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ByzantineRemnant
02-02-2006, 03:30 AM
I cant believe no one has noticed or posted on this yet. The 20" iMac G5 is now only $1499, what a deal. With the student discount, it is only $1399! Freaking amazing, I dont know if I can pass this deal up...although it does make sense since some of the components are a little older than that of the intel iMac. Regardless, Im seriously considering...

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/7200601/wo/X44LmEkpkQTo2z9RTwM2SCr7235/0.SLID?mco=CAE52EDB&nclm=iMacG5

Berman
02-02-2006, 04:02 AM
wow that's a nice price. i'm going to have to show my sister that. i got her to buy a 15" powerbook, and she hasn't touched her desktop pc since :D

she said it best last time i saw her -- "it's never done one single thing wrong and every single thing i've tried to do with it works perfectly." i thought that for a sec and realized it's true for my mac's as well. i have a 20" imac g5, and a little 12" ibook. both rock, and that little ibook is such a nice travel companion.

dtravis7
02-02-2006, 05:13 AM
I have that system (imac G5 2.1Ghz with Isight) and love it. Very fast, stable.

ByzantineRemnant
02-02-2006, 12:41 PM
Ok folks, hear me out,
Right now I am currently debating whether to buy the iMac G5, with this amazing deal, or wait until summer and get an intel iMac. I want to primarily use the machine for video editing and sound engineering, as well as photo editing. The problem arises when I look at the available 256mb Video Card and IMO, better Ram options on the intel. Yet I do not want to suffer the performance lag using Rosetta. Final Cut and ProTools are not yet native. Its quite a problem to think about. The iMac G5 would be roughly $400 cheaper with the options I'd equip them with. 1.5gigs of Ram on the G5, 2gigs on the intel, and the 128 MB X600 XT vs the 256 MB X1600...Otherwise the Superdrive, display and HD seem to be the same. Care to help me out with some logical opinions?

unpresi
02-02-2006, 02:15 PM
amazon has the same deal but with a 150.00 dollar rebate, bringing
your total price to 1349.00 out the door no tax!!!

i couldnt resist and ordered mine yesterday.

EDIT-XTREEM
02-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Ok folks, hear me out,
Right now I am currently debating whether to buy the iMac G5, with this amazing deal, or wait until summer and get an intel iMac. I want to primarily use the machine for video editing and sound engineering, as well as photo editing. The problem arises when I look at the available 256mb Video Card and IMO, better Ram options on the intel. Yet I do not want to suffer the performance lag using Rosetta. Final Cut and ProTools are not yet native. Its quite a problem to think about. The iMac G5 would be roughly $400 cheaper with the options I'd equip them with. 1.5gigs of Ram on the G5, 2gigs on the intel, and the 128 MB X600 XT vs the 256 MB X1600...Otherwise the Superdrive, display and HD seem to be the same. Care to help me out with some logical opinions?
ok,
i'm not a pro final cut user, but i have a 20" 2.1 iSight with 1.5gb and its great.

ByzantineRemnant
02-04-2006, 12:43 PM
So what would one do? Buy the G5 or wait for an intel?

WasabiTaylor
02-04-2006, 01:31 PM
Buy the G5. I've got the Rev. B and love it.

I am considering suggesting my parents buy this with my sister's education discount for the new family computer. The HP is making me look bad...

EDIT-XTREEM
02-04-2006, 01:32 PM
id buy a g5 because not all programs are native yet as well as it is only rev A

timswim78
02-04-2006, 02:04 PM
Did I miss the announcement from Apple that they were no longer selling the 17" PowerPC iMac, or did Apple just stop selling it without an announcement?

PowerBookG4
02-04-2006, 02:47 PM
get the intel in the summer.. final cut will be universal in march.

Berman
02-04-2006, 04:29 PM
Buy the G5. I've got the Rev. B and love it.

I am considering suggesting my parents buy this with my sister's education discount for the new family computer. The HP is making me look bad...

the imac makes a great home computer. i have a nice gateway right next to my 20" imac, and i think i've touched the gateway twice since I bought the mac. in august. :D

delboywww
02-05-2006, 05:24 AM
Hi All,

First posting on here so be gentle with me !!!

I am looking to replace my ageing PC and need some re-assurance !

