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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    How about when you don't use your ear buds? Does the same problem occur?

    By the way, the ear buds that came with your 8 have the same connector as the charging cable. So, I don't see how the connector or connection could be defective somehow.

    I'm going to try to do some more searching about your problem to see if others have the same thing happening.

    Are you by chance using a protective covering on your phone's screen? There have been reports of certain protective screens causing problems with touch and tap.
    Thanks chscag. I don't use a covering on the screen. Charger works fine. And yes, same thing happens - default to speaker permanently - even without earphones.

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    Okay... this is what I found. Check the setting that's indicated here:

    "Open the “Settings” app on the iPhone and head to “General”, then go to “Accessibility” Look under the Interaction settings for “Call Audio Routing” and tap on it.
    Change the setting from “Automatic” (the default) to “Speaker” to make speakerphone the default for all calls made to and from the iPhone."

    Make sure you haven't selected the above. If you have, the speakerphone will always be on.

    Let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Okay... this is what I found. Check the setting that's indicated here:

    "Open the “Settings” app on the iPhone and head to “General”, then go to “Accessibility” Look under the Interaction settings for “Call Audio Routing” and tap on it.
    Change the setting from “Automatic” (the default) to “Speaker” to make speakerphone the default for all calls made to and from the iPhone."

    Make sure you haven't selected the above. If you have, the speakerphone will always be on.

    Let me know.
    Under Audio Routing I have only 2 options: "Call Audio" & "Media Audio". Because I have hearing aids, and I don't stream from my phone, the only choice I have under those are "never hearing devices" or "always hearing devices" or "automatic". I don't want my phone ringing in my ear, so I have it set at "never". I have no other options. Could this be forcing the use of Speaker?

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    Yes, it's possible that's driving your speakerphone on rather than the default off. Try varying the settings to see if that works.

    By the way, you never mentioned to us that you wear hearing aids. That definitely makes a difference because iOS software handles that in a different way.

    Also it appears that the settings in iOS 13.4 have changed somewhat but it looks like you found the correct "Audio Routing" setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Yes, it's possible that's driving your speakerphone on rather than the default off. Try varying the settings to see if that works.

    By the way, you never mentioned to us that you wear hearing aids. That definitely makes a difference because iOS software handles that in a different way.

    Also it appears that the settings in iOS 13.4 have changed somewhat but it looks like you found the correct "Audio Routing" setting.

    Just got my extra ears! Some jerk threw a firecracker under my feet when I was in college, and there was no available tech until now. Turned off the "Hearing Aid compatibility" functionality, and hoping that will take care of it. I may have to remember to check on that often. Will let you know how it works, because I'm sure others with hearing issues will have the same problem, although it seems most people stream directly into their ears.

    Thank you so much chscag! I can't add to your rep; I tried, but

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    Turned off the "Hearing Aid compatibility" functionality, and hoping that will take care of it. I may have to remember to check on that often.
    hearing aid supplier


    You may want to check with your Hearing Aid supplier and make sure your actual HA model are actually compatible, and what technology they are actually using.

    It's a bit of a confusing zoo out there with all the new developments!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    hearing aid supplier


    You may want to check with your Hearing Aid supplier and make sure your actual HA model are actually compatible, and what technology they are actually using.

    It's a bit of a confusing zoo out there with all the new developments!!!



    - Patrick
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    Thanks Patrick! I did that before I bought them. At the ridiculous prices being charged for HA, one can't be too careful!

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    I wonder if the system assumes that if you turn on the HA function that if the earbuds are not connected, the speaker is much louder. Sort of makes sense if you think a HA wearer is hard of hearing.
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    I wonder if the system assumes that if you turn on the HA function that if the earbuds are not connected, the speaker is much louder. Sort of makes sense if you think a HA wearer is hard of hearing.
    The hearing assist function is meant to reduce noise and interference. If earbuds are not connected I'm wearing my HA, so the speaker sure doesn't need to be louder; I'd actually need more volume using earbuds, since then I'm not wearing HA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowcat View Post
    The hearing assist function is meant to reduce noise and interference. If earbuds are not connected I'm wearing my HA, so the speaker sure doesn't need to be louder; I'd actually need more volume using earbuds, since then I'm not wearing HA.
    I know that, you know that, but maybe the programmers and designers didn't know that. If you were actually hard of hearing, with hearing loss, then when the buds are not in, the louder volume of the speaker would be of some use. For you, not so much.
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowcat View Post
    Thanks Patrick! I did that before I bought them. At the ridiculous prices being charged for HA, one can't be too careful!

    I noticed in the brochure and Resound factory Website information for the COSTCO supplied hearing aid replacement I was getting about nine months ago were "telephone compatible" which I didn't heed very much as they worked with our current telephone.

    Well, we ended up buying new cordless telephones recently which explained how to use them with hearing aids With T-coils installed. I had to phone the Costco hearing aid center to inquire about any T-coil being installed and was informed that my hearing aids did not have them, neither could they be added. They could only tell after cross-checking using the hearing aid serial numbers.

    But not to worry in my case as the new Panasonic Cordless phones we purchased had a feature to help with hearing aid users. It works well.

    Yes the hearing aid prices are crazy, but Costco's pricing (Canada) saved us a few thousand dollars from most regular Hearing Aid Centers for equivalent aids. Just FYI!!!




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    Yes the hearing aid prices are crazy, but Costco's pricing (Canada) saved us a few thousand dollars from most regular Hearing Aid Centers for equivalent aids. Just FYI!!!
    I hate to say it, but HA companies have a captive audience and can pretty much charge whatever they want. Especially here in the States where Medicare and Medicaid will pick up the price for new Aids every 6 or 7 years.

    However, that's beginning to change with alternate less expensive Aids that are now on the market. Those do not need a prescription from your Audio specialist and are easily replaceable. My wife and I volunteer at several nursing homes (before the virus hit) where the majority of residents there wear Hearing Aids. You can just imagine how many times those folks lose their HAs.

    Some of them have resorted to wearing the cheaper HAs that can be bought across the counter and can not tell the difference.

    It reminds me of my prescription glasses which cost over $300 a pair just for the lenses (frames extra). What I do now is buy Readers from Walgreens for around $15.00 and can read with them just as well.

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