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I want to buy a new 13" laptop MacBook Pro and I have a question. I noticed that all new types have only either 128SSD GB or 256SSD GB. The one I owe now was bought in 2011 and it has 750 GB Sata Disk. Has SSD more volume (it packs more)? or nowadays you simply need an external drive? I do a lot of pictures and videos which now I am able to keep on my laptop, which is very convenient.

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No, SSD are extremely fast. If you need storage space, you will have to use external drives.
 
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New 13" MB Pro's come with SSD storage up to 2TB but it will cost you. I like a minimum of 256GB in an SSD but I also have external drives for all my data as well as cloud storage. I don't use my MB Pro as a work computer so I don't tend to need large amounts of storage.

The speed of an SSD is great for video and photo work and I would recommend at least a 500GB SSD. You will see a big difference from you 2011. You will need external drives for storage too.

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Has SSD more volume (it packs more)? or nowadays you simply need an external drive? I do a lot of pictures and videos which now I am able to keep on my laptop, which is very convenient.

No, there is no difference in the way SSD's work in practice vs. rotating disk hard drives. SSD's are popular because of their performance, small form factor, and resistance to shock. But the trade-off is that they are relatively expensive for a given storage capacity.

SSD's have started coming down in price precipitously recently. Some examples:

SanDisk 1TB Ultra 3D NAND SATA III SSD - 2.5-inch Solid State Drive - SDSSDH3-1T00-G25
$140 with free shipping
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KGRXRG/?tag=macforums0e4-20

Micron 1100 Series 2.5" 2TB SATA III 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive for $276
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=9SIA9946YU0058

Not long ago this SSD cost over $10,000. Now you can get a 7.6TB SSD for $1280:
https://serverpartdeals.com/micron-...MIjJH46O603gIVVOd3Ch2EQA59EAkYASABEgIq6_D_BwE

However, in the case of an Apple laptop, there is a big problem with hoping to take advantage of these falling prices. Instead of using the standard form factor for SSD's (a 2.5-inch card), Apple likes to solder the raw chips to the motherboard. So you are limited to what Apple is offering you, at Apple's price, and you can't upgrade later.

The solution is to get the bare minimum size SSD in your laptop that you can use comfortably, and offload the bulk of your data onto a tiny and inexpensive rotating disk hard drive that you can fit in your pocket, such as:

Toshiba Canvio Premium 3TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0, Silver (HDTW230XS3CA)
$87 with free shipping
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079HQM1CM/?tag=macforums0e4-20

These things are TINY. About 4"by 3". Easy to carry in a pocket or purse.
 
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The solution is to get the bare minimum size SSD in your laptop that you can use comfortably, and offload the bulk of your data onto a tiny and inexpensive rotating disk hard drive that you can fit in your pocket, such as:

One question with all of this is iCloud. Apple doesn't offer selective sync, so expect iCloud to immediately fill your laptop if you have more on iCloud than your hard drive. With Dropbox you can pick and choose folders but Apple is a bit behind when it comes to cloud sync. Not sure how that will all work when you have, say, a 128GB hard drive and 200GB of iCloud files and a 1TB external...will iCloud be happy being redirected? What if it's unplugged?

This sort of setup isn't really unusual any more...lots of people like me keep work files, etc. on cloud storage so it is in sync on their desktop, laptop, etc. Of course, if that isn't your mode, it may be irrelevant to you.

These things are TINY. About 4"by 3". Easy to carry in a pocket or purse.

You can also get external SSDs which give you a similar kind of trade off: size + speed for capacity. The Samsung T5 line is 2.3" x 3" which is even TINIER :) I have a slightly larger T3 (2.91"x 2.28") and it works great.

Unfortunately, this strategy has other wrinkle: Apple's war on ports. Depending on your Macbook, you may find yourself carrying around either a USB-C hub or a Thunderbolt-to-USB adapter, which along with the USB cable itself and a case to hold it all in...starts to become work.