Some years ago I caught a cold buying a Mac Performa 6400/200 Creative Studio which at the time was supposed to be the bees knees and at 3,300 it should have been, however the PC world suddenly got cheaper and my Mac was left for dust. Although it was easy to use, I remember being annoyed that a lot of software was not compatible and it did not like me using it for music purposes. I have been told that Mac's have come a long way since then ?

Looking around I am having trouble deciding which way to go but naturally I am being drawn towards the 20" G5 imac as it seems so much more advanced than PC's.

Questions ?
Will it run my windows word documents etc.
Does it have a TV tuner.
Will I be better going for the G5 rather than wait for the Intel.
Do I need to get any upgrades if buying the G5.
Which ISP to use as I think that some do not support Apple operating systems.
Any downsides to getting one.

My main use is for Internet, Music, Photo's, and occasional word processing

Any advice would be most appreciated as I think I have made my mind up but need that final shove in the back !

THANKS
Del
Surrey
England

Berman
02-05-2006, 02:55 PM
Hi All,

First posting on here so be gentle with me !!!

I am looking to replace my ageing PC and need some re-assurance !

Some years ago I caught a cold buying a Mac Performa 6400/200 Creative Studio which at the time was supposed to be the bees knees and at 3,300 it should have been, however the PC world suddenly got cheaper and my Mac was left for dust. Although it was easy to use, I remember being annoyed that a lot of software was not compatible and it did not like me using it for music purposes. I have been told that Mac's have come a long way since then ?

Looking around I am having trouble deciding which way to go but naturally I am being drawn towards the 20" G5 imac as it seems so much more advanced than PC's.

Questions ?
Will it run my windows word documents etc.
Does it have a TV tuner.
Will I be better going for the G5 rather than wait for the Intel.
Do I need to get any upgrades if buying the G5.
Which ISP to use as I think that some do not support Apple operating systems.
Any downsides to getting one.

My main use is for Internet, Music, Photo's, and occasional word processing

Any advice would be most appreciated as I think I have made my mind up but need that final shove in the back !

THANKS
Del
Surrey
England

in order:
-yes
-no
-the jury is still out on that one
-max out the memory with either. osx is a huge memory hog, i got a very noticeable performance boost going from 512megs of ram in my 20" imac to 2 gigs of ram
-any isp will work with a mac. when they say they don't support osx, it means that they will not provide you with tech support for osx in case things aren't working right.
-i can't really think of any

and yes, things have come a long long way from os 9. to be honest, mac's kind of sucked back then (blasphemy!). now, unless you want to play games, they are arguably superior to windows pc's.

even the pricing isn't bad at all anymore. with the crazy low prices you can get one of those G5 imac's at ... it's on par with pc hardware at least. a 20" lcd isn't cheap, and when you DO get one cheap with a dell or whatever, the quality is **** poor compared to the imac's screen (which is really an apple cinema display). plus it's got all the latest gizmos built in already -- bluetooth, wireless, dual layer dvd burner, isight, etc.

delboywww
02-05-2006, 06:44 PM
in order:
-yes
-no
-the jury is still out on that one
-max out the memory with either. osx is a huge memory hog, i got a very noticeable performance boost going from 512megs of ram in my 20" imac to 2 gigs of ram
-any isp will work with a mac. when they say they don't support osx, it means that they will not provide you with tech support for osx in case things aren't working right.
-i can't really think of any

and yes, things have come a long long way from os 9. to be honest, mac's kind of sucked back then (blasphemy!). now, unless you want to play games, they are arguably superior to windows pc's.

even the pricing isn't bad at all anymore. with the crazy low prices you can get one of those G5 imac's at ... it's on par with pc hardware at least. a 20" lcd isn't cheap, and when you DO get one cheap with a dell or whatever, the quality is **** poor compared to the imac's screen (which is really an apple cinema display). plus it's got all the latest gizmos built in already -- bluetooth, wireless, dual layer dvd burner, isight, etc.

Thanks Berman,
Appreciate the info.
Del

tk26
02-05-2006, 09:09 PM
ok guys I am also contemplating getting the iMac G5 or the Intel iMac G5, it would be a 20", now my questions is some programs such as Photoshop CS2 are not intel native/universal. When they come out with the next universal and intel native version how will it perform on the normal iMac. Will the same capability issues happen to the older iMac's when the new intel native programs come out. Will the new intel native programs run great on both processors or will they run better on the intel?

