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jonasmartin
03-13-2010, 04:43 AM
How many of you think that iPad will be more of a fad that a must-have gizmo?

TattooedMac
03-13-2010, 05:40 AM
Not me, because for some it will be a must have ... As you say it "gizmo"

This will be around for a long time to come, and as technology gets better and smaller, i would look out for the additions to it over the years.

bargsbeer
03-13-2010, 08:12 AM
I don't think it's a fade, But at the same time I don't think it's excitement about the release is the same as when a new iPhone is announced.

trapzilla2002
03-13-2010, 08:35 AM
I just pre-ordered the 32GB WiFi iPad, now here are my reasons:

1. I sold my Kindle DX on ebay for $395 (I really liked it for reading on the treadmill)
2. instead of taking my MBP with me on work trips, I can do everything with the iPad
3. iPad will be easier to watch movies in the plane if person in front of me reclines
4. taking work laptop and MBP was too heavy, this will lighten my load

I love Apple everything, so it wasn't too hard of a sell for me. Selling the Kindle was what made me actually made me do it.

I can't wait til 4/3!

bargsbeer
03-13-2010, 09:46 AM
I just pre-ordered the 32GB WiFi iPad, now here are my reasons:

1. I sold my Kindle DX on ebay for $395 (I really liked it for reading on the treadmill)
2. instead of taking my MBP with me on work trips, I can do everything with the iPad
3. iPad will be easier to watch movies in the plane if person in front of me reclines
4. taking work laptop and MBP was too heavy, this will lighten my load

I love Apple everything, so it wasn't too hard of a sell for me. Selling the Kindle was what made me actually made me do it.

I can't wait til 4/3!

In your situation it makes sense, traveler/business person who has a real use for the iPad. Don't get me wrong as far as e-readers go I think the iPad is a step ahead and I would be willing to bet that a lot of people will be selling their Kindles and various types of other e-readers on ebay.

bobtomay
03-13-2010, 10:01 AM
In your situation it makes sense, traveler/business person who has a real use for the iPad. Don't get me wrong as far as e-readers go I think the iPad is a step ahead and I would be willing to bet that a lot of people will be selling their Kindles and various types of other e-readers on ebay.

The market for them is going to be drastically reduced. Wish I had sold our Kindle already.

pigoo3
03-13-2010, 11:19 AM
The market for them is going to be drastically reduced. Wish I had sold our Kindle already.

Yes...unfortunately as soon as I saw the iPad announcement back in January...my first thought was..."Anyone with a Kindle better sell it ASAP!"

Apple even gave Kindle owners 60-90 days to sell them before the iPad hit the streets.;)

The Kindle is/was a fine device until the iPad was announced...but now its price-point is too high to be competitive. If the price of a Kindle was reduced to maybe $100...then they may survive.

- Nick

cwa107
03-13-2010, 11:36 AM
How many of these threads do we really need?

bobtomay
03-13-2010, 11:41 AM
Yep, and I paid $100 premium when I bought the one we have now during that time when Amazon couldn't keep up with demand during the Christmas season a couple years ago.


And just to add:


There do not exist any "must have" gizmo's.

I have friend's that do not have a TV or radio in their homes. I know many more that do not now, nor have they ever owned a computer and see absolutely no reason to have one. Add a great many more to that number that do not now, nor have ever owned a pda, mobile phone or mp3 player of any type.

bobtomay
03-13-2010, 11:42 AM
How many of these threads do we really need?

Think we had enough of them in the first week after it's announcement.

I'm just a glutton for punishment.

Voony
03-13-2010, 06:44 PM
How many of these threads do we really need?

I was wondering the exact same thing...

Nighthawk4
03-13-2010, 07:14 PM
Extra threads are a 'must have', even if they prove to be just a fad :D

Zito
03-13-2010, 09:19 PM
The iPad tablet form factor will replace the notebook in 5 to 7 years.

chas_m
03-13-2010, 10:05 PM
Irrational iPad haters are just a fad.

Slydude
03-13-2010, 10:49 PM
And just to add:

There do not exist any "must have" gizmo's.

I have friend's that do not have a TV or radio in their homes. I know many more that do not now, nor have they ever owned a computer and see absolutely no reason to have one. Add a great many more to that number that do not now, nor have ever owned a pda, mobile phone or mp3 player of any type.

