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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratsima View Post
    What content would I want to block?
    Ads? Flash, if you have it installed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slydude View Post
    In my case it wasn't just affecting one site. This might not be what is causing your issue but it might be worth a try.
    I have top, sorted by cpu usage, running continuously in a terminal window on my machine. I'd notice any runaway processes.

    Here's normal:

    Code:
    Processes: 497 total, 2 running, 495 sleeping,
    06:49:09 Load Avg: 1.78, 1.62, 1.60
    CPU usage: 3.68% user, 2.82% sys, 93.48% idle
    MemRegions: 85535 total, 3084M resident, 0B pri
    PhysMem: 15G used (2877M wired), 797M unused.
    VM: 4130G vsize, 0B framework vsize, 524083(0)
    Networks: packets: 12226663/6021M in, 14884231/
    Disks: 45605805/1834G read, 14027583/214G writt
    
    PID    COMMAND      %CPU  TIME     #TH   #WQ
    562    iTerm2       4.9   04:51.52 9     4
    296    WindowServer 4.5   48:08.49 12    5
    0      kernel_task  2.2   67:03.28 199/4 0
    34493  Google Chrom 2.1   00:28.15 16    1
    22227  top          1.9   16:22.40 1/1   0
    33782  bzfilelist   1.7   00:41.64 2     1
    564    Google Chrom 0.8   04:11.02 33    1
    666    Default Fold 0.6   00:15.39 5     1
    Here's trying to load mac-forums in Safari:

    Code:
    Processes: 497 total, 3 running, 494 sleeping,
    06:49:58 Load Avg: 1.60, 1.58, 1.58
    CPU usage: 31.5% user, 3.5% sys, 65.89% idle
    MemRegions: 89951 total, 3091M resident, 0B pri
    PhysMem: 15G used (2889M wired), 548M unused.
    VM: 4660G vsize, 0B framework vsize, 525043(0)
    Networks: packets: 12232171/6022M in, 14891613/
    Disks: 45608849/1834G read, 14033940/214G writt
    
    PID    COMMAND      %CPU  TIME     #TH   #WQ
    34481  com.apple.We 100.0 00:10.57 13/1  2
    577    iTunes       11.2  11:17.01 28    2
    296    WindowServer 4.9   48:12.35 13    6
    562    iTerm2       3.7   04:52.90 11    6
    0      kernel_task  3.1   67:04.55 199/4 0
    34493  Google Chrom 2.1   00:29.92 16    1
    22227  top          2.0   16:23.40 1/1   0
    427    sysmond      1.3   04:58.67 3     3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    Ads? Flash, if you have it installed?
    Well, yeah, Flash is blocked.

    Ads? I've lived abroad (away from the US) since 1977; almost all of my adult life. I find the US-based ads to be interesting, amusing and informative. Yes, some are annoying. But, for the most part, I enjoy them and have no problem ignoring them if they are of no interest.

    One of the great joys of having international NFL broadcasts is the ability to watch games live with the advertising in tact. (If you view a delayed game the ads and time-outs have been cut.)

    So, for me the advertising is sort of a cultural adventure. A museum of back home.

    I mean, how else would I find out about "Ring Wi-Fi Enabled Video Doorbell in Satin Nickel, Works with Alexa"? (Advertised at the top of this page.)

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    I mean, how else would I find out about "Ring Wi-Fi Enabled Video Doorbell in Satin Nickel, Works with Alexa"? (Advertised at the top of this page.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post


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    Ian, are you telling me you would not want to own a "Ring Wi-Fi Enabled Video Doorbell in Satin Nickel, Works with Alexa"? hahahaha Grin

    Why do they not have it in Blue, my favorite color?

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    Mac Forums Won't Load in Safari
    I'll get I can't get one on Bali.
    Well, for the time being all my problems have gone away. I'm now logged in to the Mac Forums app on both iPhone and iPad. Also logged in and saved in Safari on both iOS devices and my MBPr.
    Why so many? Because I can't get my email client to open MF links in the app so I need Safari on the MBP whereas I use Firefox as default on my iPhone and iPad so I like to be logged in on iOS Firefox too.
    Just tonight though when I opened the link in Firefox it gave me the option to open the page in the app. Is this new. It happens a with Tapatalk and other app but not before on MF's.
    So given the number of different devices, browsers and apps I was having problems with its hard to imagine the current issues are due to a problem with Safari. For a while there the only place I could login was Safari on MBP.

    By the way how about Practical Electronics for Inventors 4th Edition? Or do you guys already know all that stuff?

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    Repeating myself but for about a week - since I was asked to change password - I can't get in on Firefox.
    Last edited by badshoehabit; 04-15-2019 at 12:29 PM.
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    I know this has been mentioned but with Firefox I humbly suggest you clear cookies and cache then check saved passwords to ensure the old password is not overwriting (autofilling) the new one. I deleted all of my passwords for MF from Safari, Furefox and Keychain during my episode of lockout. Honestly, I don't think the problem was at my end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    I know this has been mentioned but with Firefox I humbly suggest you clear cookies and cache then check saved passwords to ensure the old password is not overwriting (autofilling) the new one. I deleted all of my passwords for MF from Safari, Furefox and Keychain during my episode of lockout. Honestly, I don't think the problem was at my end.


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    Done that, including this morning and it just won't play. I'm now also getting a message from Firefox that a web page is slowing the browser when the only page open is Mac Forums.
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    I tried changing the user agent (Develop menu) from Safari to Chrome.

    That fixed it.

    So, the website must have some Safari specific code that now causes some instances of Safari to hang. Maybe the same for Firefox.

    I did have a brief look at the source code which has a zillion Safari extensions; none of which I really understand.

    So, whoever is doing the website development needs to look at both the Safari and Firefox specific code.

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    Well guys it seems to have resolved at my end but believe me I feel your pain. What has got me puzzled (I'm not a programmer) is why if the app and or site is at fault how come its working for me now and not everybody else?
    Obviously just another thing I don't yet understand I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Sprague View Post
    Well guys it seems to have resolved at my end but believe me I feel your pain. What has got me puzzled (I'm not a programmer) is why if the app and or site is at fault how come its working for me now and not everybody else?
    Obviously just another thing I don't yet understand I guess.
    The reason is that not everyone is served up the same pages that you are. Ads are different depending on what the advertiser wants you to see. Also, the way you have your profile set up changes how the page is built.

    This morning I was able to load a Mac-forum page and respond to the thread without changing the user agent to Chrome. But, for this page I needed to change the user agent.

    For Safari I know that it was working without problems for me when I went on holiday on the 7th. When I returned on the 14th it was broken for me on Safari. So, some change was made during that time frame.

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    When you say "user agent" are you referring to your user name or something else?


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    user_agent.jpg

    To have this you need to enable the Develop menu item: Safari -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Show Develop menu in menu bar

    I should note that this doesn't always work.

    (How's Ubud hanging on? Haven't been there since about 2000. My wife is bugging me about a dive trip to Bali....)

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    Ah, of course. I use this in Vivaldi browser. I've only recently starting using Safari again as default. I gave up on it about 8 years ago in favour of Google Chrome and Netscape. So I'm still learning about its options.
    Bali is good, the volcano (Agung) is still erupting gently and today is election day in Indonesia. Over 2000 candidates to be elected from local reps to the president. It will be huge. We all await the results with the hope that the incumbent (Widodo) will be returned with a decent majority otherwise we "bule" might all be sent home.


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