My second questions is that I was planning on getting the upgraded Video Card - 256mb but it cannot do this if I get the older iMac will the upgraded videocard give a big performance boost? will I notice a big difference and what will it affect? Say in like 3-5 years from now will the 128mb card be outdated and not be able to run the newer version of programs like photoshop?

ByzantineRemnant
02-06-2006, 02:48 AM
In 3-5 years they both will be outdated. I have since decided since I started this post, to wait for the first revision of the intel Macs, and go for it then. If this is not until next November, then so be it, I wont have to blow all my savings.

macanal
02-06-2006, 06:37 AM
I would get the intel just because pro Apple apps will be universal in March( apparantly Apple are making great update deals) also photoshop will be good enough on the intel for all but Pro's.

The way i see it is a bit of short term pain for long term gain!!!

by next year most apps will be universal and you will be kicking yourself if you got a G5.
Also think about resale value, by the time your ready to sell you Imac everything will be universal and the intel Imac will hold it value much better then the G5 imac in this situation.

Thats just my opinion

Smartz
02-06-2006, 09:46 AM
Hi All

As an owner of the now dead 17 inch Imac G5 Isight and also now the newer DC Intel version. I have some words of advise.

Personally I would have no problem in getting the Intel again over the G5, however there is one improtant thing i have found. If you buy an intel with the basic 512mb of ram it is no more quicker and in some cases slower than the G5. However if you go and install 1gb or in my case 1.5gb of ram then the intel really takes off.

There is no apparent lag even when using programs that do require rossetta in my case the adobe cs2 suite. As long as you get the system ram you will feel the processer speed gains.

I did compare both with 1gb fitted and the intel flew!!!!

Smartz
02-06-2006, 09:48 AM
Oh and for more info go for the Kingston ram! Its around 60% less than Apple and Crucial!

ByzantineRemnant
02-06-2006, 02:28 PM
yes yes, intel mac it is.

EDIT-XTREEM
02-06-2006, 05:02 PM
yes yes, intel mac it is.
i would not buy an intel mac yet because its a rev A. remember all the issues with rev a in the past...fires(burning) melting..batterys..and so on.. you get the point?

ByzantineRemnant
02-06-2006, 07:54 PM
If you look 2 posts above you will see that I am indeed planning on waiting for the first revision.

ByzantineRemnant
02-06-2006, 07:54 PM
If you look 2 posts above you will see that I am indeed planning on waiting for the first revision.

delboywww
02-06-2006, 08:04 PM
i would not buy an intel mac yet because its a rev A. remember all the issues with rev a in the past...fires(burning) melting..batterys..and so on.. you get the point?


Sorry to sound thick but what is RevA ?

I had just about made my mind up today to go for the G5 but now I have read last few posts, I am unsure again !!!!!!!

Del :confused:

EDIT-XTREEM
02-06-2006, 08:11 PM
rev a is the first revision. the intel mac is a rev a. the imac is a rev c (i think)

EDIT-XTREEM
02-06-2006, 08:12 PM
go for the g5

tk26
02-06-2006, 09:13 PM
what is Crucial's site because can someone please correct because it shows me that the RAM costs 140 US per gig? am i looking at the wrong type of RAM or what? because for me it's cheaper to go through apple. If i were looking for a 1gig stick how much would it cost?

Meyvn
02-06-2006, 09:20 PM
The thing is, the 17" Intel iMac has a significantly more powerful processor, and Universal Binaries are going to be coming out by the truckload soon. Many third party developers have already got releases out, for instance the Mozilla Foundation. And the Intel 17" is 1299, 200 dollars cheaper than the slower, older G5.

ByzantineRemnant
02-17-2006, 02:46 AM
Right now on Apple's site, you can get a Refurbished 20" G5 iMac w/ isight for $1299. Even better deal IMO. does anyone know if these systems are all scratched up or anything? The price is so very tempting...