Please keep this info on the QT as long as possible. I have spent a great deal of time/energy trying to convince my wife that these objects are necessary. lol

bobtomay
03-13-2010, 10:57 PM
Please keep this info on the QT as long as possible. I have spent a great deal of time/energy trying to convince my wife that these objects are necessary. lol

I promise not to say it aloud. My wife is sitting right over there on the couch and I've already ordered my 64 GB iPad. :Evil:

RavingMac
03-13-2010, 11:37 PM
It may be a fad, but I've already purchased the X-Men, Spiderman and Ironman Comic book DvD sets in anticipation of my 64gb 3g model. ;D Was originally going to have the 32bg version, but the wife didn't want to wait so we ended up ordering two.

kbOx
03-13-2010, 11:52 PM
I dont think its a fad, but its not the second coming of christ either. People have previously shown they aren't interested in tablets so the only redeeming feature this time is the app store. it's success, if it has any, will be due to the app store.

Its said to fill the gap between the smartphone and the laptop. I'm not sure there is a gap that needs filling there though. Steve jobs called it the third device, to me it's more of a fifth wheel.

the8thark
03-14-2010, 12:00 AM
My personal question is I wonder how the ipad will affect future ipod touch sales. As really if they are roughly the same price as each other I can't see many people going for the touch. I know I would not buy a touch if the ipad was only a few $ more.

harryb2448
03-14-2010, 12:14 AM
It will just be a fad .. a billion dollar fad!!

kbOx
03-14-2010, 12:17 AM
My personal question is I wonder how the ipad will affect future ipod touch sales. As really if they are roughly the same price as each other I can't see many people going for the touch. I know I would not buy a touch if the ipad was only a few $ more.
A number of analysts have predicted the ipad will cannibalize ipod sales over the next two years. The touch definately.

baggss
03-14-2010, 12:22 AM
How many of you think that iPad will be more of a fad that a must-have gizmo?

It'll be a fad, just like that interweb thingy. People are losing interest in that everyday. Same with those iPody things, what the heck are those anyhow...?

Voony
03-14-2010, 01:01 AM
My personal question is I wonder how the ipad will affect future ipod touch sales. As really if they are roughly the same price as each other I can't see many people going for the touch. I know I would not buy a touch if the ipad was only a few $ more.

How would that be possible? People buying the iPod touch have probably different needs than people buying an iPad. These products are different.

Slydude
03-14-2010, 01:14 AM
I promise not to say it aloud. My wife is sitting right over there on the couch and I've already ordered my 64 GB iPad. :Evil:

Great minds think alike. Wf-Fi only or are you waiting for the 3G model like I am?

BadApple
03-14-2010, 01:22 AM
Yep just like the iPhone

kbOx
03-14-2010, 01:47 AM
Yep just like the iPhone
These kind of arguments don't make any sense, unless your premise is that apple, by definition, are infallible.

The iphone succeeded, and while there were doubters, it wasn't the ipad. If we look at history mobile phones were very popular, and that is where apple shines, By bringing out and exemplary example of a device which is already popular. Tablets are a different entity entirely, they have routinely been rejected by end users who have made it clear they like smartphones and laptops, but don't need anything inbetween..

so just because the iphone was popular it doesn't make sense to assume an entirely different device will also be popular simply because it's made by the same people.

Slydude
03-14-2010, 02:48 AM
You're right up to a point. There is a flip side though. There have been several times in consumer electronics where companies were able to introduce devices and then wait for the market to see the need. The VCR comes to mind. Very few people saw the need for those either but by the time they were replaced by DVD burners every house had one or more.

the8thark
03-14-2010, 07:08 AM
How would that be possible? People buying the iPod touch have probably different needs than people buying an iPad. These products are different.

Yes they are different. But their differences are minute at best. The only big difference is Ipad has bigger screen and some more apps. And touch has smaller screen/is more portable. That's the only real differences. So if you it's really up to what physical size you want your device I guess.

Do you want more screen real estate or more portability? And I'm assuming people would say the ipad is portable enough still with the bigger screen.

bobtomay
03-14-2010, 07:31 AM
Great minds think alike. Wf-Fi only or are you waiting for the 3G model like I am?

WiFi only here. My primary use will be at home, not a take it with me device. I've been awaiting a device similar to this in dimension and weight, I think ever since the Kindle hit the market.

