Safari setting?

[MacInWin]

Safari 9.1.1, OSX 10.11.5, Mid 2015 rMBP, 15"

When I open Safari the entire screen is larger than I want. I use CMD + "-" to go down one tick in size. Is there a way to set that permanently? I've searched and found nothing.

TIA

[pigoo3]

Hey Jake…just wanted to clarify. Are you saying that you prefer (would like) the Safari text setting to be one-tick smaller in size than the default "Actual Size" setting?

Thanks,

- Nick

[pigoo3]

Give this a try Jake. In Safari Preferences…under the "Advanced" tab…there's a setting for "Never use font sizes smaller than…". From what you describe…sounds like you would like it the other way around (Never use font sizes larger than…".

Also did some web searches…and seems that most questions are focused on how to make the default Safari text setting larger (rather than smaller).

Not sure if any of this will lead to a solution.

- Nick

[RadDave]

Hi Jake - I'll sometimes 'Zoom in or out', and then simply go to the 'View' menu and click the 'Actual Size' option which returns me to the default font (arrow in diagram) - not sure how this will work for you but let us know - Dave

P.S. this menu choice is grayed out if the default font size is already set.
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[MacInWin]

Nick, yes, I want it a tick smaller. I got a new retina MBP last week, and the fonts are so clear that I can see them better just a tick smaller. I now invoke Safari, immediately hit CMD & "-" to get that one tick smaller. Would like to have that be the default.

Rod, Actual Size goes back to the default, which is one too large. I want it one smaller than Actual size.

I don't think there is a way to do that. I've done a lot of searching and haven't seen a permanent fix. I'll have to live with it, I guess.

[chscag]

Try this Jake:

Create a CSS file and put it somewhere that it can be pointed to. Then note it in Safari Preferences "Advanced" under Style Sheet. Here's an example that would work for you:

body {
zoom: 90%;
}

(You can use textedit to create it, but make sure you give it a file extension of css.) I use something similar but with a larger font and I named it "default.css".

[MacInWin]

Thanks, chscag, but that didn't work. No change in behavior. I cut/pasted your three lines, saved as default.css, made the change in Preferences, restarted Safari and no change. Thanks for trying, though.

[chscag]

That should have worked. I have mine set to 150% and it works OK. I guess we can't zoom down, just up.

[MacInWin]

Yeah, I don't know why it won't work. Maybe you are right, it's up, not down. Not a big thing, I'm getting into the habit of the immediate CMD- now.

[Slydude]

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That should have worked. I have mine set to 150% and it works OK. I guess we can't zoom down, just up.

No, You can zoom down. I tried the main forum page at 75% and it worked. Not sure if you have to quit Safari for the setting to take effect (don't think so) but I did.

When Charlie initially suggested that I use this to soon in/enlarge pages I had some trouble getting it to work. When I tried this months ago to enlarge files I had to try it twice. Worked right away tonight. I did make sure to put the .css extension on it. TextEdit will ask if you want to replace the .txt extension. Let it do so.

[MacInWin]

Sly, I don't know what to say. The default.css is a pure text file. It's pointed to in Safari Preferences. I've rebooted Safari a half dozen times, no effect. I've double-checked that it's a text file and it exactly matches what Charlie suggested. It SHOULD work, but it simply doesn't.

EDIT: I looked at default.css with a hex editor and there are no extraneous characters at all. Just the 19 Charlie has in his post.

[MacInWin]

I got it to work! The hex editor gave me an idea. What I was seeing was actually 21 bytes, with a leading "*" and a trailing "*" in the file. It must have put them there when I cut/pasted from Charlie's post. I deleted those two characters and restarted Safari and it worked!

Thanks Charlie and Sly!

[Slydude]

Not doubting your word at all. As I say IIRC when I tried this to enlarge pages a few months ago it took a few tries. My encoding setting is Latin 1. Iy also seems to work with Western (Mac US Roman)

[chscag]

Glad you got it to work. I was beginning to doubt that the zoom would work both ways. But when you think about it, we can zoom up and down in Safari by using plus and minus.

[Slydude]

I see your post crossed with my last one. Glad that finally worked for you. maybe that's why I first had trouble with this months ago earn Charlie suggested it. IIRC it took three or four tries for me.