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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Anyway, even if nothing is user replaceable the new Mini is certainly a step in the right direction and might convince even me that I no longer need an iMac for my home office. I can see pairing up one of Dell's new 32" 5K monitors with the Mini. That would be an awesome combo.
    One? It will take up to three....
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    I've been holding my breath for way too long on regarding a real pro machine from Apple. I gave up. I think the majority of people on here know what I own:
    Mac Pro4.1 with CPU upgrade to "turn" it into a 6-core 3.46GHz MacPro5.1 with 24gb of ram. This 5.1 is real quick for most things.
    Mac Pro 6.1 which I upgraded the CPU to a 10-core 3GHz and shoved in 64gb of ram. This gets really takes care of heavy loads!
    And also have a few MacBook Pros, and an Asus ROG GL-series that I love.

    It BLOWS my mind that Apple has not released a new Mac Pro since the 2013 model year!!!!!!! THAT'S CRAZYYYY!!!!

    I knew I was asking for too much, but I was hoping that maybe they would shed some light on what is really going on with these "pro" machines, but quickly realized they're still fiddling with their thumbs when they showed the new Mac Mini...which is the same thing we've had for years, just with a faster processor. There are new desktops available from other manufacturers that simply blow what's available from Apple right now, and not being able to go to choose a competitive offering from Apple stings me because I need something faster, and the only things available come from Asus or HP! I don't want to switch my desktop platform to windows, but I feel like Apple just does not care a SINGLE BIT for people like me. They are too focused on professional wannabe pro students that take their macbooks to coffee shops and edit some youtube videos.

    Can you tell I'm a little ticked off right now??
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    Hey...

    Good to hear from you again. Been too long.

    Yeah, I kind of agree with you. Although we have been told that Apple is working on a new Mac Pro for release sometime in 2019, for now it's just a "Pie in the Sky". I was not impressed with the iMac Pro as an intermediate replacement for a new Mac Pro since nothing in it is user replaceable and Apple has locked it down to the point where only their specialists can work on it.

    Looking around on other forums (MacRumors) I read of many folks who are of the same opinion as you and have in fact switched platforms. I would hate to see you have to go back to Windows.

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    Charlie

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    One? It will take up to three....
    LOL. Have you priced one of the new 32" Dells? Anyway, I barely have room on my Office desk for my iMac, printers, and slew of external hard drives. Plus, an iPad Pro, iPhone, chargers, and other stuff.

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    I wonder what Apple meant by showing a stack of minis looking like a rack of processors? Is there a way to make a massively parallel system out of Minis? If so, a trio of 6 core boxes would be a $3000 monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    One? It will take up to three....

    LOL, I was thinking the same sort of thing but was surprised he wasn't thinking of using a dual monitor setup with them.





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    I barely have room on my Office desk for my iMac, printers, and slew of external hard drives. Plus, an iPad Pro, iPhone, chargers, and other stuff

    It sounds like someone might want to go shopping or scrounging around for a larger desk.





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    Memory is definitely user upgradeable. Presentation showed DIMMs. Don’t know about the SSD
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    It sounds like someone might want to go shopping or scrounging around for a larger desk. - Patrick ======
    No, what I need is a larger office. My desk is an old style Sears large executive wood walnut desk that weighs a ton and takes up loads of space. Problem is that I have too much stuff on it. I actually need a printer stand and aux book shelf cabinets that can be placed around the desk.

    I've looked in Staples at their office furniture, and they have some nice stuff. But their prices even with my business tax free account is way over what I want to pay. I guess I can always look around Good Will or the Salvation Army stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavingMac View Post
    Memory is definitely user upgradeable. Presentation showed DIMMs. Don’t know about the SSD
    Still, might be best to wait to see what ifixit has to say. Upgradeable memory is definitely a plus though if that's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iggibar View Post
    I've been holding my breath for way too long on regarding a real pro machine from Apple. I gave up. I think the majority of people on here know what I own:
    Mac Pro4.1 with CPU upgrade to "turn" it into a 6-core 3.46GHz MacPro5.1 with 24gb of ram. This 5.1 is real quick for most things.
    Mac Pro 6.1 which I upgraded the CPU to a 10-core 3GHz and shoved in 64gb of ram. This gets really takes care of heavy loads!
    And also have a few MacBook Pros, and an Asus ROG GL-series that I love.

    It BLOWS my mind that Apple has not released a new Mac Pro since the 2013 model year!!!!!!! THAT'S CRAZYYYY!!!!