I'm looking for a sit in the recliner, take it to bed, lounge in the sunroom, low heat replacement for a notebook in a size where I don't have to put on 2 pairs of glasses just to be able to read the thing.

There is possibly a competing device on it's way that looks very intriguing... but from a company that doesn't have a name for itself here in the U.S. - the Viliv S10 (http://www.myviliv.com/eng/product/s10.asp) and up for pre-order at Dynamism (http://www.dynamism.com/notebooks/viliv-s10-blade.shtml).

It'll be more the thickness and weight of a hardback book, instead of a magazine though. And currently advertising a starting price of $700, has a touch screen, but the low end offering has Win XP which doesn't support the touchscreen... what's up with that??? Six models of the S10 in the line up. Can only imagine where the price goes from there for the top of the line model.

chas_m
03-14-2010, 08:04 AM
WiFi only here. My primary use will be at home, not a take it with me device. I've been awaiting a device similar to this in dimension and weight

I actually think a LOT of people will keep the iPad mostly home-bound, bob. It seems very much like the logical thing to do with it. For example, you're watching TV sitting on the couch, and the commercials come on. You hit "Mute," pick up the iPad, it's on in an instant, you check your email.

You're done watching TV, getting ready for bed, maybe do a little reading before settling in. Again, on in a second, one click and you're right back where you left off on your book. You set the alarm on it and put it on the nightstand in "sleep" mode.

When it wakes you up the next morning, you can quickly check a few news sites, weather and traffic report, email and maybe even a game or two if you're feeling lazy before finally getting up. Maybe there's even an app that can control your coffee maker! :)

You take it with you to the kitchen, look up a recipe for banana bread so you can use those bananas, send it wirelessly to your printer, then shut it off before you head out to work.

Seems like a great "household internet device" that can be used in every room.

cwa107
03-14-2010, 10:23 AM
Seems like a great "household internet device" that can be used in every room.

Exactly - and that's what most of the geeks who hate it miss.

Tablets were summarily rejected by the market because they try to deliver the full "PC" experience in a form where it doesn't make sense. I do believe that people are looking for an instant-on, worry-free computing device that can do 99% of what 90% of consumers use computers for.

Marketed properly, I believe this thing could very much be the new iPod or iPhone.

Voony
03-14-2010, 11:54 AM
Exactly - and that's what most of the geeks who hate it miss.

Tablets were summarily rejected by the market because they try to deliver the full "PC" experience in a form where it doesn't make sense. I do believe that people are looking for an instant-on, worry-free computing device that can do 99% of what 90% of consumers use computers for.

Marketed properly, I believe this thing could very much be the new iPod or iPhone.

Products like the iPad clearly have their own niche.

gbtjom
03-14-2010, 01:01 PM
Exactly - and that's what most of the geeks who hate it miss.

Tablets were summarily rejected by the market because they try to deliver the full "PC" experience in a form where it doesn't make sense. I do believe that people are looking for an instant-on, worry-free computing device that can do 99% of what 90% of consumers use computers for.

Marketed properly, I believe this thing could very much be the new iPod or iPhone.

Good point about Tablet PC's. I have a tc4200 running XP and the only use for the stylus is to take notes. However, the thing really is too heavy for that. It's not like you have a real notebook in your hand....it just gives you the feeling you will drop it at any moment and if you did...it's toast.

Speaking of which, I was thinking of using the iPad taking note itself. Will there be a stylus you can use for that. I really want to bring my .pdf technical documents I have and write some notes in the side spaces. Will that be available....and actually saving the additions?

jom

Slydude
03-14-2010, 01:57 PM
You're right about the potential uses chas. I wasn't going to get one but my wife talked me into it. Right now I am having trouble syncing my Centro with the Mac and keeping the calendar up to date.

I'll likely be moving to the iPhone when my current contract is up. Hopefully I can figure out a way to get the most recent changes off of the Centro. I'll be taking the iPad to work for one of two reasons:
1. Clumsy fingers have trouble with data entry on the iPhone.
2. I can use iWorks to do some basic document editing without needing my MacBook.

That's also the reason for waiting for the 3G model. The powers that be are somewhat reluctant to allow outside devices on the network. With the 3G version I can transfer data that way if needed.

DarkestRitual
03-14-2010, 05:02 PM
Products like the iPad clearly have their own niche.