ByzantineRemnant
02-22-2006, 10:47 PM
^This refurbished iMac does not include ilife 06'
For students, an additional $100 will get you a new G5 iMac with ilife 06'

Smartz
02-27-2006, 02:29 PM
^This refurbished iMac does not include ilife 06'
For students, an additional $100 will get you a new G5 iMac with ilife 06'

See there is justification enough for the Intel machine. What i would say is that you cannot treatt he intel imac as a revision A because in theory it is a revision D. The only real difference between the machine and the powerpc is a new motherboard. Apple know how to keep the internals of that form factor cool and there is very little to worry about. My revision A intel imac is silent and has not once caused me any major concern at all. I was so impressed that when my PC at work died i talked my boss into letting me have an Intel imac there too.

I havent looked back. Though it might be worth waiting until the news tomorrow in terms of what Stevie J will pull out of his hat. I might be a nice new sexy home media centre cube so who knows....

rs2sensen
03-01-2006, 01:10 AM
"What i would say is that you cannot treatt he intel imac as a revision A because in theory it is a revision D. The only real difference between the machine and the powerpc is a new motherboard."

New motherboard and processor is a fairly big change...

Jammers
03-01-2006, 02:06 PM
I would get the intel just because pro Apple apps will be universal in March( apparantly Apple are making great update deals) also photoshop will be good enough on the intel for all but Pro's.

The way i see it is a bit of short term pain for long term gain!!!

by next year most apps will be universal and you will be kicking yourself if you got a G5.
Also think about resale value, by the time your ready to sell you Imac everything will be universal and the intel Imac will hold it value much better then the G5 imac in this situation.

Thats just my opinion

Correct everything will be universal which means it will run on Intel and Power PC models. Your post implies that Universal appas are Intel only.

delboywww
03-21-2006, 08:44 AM
Hi All,

Well after a long deliberation I finally have bought an Imac G5 20" before they disappear from the stores. 250 less than an Intel and for what I want it for which is copying DVD's and CD's, Internet, Ipod music etc, and digital images then I think it will be more than sufficient.
Thought about the Intel but kept reading problems with Rosetta etc and thought I do not want to wait for a year until revA is released so took the plunge !
I hope I did the right thing, I have not tried it yet but its got to blow my aging PC away ! Better start learning how to use it as my last Mac was a 6400/200 Performa running OS7.5 I think !
Del
Surrey
England

imacdoyou
03-21-2006, 09:19 AM
I just bought my Imac G5 and I love it. I'm not a real multitasker so this fit the bill for me. I usually burn DVDs and browse the internet at the same time, sometimes I have Itunes running, but even then it doesn't slow down my G5. the powerpc processor works great for me. That said, I will upgrade to a dual core setup but I'd like to see what Apple comes up with for the Imac line in like two or three years when my Applecare plan expires!

delboywww
03-22-2006, 03:19 AM
I read somewhere that to use dial up for internet on my G5, I would have to get an external modem and I assume that for Broadband I can just use the internal modem, can anyone confirm this or advise please.

Also if anyone in UK could advise which ISP would be best suited to Apple I would appreciate it. I have heard that not all providers support Apple.

Thanks
Del

to_tough_to_die
03-22-2006, 09:56 AM
A) Ethernet is built-in on the iMac, however to dial-in using a 56k connection, you will need a USB to 56k adapter.

B) When your ISP says that they don't support Macs, it usually means either that they have something like free Anti-Virus software (which you don't even need on a Mac), or tech support, sometimes both. If you know what you're doing and the basic steps to keeping up your home network, you should be fine.

delboywww
03-22-2006, 07:45 PM
OK, cheers for that.
I'm lovin' it already !

Del

delboywww
03-23-2006, 03:24 AM
Hi All,
I am using AOL dial up at the moment but want to go to broadband.
Lots of people are telling me not to go with AOL broadband and I must say that I am not all that happy using AOL dial up as I get frequent line disconnections.
My son has a non wireless PC that he wants to use for internet as well as my Imac G5 so I need advice on the best way to do it. Is Airport the way to go bearing in mind my sons PC is not wireless ?.
Also I read that some ISP's do not have wireless option.
Anyone advise on best ISP in UK ?
Any advice appreciated as new to all this new technology !


Thanks
Del

dtravis7
03-23-2006, 03:36 AM
I would not go with AOL for Broadband. I really do not like AOL. Just go with normal DSL or Cable depending what is in your area.

