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    New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
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    Question New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
    The new MacBook Air (2018) powers up when you open the lid or press any key or the trackpad. The terminal nvram command still works to disable power-on when raising the lid but it doesn't stop power on when pressing any key or the trackpad. I only want power-on when I press the power key; is there a secret new terminal command that will enable this for the new MacBook Air? I'd like to be able to clean my MacBook without the machine turning on.

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    I believe this is how the new Notebooks work. If you have any of them powered off, opening the lid or clicking on keys powers them on. This is by design.
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    New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
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    Just to verify what's happening. Prior to touching anything...is this MacBook Air in a "shut-down" state or is it "sleeping"?

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    Key question. Our response depends on your answer.


    I suspect that things are working as they should, but need confirmation of your Mac’s status as requested by Nick.

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    New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
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    We had another discussion about this a few weeks ago, Prevent Powering On 2018 MacBook Air Via Keypress

    Maybe they found a solution?
    -- Bob --
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    New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
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    Quote Originally Posted by pigoo3 View Post
    Just to verify what's happening. Prior to touching anything...is this MacBook Air in a "shut-down" state or is it "sleeping"?

    - Nick

    I can't believe that Apple would enable such a "feature" or they just goofed up (spelt with a capitol F), but it seems it doesn't matter what state the MB Air is in:
    Additionally, MacBook Pro (2018) and MacBook Air (Retina, 13-inch, 2018) turn on when you press any key on the keyboard or press the trackpad.
    NOTE TO APPLE: That's stupid IMHO!!! And I can't believe I don't see many complaining about it, or I just cannot find any such posts anywhere with my google searches.

    Gheese!!!



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    Bear in mind, Patrick, that the OP has not got back to us with the information we asked; namely is the Mac in sleep mode where this would be the normal and correct response - or is it shut down where it wouldn’t be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWT View Post
    Bear in mind, Patrick, that the OP has not got back to us with the information we asked; namely is the Mac in sleep mode where this would be the normal and correct response - or is it shut down where it wouldn’t be.

    Ian
    Actually, according to the quote Patrick posted (it's from Apple: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201150), this indeed would be the correct response to any keystroke (i.e. power on, not just wake from sleep). And I agree with Patrick that this is quite an odd setup, especially if there's no UI option to control it.

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    I guess Apple is trying to get everyone used to using a login password, just as they do with Passcodes, for iOS devices. If you do not use a login password, you open yourself up to a world of difficulty.
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    New MacBook Air powers up when you press any key or the trackpad
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    Bob, not sure how passwords come into this. The MBA will power on, password or not, when the case is opened or any key pressed. If, in fact, the MBA now turn on with just a key press on any key, even if powered off, then maybe what Apple is trying to accomplish is to have the machine "instantly" available to the user. Open the case, voila! it's running. Press any key, bingo, it's there. Basically, it's another step on the "computer as an appliance" trail. You don't have a power switch on the oven, or refrigerator, or microwave, you just press buttons and it works. So, no power key needed on MBA, just open it or press a key and it is there. Next up is the  Watch approach of "always on" where you don't even have the option to power it off. I'm ok with it as long as the battery life is reasonable. Think of this: You have an MBA (or even MBP) with "always on" and facial recognition. You want to use it, so you open the case, the screen lights up, the camera looks to see that it's you and, Boom! you are operating. Nice!
    Jake

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    If, in fact, the MBA now turn on with just a key press on any key, even if powered off, then maybe what Apple is trying to accomplish is to have the machine "instantly" available to the user.

    After sleeping on this new Laptop "wake" Apple feature and giving it a bit of thought, actually it makes a fair bit of sense. Especially consideringIf one is going to be opening the cover, then one is probably going to be using the laptop and a press on a key or keypad saves hunting for the power switch, which at least they didn't hide on the back on the laptops!!!

    And at least they finally gave a sentenceIn their support article that the behavior was intended.

    I guess for those with those affected models who don't like the feature can try and learn not to touch the keyboard or Keypad when they open the lid and maybe let Apple know they're not a happy camper with the feature. Or at least without an option to turn it off. And that lacking option really surprises me, or maybe they have just hidden it somewhere which seems to be their new method lately.


    I guess the good news is they now don't get what could have been an embarrassing Startup Sound:
    https://youtu.be/Mt1bgsvsWms







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    Quote Originally Posted by MacInWin View Post
    Bob, not sure how passwords come into this. The MBA will power on, password or not, when the case is opened or any key pressed. If, in fact, the MBA now turn on with just a key press on any key, even if powered off, then maybe what Apple is trying to accomplish is to have the machine "instantly" available to the user. Open the case, voila! it's running. Press any key, bingo, it's there. Basically, it's another step on the "computer as an appliance" trail. You don't have a power switch on the oven, or refrigerator, or microwave, you just press buttons and it works. So, no power key needed on MBA, just open it or press a key and it is there. Next up is the  Watch approach of "always on" where you don't even have the option to power it off. I'm ok with it as long as the battery life is reasonable. Think of this: You have an MBA (or even MBP) with "always on" and facial recognition. You want to use it, so you open the case, the screen lights up, the camera looks to see that it's you and, Boom! you are operating. Nice!
    Just saying, if someone else gets access to the laptop, then all that information becomes theirs, IF, of course, there is no password/passcode.
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    @Patrick

    If I spoke in haste about how Macs should or did work and if it turns out that even with the Mac shut down, a keyboard click can open it, then I apologise. I don’t know of the latest changes in the 2018 Notebooks. I may be in a minority, but I don’t see this as an advance.

    We still await a response from the OP, of course.

    Ian
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    Bob, you are absolutely correct. Even more reason to have a good password in place.
    Jake

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    Agreed. And agreed again. If this is how things are on the newest Mac Notebooks, then a lot of people are going to find themselves in potential trouble.

    Well done,Bob, Patrick and Jake.

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