Yea, a niche that is occupied by 90% of consumers. That's a pretty big niche.

the8thark
03-14-2010, 08:53 PM
I just had a thought I would like to share.

The ipad is not as 1st gen as people make out. And I will state points as to why.

1. The mobile OS had been on the touch and iphone for ages. And they've done a lot of work perfecting it there. So the ipad OS will really be just an update or new version of the mobile OS already in existance. So the ipad OS really is tried and proven already.

2. Most app developers (Apple and 3rd party) already have experience with making apps for this portable OS for the touch/iphone. And I'm sure the ipad SDK will be very similar to the touch/iphone ones. So there's not that much new to learn there. So all the old skills can be transfered over. And they can start making quality ipad apps from the word go.

3. The hardware really is just a revision/upgrade of the touch/iphone. So it's just a big 'ol touch? Yes. But that's a really good thing. All the things they got right with the touch they bring to the ipad. And all the bad things they leave off. They only have to make sure the new Apple CPU and larger touch screen works. But integrating the software into the hardware so it all runs smoothly, already been done on the touch/iphone. So just a revision/update needed there.

4. Price point. Apple know already how people feel about the touch/iphone prices. And what they are willing to pay. And they used that knowledge to price their ipad. So just old research was used.

5. The world. Yes it's already shown to be popular. But business and other sectors already thought of unique ways to adapt the touch/iphone to their buisness/line of work and make their working lives easier. And that knowledge they can just very easily be transfered to the ipad.

6. Learning from your mistakes. Apple had a newton a long time ago and it worked to a point. I'd argue it was a semi flop. But still it's there. As is the touch/iphone. Many experiences Apple has learned from. And that is valuable knowledge Apple has used to make the ipad.

7. There is not much new to learn if you want to use the ipad. People with touch/iphone experiences (which is a lot of people) will just be at home on them. Cause it's the same OS basically. There is no 1st gen of an OS to learn about to learn to use. Sure people new to the whole Apple touch screen world will have to learn it. But at least they know it's already been tested on touch/iphone. And the same for the app store. Already been tested. So the same system can be just transfered to the ipad.

So this just makes the ipad, like an ipod touch V2.0. Yes but that's the beauty of it. It's like when the imacs got bigger screens or underwent a speed bump. Sure there would be new hardware issues to worry about. But 95% of everything else is just imoprted from the old model and updated to fit the new model.

So in a way it is a big ipod touch. But that's the beauty of it. It just works. And that's why I'm seriously looking at this product with a purchase mentatlity. Because in my mind it's not as Generation 1 as people think it is.

And this makes it the polar opposite of flop. That would be totally groovy and awesome :).

**********

[edit] Quite literally, the iPad is a computer that no one will regard as a computer.
I read that somewhere. And I agree 100%. No one calls a calculator a computer anymore. But technically it is still a computer. And I think the ipad will be the same. One day we'll have touch screen devices all over our houses and take them for granted as we do the intertnet today. And I think the touch/ipad is the start of this way of thinking.

Voony
03-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Yea, a niche that is occupied by 90% of consumers. That's a pretty big niche.

Uh?......

ImmortalBeloved
03-16-2010, 09:54 PM
It's a cool gadget to say the least but what's my motivation to buy one when I already have a MBP and an iphone? Why would I want to pay 30 more dollars a month so my ipad has wi-fi when I already pay for an iphone and internet for using my MBP at home? My 13 inch MBP is already small and easy to take places and it kicks butt. No thanks I don't need an ipad. Not to mention you buy a keyboard and a stand and you pretty much just made yourself a desktop with out the benefits of one. I am sorry but I don't get it. I guess if it's the only Apple product you decide to invest in then it would be cool.

joshbrez
03-16-2010, 11:42 PM
It's a cool gadget to say the least but what's my motivation to buy one when I already have a MBP and an iphone? Why would I want to pay 30 more dollars a month so my ipad has wi-fi when I already pay for an iphone and internet for using my MBP at home? My 13 inch MBP is already small and easy to take places and it kicks butt. No thanks I don't need an ipad. Not to mention you buy a keyboard and a stand and you pretty much just made yourself a desktop with out the benefits of one. I am sorry but I don't get it. I guess if it's the only Apple product you decide to invest in then it would be cool.