Wireless is handy as you do not need wires all over the place. I use Wires for my main systems but wireless for my laptops so I can carry them around the house or even outside. I prefer wired though for my fixed systems as for network transfer of large files between my systems, it's faster. For just Internet though WiFi is fine and you don't have to try to run Cat-5 all over the place. You can get a Wireless router and plug DSL or Cable into it and your Airport will work great with it. Get your son a WiFi card for his PC and all will work.

delboywww
03-23-2006, 03:41 AM
OK thanks dtravis, appreciate the advice.

Del

digital john
03-23-2006, 05:34 PM
The iMac G5 is the best computer I have ever owned. I havent had one problem with it at all and I have owned it for over a year and it is still running like the first day I got it.

delboywww
03-23-2006, 06:12 PM
Thanks for that John, its good to hear and puts my mind at rest !
My first impressions are good, especially the speed with which it transfers music to my Ipod !
Thinking about an ibook now ! whats your views on them ?

Regards
Del

digital john
03-23-2006, 07:45 PM
The iBook is a great laptop for general computer usuage...I bought my sister one for this past x-mas and she loves it and uses it all the time. If portability isnt really necessary for you I would go with the iMac but if it is an issue then an iBook isnt out of the question. You may even be able to get a great deal on a powerbook since they are on their way out but in my opinion if you are really into your computer and need a good amount of horsepower then I wouldnt go lower then a G5 processor. If you do decide to go for an iBook or Powerbook then make sure you get a good deal of RAM.

I have 1GB of RAM in my 1.8Ghz 20" iMac and it runs like a dream. I have owned sooo many PCs over the years and I would never buy another windows system again.

Arichards
03-23-2006, 10:39 PM
So what would one do? Buy the G5 or wait for an intel?

I use a 17inch intel imac. It works wonderfully with everything I use it for. Granted I don't do much final cut work or anything that isn't unviersal. Those applications should be universal soon enough though. So I would actually opt for an intel imac. It's better suited towards the future. I am planning on using mine for as long as I can before it eventually is completely outdated.

But the decision is really up to you. Good luck with it.

Oh, by the way, I heard the g5's tend to be much louder than their intel counter-parts. My fan rarely goes on, even when I'm runnning a game or have a ton of windows open.

Well thats my opinion. Good luck.

Arichards
03-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Correct everything will be universal which means it will run on Intel and Power PC models. Your post implies that Universal appas are Intel only.

No I believes his post intends to say that the intel's will have a much greater speed advantage over the g5's because they will support the intel processors... Some of which are duel core depending on model and configurations.

delboywww
03-24-2006, 04:09 AM
Thanks John,

I have already got the G5 and was just thinking of having a laptop too !
and the ibook looks tempting. Thanks for your input.

ARichards, thanks for your views. I really opted for the G5 as it was 250 cheaper and does the same job. The slight speed difference won't make any difference for what I am going to use it for and after what I have been using up to now, would not notice anyway.
If I was a proffessional using it for work then I probably would have waited for the revA Intel.
I just hope that Apple will support the older models after the warranty has run out.

After my old PC running on Windows 98se its like driving a Rolls Royce in comparison !.
Cheers
Del

digital john
03-24-2006, 01:37 PM
Thanks John,

I have already got the G5 and was just thinking of having a laptop too !
and the ibook looks tempting. Thanks for your input.

ARichards, thanks for your views. I really opted for the G5 as it was 250 cheaper and does the same job. The slight speed difference won't make any difference for what I am going to use it for and after what I have been using up to now, would not notice anyway.
If I was a proffessional using it for work then I probably would have waited for the revA Intel.
I just hope that Apple will support the older models after the warranty has run out.

After my old PC running on Windows 98se its like driving a Rolls Royce in comparison !.
Cheers
Del


Your welcome brother...if you have any other questions feel free to send me a pm. Yea I used to run windows 98...ugh....

delboywww
03-24-2006, 07:51 PM
Your welcome brother...if you have any other questions feel free to send me a pm. Yea I used to run windows 98...ugh....

Much appreciated John. I am sure I will need some more advice along the way getting back into Apple !

Regards
Del

ByzantineRemnant
09-07-2006, 03:14 PM
Now the new iMac is 64bit, just like our old friend the G5...
Pretty strange really...

digital john
09-07-2006, 05:28 PM
The iMac G5 has 64bit processing?

trpnmonkey41
09-07-2006, 05:32 PM
All the G5's were 64bit

digital john
09-07-2006, 08:31 PM
Wow how did I not know that....