One slightly wackier alternative is wifi hard drives. Many different options, but they're essentially a wifi shell around a hard drive, so they appear as NAS storage (a share). Obviously not nearly as fast as something electrically connected but surprisingly versatile in group settings or when speed isn't paramount. There are also little media players which provide a wifi host (you connect to its SSD) and they come with various ports you can plus things into. E.g., something like the RAVPower FileHub Plus or the HooToo.

But yeah, what you really want is a time machine to jump forward a few years down the SSD price/capacity curve.
 
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One more thing if you don't mind. I am searching through different models and am hesitating. Which one is the better option from the two? Quad core Intel Core i5 or Dual core Intel Core i7? At the apple store they told me two go for the Quad Core, but some of the refurbished ones offer sometimes 16GB + 512GB for the same price but they are dual core. What do you think? I will be using this computer for some movie editing, picture editing. Graphics too... like photoshop and illustrator etc.

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Definitely quad-core, for cpu intensive apps. Gaming, video, etc.
 
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One more thing if you don't mind. I am searching through different models and am hesitating. Which one is the better option from the two? Quad core Intel Core i5 or Dual core Intel Core i7? At the apple store they told me two go for the Quad Core, but some of the refurbished ones offer sometimes 16GB + 512GB for the same price but they are dual core. What do you think? I will be using this computer for some movie editing, picture editing. Graphics too... like photoshop and illustrator etc.

All things being equal, more cores are better for smp-friendly apps like Adobe's. And an i7 is better than an i5. But whether you need that much horsepower is another question.

I think the previous gen MBP had dual core i7s as an option. I can tell you that my early 2015 MBP (3.1Ghz i7 dual core) does Photoshop without any issues and I generally have a dozen or more files open, tons of layers, etc. That's with 16GB of RAM. I would definitely go with max RAM.

I don't use Illustrator, but often I have Outlook, Excel or Apple Numbers open, iTunes going, etc.

Again, sure, more is better. Why wouldn't it be? ;-)

Another consideration is how much "future proofing" you want to bake in...and if you even believe in future proofing.
 
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I am using Dropbox and external drive for data storage. The stock SSD of my MBP is only 128G, lol
 
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One more thing if you don't mind. I am searching through different models and am hesitating. Which one is the better option from the two? Quad core Intel Core i5 or Dual core Intel Core i7? At the apple store they told me two go for the Quad Core, but some of the refurbished ones offer sometimes 16GB + 512GB for the same price but they are dual core. What do you think? I will be using this computer for some movie editing, picture editing. Graphics too... like photoshop and illustrator etc.

That's a hard question to answer, because all i7's aren't faster that all i5's (some recent i5's are faster than older i7's), and because while having four cores might logically seem like it would provide better performance than having two cores, the reality is that the vast majority of programs use ONLY ONE CORE, no matter how many cores your CPU has. If a program is only accessing one core, then a slower overall processor with only two cores might easily offer better performance than an overall faster processor with four cores. (I hope that makes sense. In other words, what's important is how fast each individual core is, not how fast they all are in aggregate)

Now, on top of all that, if you are doing tasks that are graphics processor intensive (and it looks like you are), the speed, and maybe even the brand, of a computer model's GPU becomes important. You can usually count on a laptop (e.g. Macbook Pro) and a desktop (e.g. iMac) that have identical CPU's to not at all offer the same level of overall performance because the laptop will usually have a much more energy efficient, but slower, GPU.

Lest you feel too overcome by all this, you should know that just about any Macintosh released in the last 5 years should be powerful enough to do just about anything that you want to do on a personal computer. For the vast majority of folks, purchasing a personal computer by looking at its internal hardware specs is a thing of the past...they all perform well.

So, all that I can suggest is that you...

1) Have a look at this Macintosh benchmark Web site to give you a rough idea of each model's overall relative performance:
https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

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2) If you have something that you do that is very processor intensive (e.g. 3D graphics or using demanding Photoshop filters), and you are a professional who needs every last bit of power you can get, and you have one or more applications that are mission critical for you, I highly recommend that you contact the developers of those applications and see what sort of hardware they recommend that your Mac have for best performance. Those applications may also have discussion forums maintained by their developers where you can chat with others about this.
 

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