    I knew I was asking for too much, but I was hoping that maybe they would shed some light on what is really going on with these "pro" machines, but quickly realized they're still fiddling with their thumbs when they showed the new Mac Mini...which is the same thing we've had for years, just with a faster processor. There are new desktops available from other manufacturers that simply blow what's available from Apple right now, and not being able to go to choose a competitive offering from Apple stings me because I need something faster, and the only things available come from Asus or HP! I don't want to switch my desktop platform to windows, but I feel like Apple just does not care a SINGLE BIT for people like me. They are too focused on professional wannabe pro students that take their macbooks to coffee shops and edit some youtube videos.

    Can you tell I'm a little ticked off right now??
    I feel your pain. I have a Mac Pro 5,1 and I refuse to buy the 2013 MP trash can. I just can't spend that kind of money on a machine with so little upgrade options and no expansion room. The iMac Pro is a joke for the true pro - IMO. I like as much screen real estate as possible which means at least two 27" monitors. I can only hope Apple gets serious and offers up a true pro machine in 2019.

    I have a Windows machine that I also use for video editing. It is getting close to the time to replace it as I build it on a Tyan server board in 2008. While it still runs fine there have been some significant upgrades since I built it. What Apple does may determine what I do. And yes, I need two machines that can edit videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Hey...

    Good to hear from you again. Been too long.

    Yeah, I kind of agree with you. Although we have been told that Apple is working on a new Mac Pro for release sometime in 2019, for now it's just a "Pie in the Sky". I was not impressed with the iMac Pro as an intermediate replacement for a new Mac Pro since nothing in it is user replaceable and Apple has locked it down to the point where only their specialists can work on it.

    Looking around on other forums (MacRumors) I read of many folks who are of the same opinion as you and have in fact switched platforms. I would hate to see you have to go back to Windows.

    Regards,

    Charlie
    Hey!! Although I don't post as much as I used to, I still lurk through MF via the website or Facebook posts. I've read a fare share of negative stories regarding iMac Pros. To me, throwing the Pro insignia on one does not mean it can overtake any pro user's desktop throne, especially when you can barely get it open to service it.

    I have noticed 1 HUGE issue with the Mac Pros, and this relates to ALL Apple computers: Thunderbolt! The issue is that it's not reliable with power users. With average users, like those that don't use the thunderbolt connection for more than 1 or 2 external items inconsistently, the issue will probably never be noticed. However, with heavy users like myself, where I have many peripherals connected at once running all the time, you realize thunderbolt is not designed to run a connected peripheral 24/7. My MP5.1 can handle these effortlessly, but not my 6.1, even though Apple says otherwise. This is detrimental to external drives. I run 5 arrays of external drives, and I do not trust my Mac Pro 6.1 to handle and manage the connection on its own- the way it should be like on my Mac Pro 5.1. I don't know how to emphasize how great of an issue this is for me. It's the single reason why I have kept my MP5.1. For heavy, "pro" users, thunderbolt is a gimmick intended to be used as simple all-in-one plugin. It's not even reliable for handling more than 3 monitors. I have to use 4 monitors, and on my 6.1, it will disconnect a monitor every now and then. When this happens, it reshuffles the monitor layout. It's so frustrating. And there's no way around it. The amount of frustrated Mac Pro 6.1 users on the Apple community is crazy!

    I have honestly contemplated on buying a cheap 12-core Mac Pro 4.1/5.1 and swapping out the processors if the next Mac Pro doesn't go back to real pro user connections.

    I'm just really frustrated because this isn't a personal computer issue, this is something I actually need, but I feel cornered because I HATE Windows 10 with every atom in my body!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lclev View Post
    I feel your pain. I have a Mac Pro 5,1 and I refuse to buy the 2013 MP trash can. I just can't spend that kind of money on a machine with so little upgrade options and no expansion room. The iMac Pro is a joke for the true pro - IMO. I like as much screen real estate as possible which means at least two 27" monitors. I can only hope Apple gets serious and offers up a true pro machine in 2019.

    I have a Windows machine that I also use for video editing. It is getting close to the time to replace it as I build it on a Tyan server board in 2008. While it still runs fine there have been some significant upgrades since I built it. What Apple does may determine what I do. And yes, I need two machines that can edit videos.

    Lisa
    I didn't even upgrade my 6.1 to the highest core spec, but the speed rating and real experience with performance so far WAY exceed the 5.1, even with the slight drop in processor speed. The 6.1 obviously has its benefits over the 5.1, but it also has its shortcomings. And shortcoming is something that shouldn't even be discussed with a Mac Pro. It should be a straight save of a system. But Apple is stuck on a minimalist design and connection/expansion mentality right now. I wish someone would hit them all over the head with a 2x4!
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