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    Steve Jobs was no genius..
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    Steve Jobs was no genius..

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    Steve Jobs was no genius..
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    A student studying to an ME? Seriously? Why don't they go find some homeless guy from central London to write their next piece...

    That being said, was he a genius? Probably not. Was he a techno visionary? Yes, of a different flavor even. Did he merge aesthetics with functionality? Yes he did, better than any one else had before.

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    i think your response has just made his point.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nb0y32 View Post
    i think your response has just made his point.........
    Perhaps. Either way Jobs and Apple made a huge impact in the way people view and interact with technology. Like it or not, a lot of people view him as the "genius" behind their technology and how it works in their daily lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggss View Post
    Perhaps. Either way Jobs and Apple made a huge impact in the way people view and interact with technology.
    spot on!

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    The small-minded and unaccomplished have always whined that they too would have stood at the pinnacle had they had the opportunity afforded to others.

    Was Steve Jobs a genius?
    Genius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I, and most of the world believe so. If the young (and to my mind presumptuously arrogant) writer of the cited column can show us by his own accomplishments that he has the credentials to judge better than we, then I will give him heed. Until he does that my tendency would be to categorize him with the first group I mentioned above.
    I've always wanted to be smart, handsome and modest. But, I guess I'll have to be satisfied with two out of three . . .

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    dear me, because the said journalist has a different opinion to you lot, he is hung drawn and quartered.....

    small minded you say...hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nb0y32 View Post
    dear me, because the said journalist has a different opinion to you lot, he is hung drawn and quartered.....

    small minded you say...hmm
    Go back and read the last paragraph again.


    Also, everyone is entitled to their opinions (the young man in question not excepted). But it is never in good taste to go to a house in mourning and make snipes at the departed. This a a Forum about all things Mac and we here tend to respect the accomplishments and contributions of Steve Jobs more than others perhaps.
    You should not be surprised if posts such as this one aren't viewed positively.
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    I guess I don't see the rationale that popular (i.e.- successfully marketed) and genius are mutually exclusive existences.

    To me, it just seems like a bit of a hit piece with no real substantiation to support his view.

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    I'm not even sure why this rates a discussion. A college student strings together a few sentences - taking a contrarian view but providing absolutely nothing to support that view - and we're supposed to take notice? This "article" wouldn't even rate publishing in a high school news letter - so I'm surmising the bar is pretty low for this particular blog. Usually - if you want to publish an opinion piece, whether in line with the popular view or not, you'd feel compelled to provide some substantiating evidence for your opinion - not just base your 'arguments' on further unsubstantiated opinion. I wish I had my 20 sec back that I wasted reading someone's completely irrelevant opinion. It seems to me - the proof is in the pudding. You don't impact the world in the way Steve Jobs did - and not rate some lofty title - and genius is as good as any. Whether quantified or not - it's immaterial. Anyone who can so dramatically change the landscape of technology and how we live probably deserves the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLachoreVPI View Post
    I'm not even sure why this rates a discussion. A college student strings together a few sentences - taking a contrarian view but providing absolutely nothing to support that view - and we're supposed to take notice? This "article" wouldn't even rate publishing in a high school news letter - so I'm surmising the bar is pretty low for this particular blog. Usually - if you want to publish an opinion piece, whether in line with the popular view or not, you'd feel compelled to provide some substantiating evidence for your opinion - not just base your 'arguments' on further unsubstantiated opinion. I wish I had my 20 sec back that I wasted reading someone's completely irrelevant opinion. It seems to me - the proof is in the pudding. You don't impact the world in the way Steve Jobs did - and not rate some lofty title - and genius is as good as any. Whether quantified or not - it's immaterial. Anyone who can so dramatically change the landscape of technology and how we live probably deserves the title.
    +1 to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLachoreVPI View Post
    I'm not even sure why this rates a discussion. A college student strings together a few sentences - taking a contrarian view but providing absolutely nothing to support that view - and we're supposed to take notice? This "article" wouldn't even rate publishing in a high school news letter - so I'm surmising the bar is pretty low for this particular blog. Usually - if you want to publish an opinion piece, whether in line with the popular view or not, you'd feel compelled to provide some substantiating evidence for your opinion - not just base your 'arguments' on further unsubstantiated opinion. I wish I had my 20 sec back that I wasted reading someone's completely irrelevant opinion. It seems to me - the proof is in the pudding. You don't impact the world in the way Steve Jobs did - and not rate some lofty title - and genius is as good as any. Whether quantified or not - it's immaterial. Anyone who can so dramatically change the landscape of technology and how we live probably deserves the title.
    +2 to that

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    I decided to skip reading the linked article/blog because I"m sure he's just trying to gain notice to his blog by just writing something un-substantiating and of course hot topic. There's a film critic for Rotten Tomatoes that does this just to generate hits on his posts that seems to sound like the author above.

    The term "Genius" when applied to Jobs could be ambiguous based on your opinion of his career accomplishments. Someone that doesn't particularly care for Apple products will of course discount anything successful he's produced as nothing more than a fancy wrapping paper on a PC. Someone that favors Apple products will of course view Jobs as a "Genius" and visionary in the field.
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    To me this is not worth arguing about, but in my eyes Jobs is a Genius in many ways. I have been following him since his early years at apple and he was so ahead of his time in many ways, and many of his ideas TO ME are true genius.

    Now the Genius's at the Genius Bars, that is another Story!!! Grin

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    And let us wait for another fifty years and see if this Tim character is anywhere near the genius Jobs was.
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