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OSX 10.9 Mavericks . . . and ranting about the new Mac Pro because Van said so!!!

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The most interesting feature to me is multiple displays using AirPlay.

My 55in LG HDTV will nicely complement my MBP for photo editing. :D

Hadn't thought of that specific use but the demo did make men start to think about getting an Apple TV box. It would simplify a few things in my media setup. Now if they would release a server-type version of iTunes that would cinch the deal.

I am liking much of the performance features of the Mac Pro. The geek boy in me would miss tinkering with the insides but I have not done much of that with my last few machines.

My general philosophy has always been get the baddest beast you can afford and run the heck out of it for as long as possible. Unfortunately this beast may be a bit out of my budget range.
 
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I'm doing a little bit of catch up. ;)

So, I just noticed this now (yes, I completely missed all the announcements and I'm just catching up now) - flash storage? Really? I'm partially surprised given Apple's move to flash storage but why not a hybrid option or better yet, solid state drives? I realize that it was chosen for space, energy and potentially heat reasons but how do you justify a pro machine with no user removable storage? Other than that though, it's one amazingly spec'd machine.

Why would ssd be better than flash?
 
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Why would ssd be better than flash?

Mike, because you can change out the SSD and not the flash card thing that Apple uses UNLESS OWC offers something like they do for the Air.
 
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Mike, because you can change out the SSD and not the flash card thing that Apple uses UNLESS OWC offers something like they do for the Air.

This WILL happen. Shortly after release is my guess.
 
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This WILL happen. Shortly after release is my guess.

Oh I agree but you still are stuck with such a narrow selection of replacements! :D
 

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Oh I agree but you still are stuck with such a narrow selection of replacements! :D

Not only that, but expensive! Take a look at what OWC wants for the Flash Drive insertable card for the current Mac Pro. $$
 
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Not only that, but expensive! Take a look at what OWC wants for the Flash Drive insertable card for the current Mac Pro. $$

Oh for sure on that one! :D
 
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Oh I agree but you still are stuck with such a narrow selection of replacements! :D

Agreed they will be expensive, BUT again, with such power, why or what would you want to tinker with in the New Mac Pro, With 40Gb/s transfer speeds, i would be happy with it the way it is, with a Terabyte beside me to backup to, and use back and forth . . . If i had the $ i would by as is, with a BackUp Array of ? Numbers of Disks . . .
I really can't see why people are bumming it at the new MP, and i reckon the true Professionals will be jumping at them when they come out and will sell better than the current one, because they can see the potential of the power this machine outputs :)

EDIT : Out of ALL the things in WWDC 2013, i think this is the only thing they got 100% right
 
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I use external monitor in conjunction with the MBP 13. I also watch rented movies from iTunes through my HDTV. Having the ability for full screen apps on each display is awesome. And to move them around between displays is worth the upgrade just for that.
 
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10.9 offers some things I like but as usual I really hate to speculate until I have had hands on.
The MP doesn't do much for eye candy but the specs sure look mean.
I want the new features in iOS7 now!
 

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The MP doesn't do much for eye candy but the specs sure look mean.
They sure do. However, Ars offers up an interesting critical look at the machine as a power users tool (indeed, what it was designed to do). The essence of it is simply that it's a monster of a machine right now but since it's not upgradeable or customizable (he goes into why offering an Nvidia option would be a smart choice which isn't something I hadn't even considered), it could be limited in its longevity. Who knows how the after market third party providers will accommodate this though.

That review brings up an interesting point - part of the truly powerful functionality is limited by the software. OS X 10.9 brings in some nice OpenGL improvements but he points out the driver issues (I imagine that Apple will address those however). This is the major argument behind his lack of an Nvidia option - many high end content creation applications make use of CUDA (Nvidia's parallel computing architecture for their GPUs) which will be unavailable to the AMD cards. Although AMD and Apple have their own counterpart, they aren't interoperable which may preclude certain operations from working on thew Mac Pro. However, I've reached the extent of my knowledge in this area so I'll let the experts speak to how this may or may not be an issue.
 
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I use external monitor in conjunction with the MBP 13. I also watch rented movies from iTunes through my HDTV. Having the ability for full screen apps on each display is awesome. And to move them around between displays is worth the upgrade just for that.

I can't believe how long I've/we've been waiting for true multi-display from OS X. I remember posting on here back in 2009 about how there wasn't true recognition of multi-display configurations, and that the windows functioned essentially as a stretched map of the desktop. Then with Lion/Mountain Lion full screen apps completely befuddled how fullscreen on each display would work, with some companies including workarounds because the fullscreen icon would blank out the second display (VLC comes to mind).

I can take or leave a lot of the other features included, but fixing the workable dynamics of fullscreen workflow makes me eager to install 10.9!

My days of AutoCAD, Adobe, and Rhino3D will be made so much easier now.
 

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Me too. I have also been waiting for a tagging function similar to what was described during the keynote. Hopefully that will work without getting in the way.

For the last few releases I have throated to bite the bullet and pay the costs needed to get in on the developer releases.
 
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Mavericks? No no no, I'm keeping the cat names. Henceforth, I will refer to Mavericks as...

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Mavericks? No no no, I'm keeping the cat names. Henceforth, I will refer to Mavericks as...

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That looks pretty legit. XD
 
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One thing that would make me upgrade to Mavericks immediately...

... FONT SCALING ...

So I can use my 27" hi res screen at it's native resolution without needing a lookup glass to see those darned small letters..
 
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Did they ever use OS Bobcat?
 

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Not on the final releases. I think there was some speculation at one time that it had been used as an internal "pre-release: name for one of the versions. Here's the list of names so far:

5.1 Public Beta: "Kodiak"
5.2 Version 10.0: "Cheetah"
5.3 Version 10.1: "Puma"
5.4 Version 10.2: "Jaguar"
5.5 Version 10.3: "Panther"
5.6 Version 10.4: "Tiger"
5.7 Version 10.5: "Leopard"
5.8 Version 10.6: "Snow Leopard"
5.9 Version 10.7: "Lion"
5.10 Version 10.8: "Mountain Lion"
5.11 Version 10.9: "Mavericks"

OS X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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OSX name

I liked the idea of calling it Sabretooth
 

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