Okay, major thing wrong here - it does NOT cost $30 more a month to get Wi-Fi on your iPad. It costs nothing per month to have an iPad with Wi-Fi. There's only a monthly fee if you want 3G coverage, and that starts at $15 a month with no contract (i.e. pay as you go).

Now, the use case. You don't have a netbook, and since you have a 13" laptop you have no need for a netbook either. Therefore, the iPad's not for you. I on the other hand have a netbook, and I think Steve Jobs was absolutely right when he said that they aren't good at anything, other than being portable. I'll be replacing mine with an iPad ASAP.

RustProofCorn
03-17-2010, 12:26 AM
its going to be a fad if you ask me.
just like the iphone....[

RustProofCorn
03-17-2010, 12:31 AM
btw i am getting the wifi + 3g 32 gb fad version

the8thark
03-17-2010, 03:27 AM
I on the other hand have a netbook, and I think Steve Jobs was absolutely right when he said that they aren't good at anything, other than being portable.

I agree with you and Lord Jobs totally. Many netbooks I've used that are less than 2 years old have troubles with HD video streaming video and other basic things. But the ipad supposedly can do these things very well. And for the same price as a netbook, it's a no-brainer really.

fleurya
03-17-2010, 01:24 PM
When netbooks first came out I thought they were a complete joke and a fad. Why would anybody want something so underpowered and with such a small amount of memory? But that prediction turned out to be dead wrong. Turns out there are tons of people out there looking for a simple alternative to high-powered expensive computers. It really seems like the rise of netbooks and smartphones is what gave rebirth to the tablet idea.

I definitely don't see iPad hurting Touch sales significantly. They're different enough in feature and price to keep them separate. That's why I decided to be an early iPad adopter. The software is already proven, and I don't think Apple can do a major price drop because that would price it too close to the Touch


I just pre-ordered the 32GB WiFi iPad, now here are my reasons:

1. I sold my Kindle DX on ebay for $395 (I really liked it for reading on the treadmill)
2. instead of taking my MBP with me on work trips, I can do everything with the iPad
3. iPad will be easier to watch movies in the plane if person in front of me reclines
4. taking work laptop and MBP was too heavy, this will lighten my load

I love Apple everything, so it wasn't too hard of a sell for me. Selling the Kindle was what made me actually made me do it.

I can't wait til 4/3!


2, 3, and 4 are exactly what I'm excited about using the iPad for. I've been kicking around the idea of getting an MBA because carrying my MBP on trips is just too heavy and cumbersome for my light computing needs on the road. But the iPad pretty much fits my needs exactly. I'll probably also take it to the office for browsing in my spare time off the company computer and away from the eyes of Big Brother.

I'm also going to be using it around the house. Currently I have a 65" TV in my living room I barely use because I spend a lot of time at my desk browsing while watching a little 20" TV. I've used my MBP in front of the big TV soemtimes, but it's heavy, combersome, gets hot, and the battery runs out too fast.

I always wished someone would make a kind of touch screen only thin client I could connect to my home computer for remote use, but the iPad takes care of that and more! I'll probably even download one of those remote access apps so I can even access my home computer while in another part of the house, or across the country: basically giving me the power of my MBP in my iPad.

Can't wait for the 3rd!!

jonasmartin
03-21-2010, 11:32 AM
Wow, it was such a interesting discussion to read!! I have learnt more about iPad and its uses from this thread than any other source. Really thanks for all these information.

If you ask my view now, I think that iPad will not become a 'must have' like a TV or a radio, but still to many it will be a item they will not leave their house without!!

p.s. sorry for the mistake :P

Voony
03-21-2010, 01:49 PM
its going to be a fad if you ask me.
just like the iphone....[

I would be interested to know how you are going to explain this statement.

Kash
03-21-2010, 02:36 PM
Wow, it was such a interesting discussion to read!! I have learnt more about iPad and its uses from this thread than any other source. Really thanks for all these information.

If you ask my view now, I think that iPad will not become a 'must have' like a TV or a radio, but still to many it will be a item they will not leave their house with!!

You mean without ;P


I would be interested to know how you are going to explain this statement.

He was being sarcastic

Strukt
03-21-2010, 03:15 PM
The iPad will probably be successful, but not for me.

Voony
03-21-2010, 03:58 PM
The iPad will probably be successful, but not for me.

