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    macOS High Sierra APFS only support SSDs
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    Can someone translate all this into Mickey Mouse language and how it will affect me, please? Not the time travel, I'm right up there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badshoehabit View Post
    Can someone translate all this into Mickey Mouse language and how it will affect me, please? Not the time travel, I'm right up there!

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    Hi Sue.

    Your MacBook Pro has a SSD (= Flash storage) and is running macOS Sierra.

    If you go back to Ashwin's original post, #1, there is a Link - and here it is again - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

    This will explain, hopefully, what to expect when macOS High Sierra comes along. As you have an SSD/Flash drive, conversion to APFS is automatic - no choice. Look at the section on APFS compatibility and this explains all. You should have no difficulties as you are running Sierra currently.

    It also tells you about Time Machine and lots else.

    Hope this might help?

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    Thanks, Ian. Clear as mud but you have reassured me. I did read that link initially but thought it applied to networks as it said 'If you’re a system administrator. Suppose I'm the system administrator.
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    'If you’re a system administrator. Suppose I'm the system administrator.
    Yup Sue. Just like a lot of Apple's "Help" topics do and say: "contact your system administrator for help and settings" etc. !!!

    Yeah right, what a sick "help" support suggestion for home users I've always thought that is.


    Suppose I'm the system administrator.
    Yup, that's definitely you if you're the admin user and especially if you're a single home Mac user.


    If so, next stop at some of your local pubs and maybe scrape up some Mac "system administrator" and hope they aren't completely smashed if and when you might need their "help".




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    'If you’re a system administrator. Suppose I'm the system administrator.

    And if you do go with High Sierra (HS) and are using a SSD and decide you want to go back, you'll probably need that privilege in order to do so which isn't an easy cake walk as things are recently standing it seems:

    How to revert back to Apple's HFS+ from APFS
    http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...hfs-from-apfs/

    That could hopefully change after the HS Public Release. Mmmmm…???




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    I can see why folks are confused when I read Patrick's link (I don't mean you, Patrick, I mean the content of the link )

    This is Patrick's link: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...hfs-from-apfs/. ; wherein there are conflicting statements with respect to Apple's official release: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

    For example, the tech republic's article says:
    However, that doesn't mean APFS is everyone, especially considering some of its limitations, such as not being compatible with Time Machine for backups, FileVault 2 for drive encryption
    whereas Apple says:
    APFS and Time Machine

    After you upgrade your institution's Mac and convert to APFS, you won't need to make any changes to Time Machine settings.
    and
    APFS and FileVault

    FileVault volumes are converted from HFS+ to APFS, just like unencrypted volumes.
    I'd be tempted to favour the Apple version. In any case, upgrading to macOS High Sierra is not compulsory and many might want to await till at least the first point update.

    As the Chinese might say: "Interesting Times".

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    @Ian
    As the Chinese might say: "Interesting Times"

    As you probably know, the full Chinese proverb is "May you live in interesting times."

    And pretty appropriate these days I'd say with the nut case president of North Korea they have as a neighbor.




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    Careful Patrick, people in glass (White) houses...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pm-r View Post
    As you probably know, the full Chinese proverb is "May you live in interesting times."

    And pretty appropriate these days I'd say with the nut case president of North Korea they have as a neighbor.
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    BOY! Where is Chuck when we need him?

    +1!!!

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    That's him wading through the Houston floods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badshoehabit View Post
    Careful Patrick, people in glass (White) houses...


    I'm just one of those peaceful, peacekeeping Canadian (English) Canucks types…




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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrarr View Post
    That's him wading through the Houston floods.


    I don't think so, unless the photo was taken with receding water levels, as the shoreline is visible behind him…


    Now back to your normal programming…



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  14. #44
    Back to Apple's release note: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

    It says "flash storage devices" will be automatically converted to APFS when running High Sierra, ie not just Solid State Drives.

    So what happens if I connect a USB flash drive to my Mac with an SSD and running HS, does the USB flash drive then get automatically converted to APSF and can thus not be read by any Mac prior to HS?
    Per the note:
    For example, a USB storage device formatted as APFS can be read by a Mac using High Sierra, but not by a Mac using Sierra or earlier.
    That can't possibly be true.....'
    I would hope that a USB Flash Drive (or any external flash storage device, including SSD's that are not clones) does not automatically get converted to APFS.

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    I will try it here and see what happens.

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