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conv60
02-12-2017, 01:26 PM
How do I reduce the spinning ball time? I usually have about five tabs open at any given time.:(

pigoo3
02-12-2017, 01:35 PM
Many things can be tried/done. Of course without more info about your setup...hard to say what will help the most. One place to start is reboot the computer more often.

- Nick

conv60
02-12-2017, 01:48 PM
That is probably sound advise to start with. I do go long periods of time without rebooting.

RadDave
02-12-2017, 02:09 PM
That is probably sound advise to start with. I do go long periods of time without rebooting.

Hello - I was going to welcome you to the forum seeing just 3 posts (2 in this thread) but you joined 8 years ago! ;)

I believe what Nick was asking concerned the details on your computer; for starters: 1) What Mac do your own (model & year); 2) How much RAM; 3) Size & type of your drive (also how much storage is free); 4) What macOS is installed; and 5) What apps seem to be the most troublesome? Answers to these questions will greatly help provide specific advise - also check the links in Nick's signature which addresses several of these issues. Good luck - Dave :)

pigoo3
02-12-2017, 03:07 PM
That is probably sound advise to start with. I do go long periods of time without rebooting.

Yes...that's a good one. If going long periods without rebooting...especially if there's not a lot of installed RAM...rebooting more often can help.

As RadDave expertly mentioned. Knowing your full computer situation would help (exact computer spec's, amount of storage free space, OS version installed, etc.).

- Nick

conv60
02-12-2017, 11:42 PM
Yes I was a little surprised to see I had signed up so long ago, but thanks for the welcome anyway. I have not had much trouble on what I do on my mac and when I do I usually just google for and answer. Going through my file I discovered I was already a member. I am working on a couple things from Nick to see if it is any better. If not I will enter all my mac info and we can go from there. Thanks for the reply - James

conv60
02-12-2017, 11:48 PM
It is kinda scary see all that "google chrome helper" memory being googled up, should I be worried?

pm-r
02-12-2017, 11:54 PM
That is probably sound advise to start with. I do go long periods of time without rebooting.


Also doing a cold boot and using Safe Boot Mode and then run any Disk Utility repairs/first aid, and then just reboot normally, can often purge a lot of surplus junk and help speed things up.





- Patrick
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RadDave
02-13-2017, 12:00 AM
Yes I was a little surprised to see I had signed up so long ago, but thanks for the welcome anyway. I have not had much trouble on what I do on my mac and when I do I usually just google for and answer. Going through my file I discovered I was already a member. I am working on a couple things from Nick to see if it is any better. If not I will enter all my mac info and we can go from there. Thanks for the reply - James

Please return to my post and give us the answers to the questions asked - this will be of great help to all trying to solve your issues - Dave :)

harryb2448
02-13-2017, 03:17 AM
I just can't fathom folk who need help it appears but will NOT supply Mac and operating system details.

Self defeating isn't it?

Rod Sprague
02-13-2017, 03:59 AM
Yep, I agree, a screen shot of "About this Mac" would do it. With the serial number annotated out of course, maybe that's a problem for some.


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conv60
02-13-2017, 01:09 PM
Hello - I was going to welcome you to the forum seeing just 3 posts (2 in this thread) but you joined 8 years ago! ;)

I believe what Nick was asking concerned the details on your computer; for starters: 1) What Mac do your own (model & year); 2) How much RAM; 3) Size & type of your drive (also how much storage is free); 4) What macOS is installed; and 5) What apps seem to be the most troublesome? Answers to these questions will greatly help provide specific advise - also check the links in Nick's signature which addresses several of these issues. Good luck - Dave :)

Okay here is the following:

imac (20 inch early 2009)
OS X El Capitan
ver 10.11.6
Memory 2GB 1067 MHZ DDR3
Processor 2.66 GHZ intel core 3 Duo
Graphics NIVIDA Geforce 9400 256 MB
Running the Active monitor after restart last night the memory used is 173 GB
cached files 279.2 MB
Swap used 168.5 (up from 0) with reboot last night.

RadDave
02-13-2017, 01:57 PM
Okay here is the following:

imac (20 inch early 2009)
OS X El Capitan
ver 10.11.6
Memory 2GB 1067 MHZ DDR3
Processor 2.66 GHZ intel core 3 Duo
Graphics NIVIDA Geforce 9400 256 MB
Running the Active monitor after restart last night the memory used is 173 GB
cached files 279.2 MB
Swap used 168.5 (up from 0) with reboot last night.

Thanks for giving your specs - you still need to provide your drive capacity and how much storage is free (check using 'About This Mac' -> 'Storage').

One likely issue is in bold above, i.e. only 2 GB RAM which is just not going to handle the more modern macOS versions, such as El Capitan or Sierra - your computer seems to be the one below (although the CPU is stated to be Duo Core) - the source is the EveryMac Website (http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.66-20-inch-aluminum-early-2009-specs.html) - check the link for all of your specs - RAM can be increased to 8 GB, which likely will be recommended, although your computer is 8 years old and the drive has not yet been addressed. Dave :)
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pm-r
02-13-2017, 02:18 PM
Okay here is the following:
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Memory 2GB 1067 MHZ DDR3
That's equivalent to using a Briggs & Stratton type engine in your car!!!