That is an helpful input :D

ebeckert
03-21-2010, 04:40 PM
I just pre-ordered the 32GB WiFi iPad, now here are my reasons:

1. I sold my Kindle DX on ebay for $395 (I really liked it for reading on the treadmill)
2. instead of taking my MBP with me on work trips, I can do everything with the iPad
3. iPad will be easier to watch movies in the plane if person in front of me reclines
4. taking work laptop and MBP was too heavy, this will lighten my load

I love Apple everything, so it wasn't too hard of a sell for me. Selling the Kindle was what made me actually made me do it.

I can't wait til 4/3!

I couldn't agree more. I'm in the process of selling my Kindle 2 on eBay, and I will still make a decent profit off of it. I doubt the market will drop completely for the Kindle. Look at everyone on here who is anti-iPad.

And I can not stress enough how much 2 and 3 made the decision for me. For 3, I actually took a flight yesterday, and sitting in the cramped seat trying to watch a movie on my 13" MB when the person in front of me reclined was not fun.

For 2, I usually bring my laptop to school. I have a textbook online, so I find it safer to bring with just in case. Now, with the iPad, I can bring something lighter and use that instead. I won't be annoyed when I found out I brought my laptop with for nothing. And, with the addition of iWork, if I need to edit a paper, no problem.

My only complaint is that I ordered the 64gb iPad wifi+3G, so I have to wait a while to get my iPad. :'(

ezcompane
03-21-2010, 06:45 PM
I just pre-ordered the 32GB WiFi iPad, now here are my reasons:

1. I sold my Kindle DX on ebay for $395 (I really liked it for reading on the treadmill)
2. instead of taking my MBP with me on work trips, I can do everything with the iPad
3. iPad will be easier to watch movies in the plane if person in front of me reclines
4. taking work laptop and MBP was too heavy, this will lighten my load

I love Apple everything, so it wasn't too hard of a sell for me. Selling the Kindle was what made me actually made me do it.

I can't wait til 4/3!

Me too, while I don't do traveling for work I do plan on using the iPad as a go to gadget for many of my other devices which will now require me to only carry ONE device. I also predict many college students doing the same. This will be much easier on the back than a bigger laptop.

4phun
03-21-2010, 07:20 PM
Speaking of which, I was thinking of using the iPad taking note itself. Will there be a stylus you can use for that. I really want to bring my .pdf technical documents I have and write some notes in the side spaces. Will that be available....and actually saving the additions?

jom

Stylus - no, there is no need for one with a properly designed iPad app.

Pdf Editor as you describe - yes there is an iPad app for that.

PadNotes.
YouTube - PadNotes iPad app preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6nDbE1CK3o&feature=player_embedded)

fleurya
03-21-2010, 08:33 PM
Padnotes looks pretty good. Already takes care of a lot of the issues people brought up saying the iPad will be horrible for productivity. And the fact that people have barely had time to make apps and the iPad isn't even out yet means that it's only going to get a LOT better! :D

Voony
03-21-2010, 09:56 PM
I suppose you need a stylus to use Padnotes efficiently...

Michael415
03-31-2010, 01:53 AM
I suppose you need a stylus to use Padnotes efficiently...

I would completely agree with that. My finger isn't super tiny and for that much precision and writing it would be much more natural and accurate.

I am partially reserving judgment on the ipad to see what its final capabilities really are when the rubber hits the road so to speak. But from what I have seen I don't see how anyone actually working from the road could use this as a replacement to a MBP. Thinking of how much typing and PP I create on the fly it would seem very cumbersome to have to work that way.
I think my biggest stumbling block is how to classify this product and what its purpose. Its clearly not a computer in the traditional sense (not in a good way). Its even more crippled than a netbook. Is it an ereader, okay I could see that but wow seems way pricey for one.
I could totally see the use if it could do two primary things, allow me to share and edit docs on the desktop easily and most importantly multitask. Perhaps they have figured out a way I haven't seen yet on the import/export docs with iworks for the ipad. But the one that really leaves me scratching my head (and imho likely cripples its usability greatly) is no multitasking. I am not asking it to run excel, word, surf, itunes and adium but I don't think its unreasonable to ask it to run itunes and adium while I surf the web. This also greatly limits its ability to be a couch computer because while relaxing I surf and chat with friends. Throw on top no built in cam and even multitasking abilities aside its missing a basic feature found on the cheapest of netbooks. I don't think I am the only person who uses a computer like this and I think its partially the reason netbooks gained so much traction.
So I guess I am not apples intended market for this one, even though I usually am (young, educated, and comfortable fairly insulated income). But to be honest besides the kindle owners or college kids with online textbooks I don't know who is the intended market. Perhaps things have changed dramatically but when I was in college a few yrs ago an ipad would of paid for lots of ramen.
Please don't take this post as apple hating. I own many of their products and am genuinely trying to understand why so many on this forum are so excited about this product.

