Duplicate photos in "Photos".

Joined
Jan 10, 2012
Messages
596
Reaction score
8
Points
18
When one imports pictures into Photos they appear in a "main" area along with all the others. I want to sort them into categories, e.g. Butterflies, Insects etc. So far I have created albums with these names and I want to MOVE the pictures into them, not SHARE them which seems to be the only option. If I share them and then delete the original, the shared one also goes! So now I am talking up even more space by having at least two of every photo.
Can one MOVE photos into a dedicated album or only SHARE them?
I've checked the HELP option but nothing about moving photos there.
Frustrating!
 

chscag

Well-known member
Staff member
Admin
Joined
Jan 23, 2008
Messages
65,248
Reaction score
1,833
Points
113
Location
Keller, Texas
Your Mac's Specs
2017 27" iMac, 10.5" iPad Pro, iPhone 8, iPhone 11, iPhone 12 Mini, Numerous iPods, Monterey
OK, I just tried to duplicate what you did. Here's what I did.... I created a new untitled album and gave it a name. I then moved 5 photos into that album. Now when I click on the new album the photos are there. But just like you said, they also show up in the all photos category. What I can't determine is if the photos I placed there were actually duplicated or instead a pointer to the originals was created.

I also did this: I then placed a picture that I was going to delete anyway in the new album and went back to the all photos and deleted it from there. It was also deleted from the new album and "one" photo was placed in the Photos Trash. That leads me to believe that pointers are created when you move photos to an album that was created rather than the original being duplicated.

What do you think?
 
Joined
Apr 28, 2011
Messages
447
Reaction score
12
Points
18
I think what happens in Photos is that there is one original and edits and album copies are actually non-destructive instructions that use that original. But not being sure about this I sometimes use File Duplicate. What I think happens then is that Photos creates a new original. But I could be wrong.
 
Joined
Nov 19, 2006
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
81
Points
48
Location
York, UK
Your Mac's Specs
iMac: 5K 27” (2020), 3.3 GHz, 32Gb RAM. iPad2, iPad mini4, iPhone 13 Mini, Apple Watch SE
If it works like iPhoto then the actual image is held once only. All other instances (and you can have the same image in many albums) are virtual, having pointers to the original. No duplicates are created unless you specifically create a duplicate.
 
C

chas_m

Guest
That's not actually how iPhoto has (ever) worked, so I'm pretty sure that's not how Photos works either. In iPhoto, there are two copies of any image -- an untouched "master," and the altered/edited version. A quick look in the Photos Library package suggests that little has changed from iPhoto in this regard.
 
Joined
Nov 19, 2006
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
81
Points
48
Location
York, UK
Your Mac's Specs
iMac: 5K 27” (2020), 3.3 GHz, 32Gb RAM. iPad2, iPad mini4, iPhone 13 Mini, Apple Watch SE
That's not actually how iPhoto has (ever) worked, so I'm pretty sure that's not how Photos works either. In iPhoto, there are two copies of any image -- an untouched "master," and the altered/edited version. A quick look in the Photos Library package suggests that little has changed from iPhoto in this regard.

I was referring to unedited images, in which case one one copy exists.
 
Joined
Nov 26, 2012
Messages
1,035
Reaction score
22
Points
38
Location
Agusan del Norte, Philippines
Your Mac's Specs
L2012 Mini, i7 2.6Ghz, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD(fusion), BenQ 32" 2.5k QHD Display
I think what happens in Photos is that there is one original and edits and album copies are actually non-destructive instructions that use that original. But not being sure about this I sometimes use File Duplicate. What I think happens then is that Photos creates a new original. But I could be wrong.

Correct..

When you duplicate a file, what you actually get is a virtual copy. Photos creates a virtual file in the library that only holds meta data and file edits. It still requires the original photo, however the benefit is that it doesn't take up the amount of file space a new image would.
 
Joined
Nov 19, 2006
Messages
1,782
Reaction score
81
Points
48
Location
York, UK
Your Mac's Specs
iMac: 5K 27” (2020), 3.3 GHz, 32Gb RAM. iPad2, iPad mini4, iPhone 13 Mini, Apple Watch SE
Correct..

When you duplicate a file, what you actually get is a virtual copy. Photos creates a virtual file in the library that only holds meta data and file edits. It still requires the original photo, however the benefit is that it doesn't take up the amount of file space a new image would.

Some confusion here surely. When you purposely create a duplicate iPhotos creates a second file. You can delete the original with no ill effects the duplicate is still there. Would this be the case if the duplicate was a virtual file (like those 'copies' in albums)?
 

Shop Amazon


Shop for your Apple, Mac, iPhone and other computer products on Amazon.
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon and affiliated sites.
Top