and pasting pages to google documents. for this the size of document shouldn't matter right?
    lastly would going to an Apple shop an using a new 'powerful' mac with openoffice be more capable than my 2012 mbpr in opening this 100.4MB password protected open office file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applet View Post
    so l may continue to use open office for my diary, but ensure it doesn't exceed 87MB?
    I think we already covered this earlier in the thread. Super large files didn't seem to be a good thing with Open Office. It seemed like keeping the file size to the 10-15MB area might be better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Applet View Post
    lastly would going to an Apple shop an using a new 'powerful' mac with Open Office be more capable than my 2012 mbpr in opening this 100.4MB password protected open office file?
    The only reason I can think of where this might help is if the 100.4MB file is "openable" at all...but just needs a lot of time/CPU power. But since the file is so large...running Open Office from ANY computer (most powerful possible) may not help...if the basic issue is with Open Office & this super large file.

    At the beginning of this thread you said you initially gave it 10 minutes to open this file...then after some discussion here you have it over 2 hours (and still couldn't open the file). If you go to an Apple Shop to try to open this file...even if they allow you to try...they're most likely are not going to allow you to use the computer for more than 2 hours while you wait for this file to potentially open.

    It sounds like in the past you were still able to open this file when it wasn't quite so large (100.4MB)...and I'm guessing when you were last able to open this file...it was very very slow to open. This extreme opening slowness should have been an indication that something was up...and adding additional content to this already large document would only make it larger & more unwieldy.

    It would seem you're running out of options...maybe going to the Apple Shop and trying to open the file a on newer/faster computer may work...or may not. Also realize that you're going to need to install Open Office on this computer at the Apple Shop...and they may not allow you to do this.

    Good luck,

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    Is this an IOS issue or is the thread in the wrong place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    I think we already covered this earlier in the thread. Super large files didn't seem to be a good thing with Open Office. It seemed like keeping the file size to the 10-15MB area might be better.



    The only reason I can think of where this might help is if the 100.4MB file is "openable" at all...but just needs a lot of time/CPU power. But since the file is so large...running Open Office from ANY computer (most powerful possible) may not help...if the basic issue is with Open Office & this super large file.

    At the beginning of this thread you said you initially gave it 10 minutes to open this file...then after some discussion here you have it over 2 hours (and still couldn't open the file). If you go to an Apple Shop to try to open this file...even if they allow you to try...they're most likely are not going to allow you to use the computer for more than 2 hours while you wait for this file to potentially open.

    It sounds like in the past you were still able to open this file when it wasn't quite so large (100.4MB)...and I'm guessing when you were last able to open this file...it was very very slow to open. This extreme opening slowness should have been an indication that something was up...and adding additional content to this already large document would only make it larger & more unwieldy.

    It would seem you're running out of options...maybe going to the Apple Shop and trying to open the file a on newer/faster computer may work...or may not. Also realize that you're going to need to install Open Office on this computer at the Apple Shop...and they may not allow you to do this.

    Good luck,

    - Nick
    Thanks Nick,
    l had no idea 100.4MB word file was considered big / too difficult for any modern computer. The older 87MB file takes 5secs to open after clicking on it. any idea why the Textmaker free seems unstable in ability to find words or phrases and why it is a 158.7MB file and takes 9 seconds to open (still more pasting to go, from 3Feb19 to ~April), compared to the older 87MB open office file which dates all the way to late april19 with more photos. l like to choose Textmaker free, as it does appear more simple than open office, but critical drawbacks, size and search. but most importantly, l am not confident it would be any more reliable than open office for increasing size >~90MB.

    would the google document software be vulnerable to this problem with increasing size? since it is on the internet, it would only be waiting for it to fully download, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applet View Post
    l had no idea 100.4MB word file was considered big / too difficult for any modern computer. The older 87MB file takes 5secs to open after clicking on it.
    We did kind of discuss this much earlier in the thread (post #1 & post #2)...if opening the 87MB file only takes 5 seconds...and the problems only started when the file became 100.4MB...it would have been great to know this earlier,. I was assuming you were having troubles with the 87MB file as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    We did kind of discuss this much earlier in the thread (post #1 & post #2)...if opening the 87MB file only takes 5 seconds...and the problems only started when the file became 100.4MB...it would have been great to know this earlier,. I was assuming you were having troubles with the 87MB file as well.

    - Nick

    p.s. Thread moved to better area.
    sorry, maybe not making myself clear, 87MB file up to late April no prob, it was only weeks after this where l uploaded half dozen more photos and grew to 100.4MB that seemed to have made it obese or killed it. luckily l saved it with different name so the 87MB can still be open.

    please comment: 'any idea why the Textmaker free seems unstable in ability to find words or phrases and why it is a 158.7MB file and takes 9 seconds to open (still more pasting to go, from 3Feb19 to ~April), compared to the older 87MB open office file which dates all the way to late april19 with more photos. l like to choose Textmaker free, as it does appear more simple than open office, but critical drawbacks, size and search. but most importantly, l am not confident it would be any more reliable than open office for increasing size >~90MB. AND would the google document software be vulnerable to this problem with increasing size? since it is on the internet, it would only be waiting for it to fully download, correct? ' alternatively just use my yahoo email to compose a huge diary, with pics, as this can just be dragged onto the compose text page, also noticed that mp3's can be dragged on, perhaps even an mp4 video? either way, size here (up to yahoo's limit, 1GB) wouldnt effect its reliability or stability like a word software right?
    thanks

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