dtravis7
03-31-2010, 02:22 AM
Do remember one thing and I am not jumping on your post. The iPad is not billed as a Laptop replacement but an in between the iPhone and a Laptop. If you need everything a Laptop can do and are going to do extended typing on the road, then to me a Laptop would still be needed. It really depends on the user and what they do.

Like you said though, lets wait till it's released and in the hands of the public for a while.

kbOx
03-31-2010, 03:27 AM
Travis, i'm not sure there is a gap between laptops and smartphones that needs filling. I have a feeling it's going to be apples zune. Once the initial hype and frenzy buying dies down and the realisation that people generally dont read enough books to make buying a $500 ebook reader worth while sets in i wouldn't be surprised if we find very few average users owning one and those who do own one hardly ever using it.

It's limited uses are evidenced by normal users talking about nothing but the book store and analysts talking about how it will be great for watching movies on a flight, as if everyone spends half their life jetting around the planet while craving a dose of Ave ventura - pet detective.

dtravis7
03-31-2010, 03:33 AM
What I said was exactly what Jobs said about the iPad and where it comes into the picture. That is Apples own words about what the iPad is. In between.

Also no Ebook reader has a word processor, Spreadsheet, Internet, Web, Mail, Chat and all the iPad will do.

kbOx
03-31-2010, 03:46 AM
What I said was exactly what Jobs said about the iPad and where it comes into the picture. That is Apples own words about what the iPad is. In between.
Yeah, they called it "the third device". It seems like more of a fifth wheel though.


Also no Ebook reader has a word processor, Spreadsheet, Internet, Web, Mail, Chat and all the iPad will do.
I'm just going by what those who love it say they are going to use it for. Which is apparently read books on it and watch movies on planes. I'm sure most people wont be doing much word processing on it, most people don't do much word processing anyway, and as for email and chat, well the smartphone excels at that kind of thing.

If people are getting an ipad they almost certainly already have a laptop and a smartphone and i can't think of a single thing which the ipad could do better than either of those. Unless of course you suddenly get the urge to do only one thing at a time.

dtravis7
03-31-2010, 04:15 AM
Do know that multitasking is coming in the next release of iPhone OS. At least that is what everyone seem to be saying.

For a lot of things the screen size of the touch and iPhone is way too small. The screen on the iPad will make a large different for those uses.

Michael415
03-31-2010, 12:37 PM
Yeah, they called it "the third device". It seems like more of a fifth wheel though.


I'm just going by what those who love it say they are going to use it for. Which is apparently read books on it and watch movies on planes. I'm sure most people wont be doing much word processing on it, most people don't do much word processing anyway, and as for email and chat, well the smartphone excels at that kind of thing.

If people are getting an ipad they almost certainly already have a laptop and a smartphone and i can't think of a single thing which the ipad could do better than either of those. Unless of course you suddenly get the urge to do only one thing at a time.

I can see using it on planes. The battery life is great and would certainly outlast my 15 inch MBP. But this is somewhat negated by the fact that most flights (at least my experience lately) have had power connections at the seat so I can watch a movie with my MBPs bigger screen and still arrive with a full battery. I fall into the group kbox describes I already have the iphone and MBP and have a hard time justifying this product. So far the ipad looks like a jack of all trades but a master of none. It would only add weight to my bags.
I truly hope your right dtravis7 that in the next os update it ads multitasking as it seems the processor is able to handle several things at once. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

briloop
03-31-2010, 01:00 PM
Why would I want to pay 30 more dollars a month so my ipad has wi-fi when I already pay for an iphone and internet for using my MBP at home?
I know what you mean. AT&T is already gouging me $30 a month data plan on my iPhone, and $35 a month on my home Internet access. Why pay them another fee? That's why I won't buy an iPad with 3G.