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iserian
03-23-2010, 11:56 AM
For those who are Reserving - why choose this instead of Pre-Order and vice versa.

tiger roach
03-23-2010, 12:38 PM
I pre-ordered, because ordering stuff over the internet is generally how I roll. And if the alternative is wading through a mob at the Apple store, even more so.

the8thark
03-23-2010, 01:01 PM
Either way is ok. Just remember this.

"This is where you’ll pick up your iPad between 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m. on April 3."
I'm sure somewhere it said after 3pm it'll be on a first in best dressed basis. So if you can't get in to the store before 3pm better to order online I guess. But in saying that some people like ordering in person. I think each person is different.

Kash
03-23-2010, 01:48 PM
Like the others have said, it's up to personal preference. Do you want it delivered to your door (preorder) or do you want to pick it up at your local Apple Store (reserve) and walk out with all the suckers who didn't reserve theirs gazing at you in awe and envy? :P

iserian
03-23-2010, 02:17 PM
Sure - I'd like to avoid the crowded stores but I'd like to avoid the restocking fee even more. I still need to see the Ipad in person to get an idea for form factor and if this will in deed be able to replace my e-readers. I plan to hit the store late on launch day and make the decision 16, 32, 64 - or NO Ipad.

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 02:53 PM
Sure - I'd like to avoid the crowded stores but I'd like to avoid the restocking fee even more. I still need to see the Ipad in person to get an idea for form factor and if this will in deed be able to replace my e-readers. I plan to hit the store late on launch day and make the decision 16, 32, 64 - or NO Ipad.

So if you can't make up your mind about purchasing the iPad until you can see, feel, and use it (which is certainly understandable)...why are you asking about "reserving or pre-ordering"?

- Nick

iserian
03-23-2010, 03:33 PM
Valid question -

I'm curious as to how many are sure about the purchase sight unseen/touched vs how many people want/need to play with it a bit before purchasing. In general I do not purchase items that have a restocking fee but given that this one does (according to Apple store emp) I want to make sure this one fits the bill.

Initially I was all for just pre-ordering it and having it shipped to my door - but after deciding that all I really want is a color E-Reader more so for emag's than books (the color part that is) I don't want to get stuck with another tablet. I still have two slates from the tablet pc days and they work fine but the form factor is all wrong to replace my 1st gen Sony Ereader and 2nd Gen Kindle. I'm starting to get the feeling that the Ipad may also be all wrong (form factor wise...)



So if you can't make up your mind about purchasing the iPad until you can see, feel, and use it (which is certainly understandable)...why are you asking about "reserving or pre-ordering"?

- Nick

BadApple
03-23-2010, 03:39 PM
I pre ordered, the thing is i remember the MBA they were out of stock at stores for a week(base model) I also got mine a day before launch.
Hope lighting strikes twice:)
as for the sight unseen, I love Apple and would love anything they made.

The first launch of the iphone i only saw on TV, the door lady at ATT gave me the demo unit and i fell in love, I was buying one, ended up with 3 glad i had my son and his girl with me:)

iserian
03-23-2010, 04:01 PM
Good Point - after all its only $500 bucks :Evil: I'm not doubting that I'll very much like it but in this economy I'm trying to keep my wants and needs in check.


I pre ordered, the thing is i remember the MBA they were out of stock at stores for a week(base model) I also got mine a day before launch.
Hope lighting strikes twice:)
as for the sight unseen, I love Apple and would love anything they made.

The first launch of the iphone i only saw on TV, the door lady at ATT gave me the demo unit and i fell in love, I was buying one, ended up with 3 glad i had my son and his girl with me:)

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 04:10 PM
I'm curious as to how many are sure about the purchase sight unseen/touched vs how many people want/need to play with it a bit before purchasing.

There's really not quite as much risk here as you may think. The iPad is basically a BIG iPod Touch (which has been written about many many times in the press).

So if you like the iPod Touch...you will most likely like the iPad!:)

- Nick

iserian
03-23-2010, 04:44 PM
I'm hoping that I'll know it when I see it or actually feel it. If it can replace my current ereaders then I'm game if its too big/ too heavy to hold for long periods of time then it may not fit the bill. My concerns relate to Form Factor - the Touch has an ideal form factor but screen is too small to make it a good ereader IMO.