Running the Active monitor after restart last night the memory used is 173 GB
Something drastically wrong if that is the the actual figure.

What happens when cold booting and using Safe Boot Mode???






- Patrick
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harryb2448
02-13-2017, 03:30 PM
Well much is explained. The iMac is getting on and the CPUs and gfx will have troubles with modern web sites etc. The 'net has improved dramatically over the past eight years and what was a 'state of the art' computer then will have trouble cutting it. Best improvements to your Mac would be an SSD and increasing memory up to 8GB.. For both, Crucial and OWC recommended here.

conv60
02-13-2017, 04:47 PM
Macintosh HD: 205.43 GB free of 319.21GB

Can I take a screen shot and add it to this post?

conv60
02-13-2017, 05:15 PM
You are right, maybe I need to start thinking about the unthinkable and upgrading my machine! I will limp a long a little longer with this one.

RadDave
02-13-2017, 05:43 PM
Macintosh HD: 205.43 GB free of 319.21GB

Can I take a screen shot and add it to this post?

Sure - you can 'edit' the post and make changes - below are 2 screen captures (I like to use CMD-SHIFT-4 to select the area of interest) from my MBAir of areas of interest for obtaining info about your computer. There are two options for adding images (whether screen captures or other pics on your computer): 1) Use the 'Image' icon (see 3rd pic below); or 2) Use 'Manage Attachments' (last 2 pics) - easily learned. To manipulate your pics, Preview works well for cropping, resizing, annotating, and adding text, as I did below. Hope this helps - Dave :)
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conv60
02-15-2017, 12:10 AM
Thanks Dave, and the rest of you who gave constructive comments. It amazes me the wealth of knowledge of people and their willingness to share with others. :)

The top one was from yesterday. The second one I deleted my music from itunes and iphotos

pm-r
02-15-2017, 01:32 PM
The top one was from yesterday. The second one I deleted my music from iTunes and iphotos



Hmmm… I'd be very surprised if an overall reduction of 0.55GB of drive space will make much difference but post back with your results.






- Patrick
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conv60
02-15-2017, 03:26 PM
I can see some overall quicker response time, but I think I am urinating against the wind with my small amount of memory. Time to make an upgrade.

pm-r
02-15-2017, 04:41 PM
Time to make an upgrade.


It's generally agreed that 2GB RAM is inadequate for most users use, especially with recent OS X versions, but a watch on your Activity Monitor for any swaps or pageouts would confirm that for your use.






- Patrick
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conv60
02-18-2017, 04:00 PM
It's generally agreed that 2GB RAM is inadequate for most users use, especially with recent OS X versions, but a watch on your Activity Monitor for any swaps or pageouts would confirm that for your use.



- Patrick
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I just bumped my imac up to 8 GB just now, seem to be better already.

RadDave
02-18-2017, 06:41 PM
I just bumped my imac up to 8 GB just now, seem to be better already.

Great - hope that the increased RAM will indeed help! :) Just a few other suggestions: 1) Disk Utility - might want to run the First Aid option which will check your aging HD (see attachment - just ran the check on my MBAir's SSD); and 2) Download OnyX from HERE (http://www.titanium.free.fr) - obtain the version that matches your macOS and run in automation mode - may clean up your HD and hopefully reduced the amount of 'stuff' you have in that 'OTHER' category on your posted drive images. Dave
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conv60
02-18-2017, 09:10 PM
Great - hope that the increased RAM will indeed help! :) Just a few other suggestions: 1) Disk Utility - might want to run the First Aid option which will check your aging HD (see attachment - just ran the check on my MBAir's SSD); and 2) Download OnyX from HERE (http://www.titanium.free.fr) - obtain the version that matches your macOS and run in automation mode - may clean up your HD and hopefully reduced the amount of 'stuff' you have in that 'OTHER' category on your posted drive images. Dave
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I ran the utilities as show above. Here is what it looks like now.
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RadDave
02-18-2017, 09:25 PM
I ran the utilities as show above. Here is what it looks like now.

Hi again - your image is that of the Activity Monitor (which looks good) - not what I am asking - need to find Disk Utility (see image below which is in my Sierra 'Other' folder in Launchpad) - look at the arrowed icon attached - this is the app that you need to run - Dave :)
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conv60
02-18-2017, 11:51 PM
Hi again - your image is that of the Activity Monitor (which looks good) - not what I am asking - need to find Disk Utility (see image below which is in my Sierra 'Other' folder in Launchpad) - look at the arrowed icon attached - this is the app that you need to run - Dave :)
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NO, I ran both of your suggestions , I just did not post it. I misunderstood what you wanted.

RadDave
02-19-2017, 12:06 AM
NO, I ran both of your suggestions , I just did not post it. I misunderstood what you wanted.

No problem, the reason to run Disk Utility was to make sure that your HD was still functioning normally - what were your results? If OK, then DL OnyX and run in automated mode - Dave :) P.S. never suggested that you look @ Activity Monitor?

conv60
02-19-2017, 04:46 PM
No problem, the reason to run Disk Utility was to make sure that your HD was still functioning normally - what were your results? If OK, then DL OnyX and run in automated mode - Dave :) P.S. never suggested that you look @ Activity Monitor?

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