There's really not quite as much risk here as you may think. The iPad is basically a BIG iPod Touch (which has been written about many many times in the press).

So if you like the iPod Touch...you will most likely like the iPad!:)

- Nick

Kash
03-23-2010, 05:58 PM
Think of it as a stiff magazine. It's about the same size and weight, so if you can handle that then you're good to go.

iserian
03-23-2010, 06:16 PM
If that was true I would have no doubt the Ipad would fit the bill.

Unfortunately the Ipad weighs magnitudes more than a typical magazine or I should say typical of what I read.

Road & Track April 2010 weighs 7.9 ounces
Apple Ipad April 2010 weighs 1.5 pounds (0.68 kg) Wi-Fi model;

7.9 oz = 0.493749 lb


Think of it as a stiff magazine. It's about the same size and weight, so if you can handle that then you're good to go.

Kash
03-23-2010, 07:24 PM
Ok, so think of it as holding three copies of Road & Track, or maybe one copy of a bigger magazine like GQ

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 08:35 PM
Unfortunately the Ipad weighs magnitudes more than a typical magazine or I should say typical of what I read.


It sounds like you have plenty of concerns regarding the purchase of the iPad. Just wait until April 3rd...then check it out & see if it's right for you.

Just don't expect to walk out of the store on April 3rd with an iPad in hand! That's the price you pay for needing to see it, feel it, and play with it first.:(

- Nick

iserian
03-23-2010, 08:42 PM
On the contrary if Apple's reserve policy plays out as planned. Do a test drive in the store on the 3rd and if a GO walk out with the reserved 16, 32 or 64 - although I'm leaning towards the 16.

That was one of my initial concerns -- that if I'm going to buy a 1st gen I might as well have it on day one. Only draw back and it may be major is dealing with the crowds in the store on the 3rd.

It sounds like you have plenty of concerns regarding the purchase of the iPad. Just wait until April 3rd...then check it out & see if it's right for you.

Just don't expect to walk out of the store on April 3rd with an iPad in hand! That's the price you pay for needing to see it, feel it, and play with it first.:(

- Nick

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 09:03 PM
On the contrary if Apple's reserve policy plays out as planned. Do a test drive in the store on the 3rd and if a GO walk out with the reserved 16, 32 or 64 - although I'm leaning towards the 16.

That is certainly an option...and I sort of figured that is what you were going to do all along...I just didn't say anything.

Some folks might consider "reserving" an iPad...and then potentially not purchasing it...a bit "shady, sneaky, shifty, or dodgy".

Especially if iPads are in short supply initially...and someone else that really really wants one wasn't able to get one because a lot of people "reserved" them...and then didn't purchase them.

- Nick

iserian
03-23-2010, 09:11 PM
One must work within the system that they are provided. If like most things I buy that can be returned within 15 to 30 days w/out a restocking fee (some would call this a rip-off) I would have no problem buying w/out trying. In this case I'm not willing to rent the Ipad for 14 days at 50+ to find out its not "IT". In any event I would bet that the probability of me walking out with an Ipad on the third to be greater than 80% - Unless of course there is a supply problem and reserves are not provided to accommodate orders.

I have a feeling that anyone who wants one at 3:00 on the 3rd will have their pick.



That is certainly an option...and I sort of figured that is what you were going to do all along...I just didn't say anything.

Some folks might consider "reserving" an iPad...and then potentially not purchasing it...a bit "shady, sneaky, shifty, or dodgy".

Especially if iPads are in short supply initially...and someone else that really really wants one wasn't able to get one because a lot of people "reserved" them...and then didn't purchase them.

- Nick

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 09:31 PM
One must work within the system that they are provided. If like most things I buy that can be returned within 15 to 30 days w/out a restocking fee (some would call this a rip-off) I would have no problem buying w/out trying.

Apple's return policy seems to revolve around whether the box is opened or not. If the box is opened...then the restocking fee is applied.

Apple Sales and Refund Policy (http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/1618/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/salespolicies.html#topic-21)

Take note...Best Buy's return policy indicates that there is a "restocking fee" for opened notebook computers (15%, 14 days) and opened iPhones (10%).

BestBuy.com Help (http://www.bestbuy.com/olspage.jsp?type=page&contentId=1117177044087&id=cat12098)

...so Apple is not unique in this area for charging a restocking fee for opened electronic merchandise.

- Nick

BadApple
03-23-2010, 09:49 PM
I would wait and then go you seem not in a hurry for one so just wait, me I love my gadgets so have to order or my brain will nag me, so I always will buy sight unseen even when my first MBA ran me 3k:(

iserian
03-23-2010, 10:14 PM
"Aint" saying Apple is unique in their restocking feel but I am saying that I will never pay a restocking fee and in general avoid vendors who charge one. Best Buy would be one of the last places on earth that I'd buy anything electronic. Four Letters - F R Y S.

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 10:44 PM
"Aint" saying Apple is unique in their restocking feel but I am saying that I will never pay a restocking fee and in general avoid vendors who charge one. Best Buy would be one of the last places on earth that I'd buy anything electronic. Four Letters - F R Y S.

Before you think FRY's return policy doesn't have it's own limitations...check this out:

FRYS.com (http://www.frys.com/template/help/index/FE30/Service3/Assistance/Left_Topics/A6ReturningPurchases/#06)

No returns on some or all of the Apple, Compaq, HP, Intel, Mitsubishi, Sony, and Toshiba products sold by Fry's!

- Nick

iserian
03-23-2010, 10:52 PM
Yep - even the cool kids have limitations.

pigoo3
03-23-2010, 11:17 PM
Yep - even the cool kids have limitations.

Since we're talking about Apple products (specifically the new iPad)...again...Apple is not unique when it comes to the restocking fee. Best Buy has a restocking fee...and Fry's won't even accept a return of an Apple product!

So from your earlier posting:

"If like most things I buy that can be returned within 15 to 30 days w/out a restocking fee (some would call this a rip-off) I would have no problem buying w/out trying."

...when talking about Apple products, you pretty much run into the same return issues regardless of where the Apple product is purchased.

I totally agree with you. If you feel you need to see, feel, and use an iPad before buying it...hey no problem...you gotta do what you gotta do!:)

- Nick

Kash
03-24-2010, 01:30 AM
This is why persuade a friend to buy one and then you can play with it all you want. That's how I decided that the first iPhone was for me :)

fleurya
03-26-2010, 08:52 AM
I don't think reserving and not piling up is shady since another person can still buy it on day one if you don't.

I wish I had reserved instead of preorder, but I didn't even know it was an option. Never saw it on the website.

bobtomay
03-26-2010, 10:54 AM
Didn't see it, because it didn't actually ask if you wanted to reserve one.

When you click on buy, you have to choose the option to pick it up in store rather than have it shipped. You are then informed that you have one on reserve.

iserian
03-26-2010, 03:12 PM
It probably is not too late - you can always cancel your pre-order and reserve your choice.

I'm actually now leaning towards the pre-order method just to avoid the release day store "MESS" - Not 100% sure it will be a mess but now that I have done all the research that I can do I'm fairly confident that the Ipad will be a keeper for me.


I don't think reserving and not piling up is shady since another person can still buy it on day one if you don't.

I wish I had reserved instead of preorder, but I didn't even know it was an option. Never saw it on the website.

CanonicalKoi
03-28-2010, 03:30 PM
I reserved because FedEx delivery in our area is horrible. Boxes are (mostly) intact, but our delivery guy has a morbid fear of doorbells. If you don't hear him come down the driveway, you may find your package sort of on the porch or sort of in the carport or sort of wherever he chooses to leave it ("sort of" because it's never left entirely under cover, just wherever he could dump it the quickest). Since rain is far from unlikely here come April 3rd, I'd rather pick it up dry and in one piece. Besides, it'll be fun to see how many other loonies are in line besides me. :D

the8thark
03-28-2010, 03:59 PM
If you have pre-ordered your ipad I would suggest you be at home or have someone at home for you so they can pick up the ipad as it is being left at your door. If no one is home who knows, it just might go walking in someone elses hands. And I'm sure you would not want that.