2nd HDD in MBP 13 mid 2010.

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Rather than continue to hijack the thread by Macoverload515 I will start this one. Sorry, I didn't realise how much of a hijaque it would be O:)

In the other thread I stated that I was going to get a 500 gig SSD, move the now system SSHD into the 'super drive' caddy and finish up with 2 HDs in my MBP13 mid 2010. At the same time upgrade from El Capitan to Sierra. Ordered on Monday and all the bits arrived yesterday,Wednesday!! The physical install was not a problem and everything just slotted in.

BUT! I booted up the machine and it booted from the El Cap SSHD straight away. I had expected to have to tell it where to boot from, but it recognised that the system disk is now in the old CD position. I then used 'Disk Utilities' and partitioned the SSD with one partition as it says in the instructions, inserted my USB stick with the Sierra install download. It's configured for the install. And started the install. It loaded OK and I selected the install and it went through the restart and started the install. Part way through it failed and gave the message

"Mac OS could not be installed on your computer.
An internal error has occured
Quit the installer to restart you computer and try again.

RESTART"

I tried again with the same result. This is what is shown to be on the SSD





I went back to Disk Utilities and did an erase and tried yet again, with the same result. I then ran the First Aid to the SSD and it ran clean, so I tried again, same result, a fail.

I have checked to make sure that Sierra will load on this machine and it comes up with OK, it's OK with Sierra.

Any ideas please folks???

I am still surprised that it boots up straight away from the SSHD in a different slot so to speak?
 
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On the advice from someone on here, I forget who, I have kept the downloads for both Yosemite and El Capitan on a couple of USB sticks. I wondered if there might be a problem with the download that I have for Sierra, so I decided to try the Le Capitan version. It loaded perfectly and now I have it loaded and ready to go. So there was no problem with the hardware I installed. At least for the moment I am going to stay with El Cap.

The old morals story about the train wheel tapper. He's the bloke that goes alond the side of the train and taps all the wheels with his hammer.

If they ring then the wheel os OK, if they sound dull then the wheel is cracked. He was 3/4 of the way down the train and had found over 50 cracked wheels before he realised that it was his hammer that was cracked :eek::eek:
 
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Yet another problem!! Now that I have the 'super drive' in a USB caddy it is not recognised by the MBP! I have found out that there is a fix, but I am not too sure just how to do it?

So if anyone could possible tell me how it's done then I would be very grateful. Single sylibals though please 'cause I get confused very easily!! :eek:
 
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All of the USB sticks are configures so as to be bootable installers. It was the Sierra USB stick that failed, but when I used the El Capitan USB it loaded OK. Then, when I tried to reload the Carbon Copy Cloner I screwed it up and finished up partitioning the SSD yet again.

I then realised that I had been really stupid and I have a CCC backup from 2 days ago. I had taken it before I did anything else. So I put mt brain cell in gear, deselected everything in the line of photos, videos, audio, etc. and did a CCC reload. Now I have a maching operating perfectly from the SSD with all of the pther folders and files on the 'old' SSHD. When I am sure that everything is truely OK I will take the system folders off of the SSHD and redirect my iTunes liberary to said SSHD and all should be well?

A question? Everyone calls the 'Alt' key the 'Option' key. I know that is what it used to be called, but my Macs are 2010 machines, 7 years old. People who are just getting into the enlightened feild of Macs have no idea what the 'Option' key is? So why the **** not call it the 'Alt' key?

It's even called that when you look at the Apple help pages. Here on your link BoB

"Reset the SMC on Mac notebook computers

Shut down your Mac.
Unplug the MagSafe or USB-C power adapter from your computer.
Using the built-in keyboard, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side of the keyboard, then press the power button at the same time. Hold these keys and the power button for 10 seconds."
 
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Macs have always called it the Option key, and lately include alt for converts. For the last four or five years Apple have branded the key with both names.

I always use the current version of MiskmakerX to make USB thumb drives and have yet to have a failure, touch wood.
 
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I have just tried the SMC reset but no difference. From what I have read there is a work around this and that the Apple super drive in not supposed to work with El Cap. The work around is so that the Apple techies can use a USB super drive in certain circumstances, but the work around I glanced at frightened me away, so if anyone knows a simple way around it I would be very grateful.

I use that drive for photo CD/DVDs to give to the organisers of our village walking group, village fetes, etc. and although I can still do so on our iMac it is just more conveinent on here, the MBP.

I have never had problems changing the OS before and have done so from Snow Leopard onwards and I have always used the same USB stick format. I have no idea what it's called but it has always worked. So it must be a case of a corrupted download/data? But I have decided and am quite happe on El Cap at the moment. Apart from the CD/DVD that is?
 
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Yet another problem!! Now that I have the 'super drive' in a USB caddy it is not recognised by the MBP! I have found out that there is a fix, but I am not too sure just how to do it?

So if anyone could possible tell me how it's done then I would be very grateful. Single sylibals though please 'cause I get confused very easily!! :eek:

I assume that any work around on the problem with a USB superdrive after it's beem removed from its internal slot to make way for a second internal HD isn't that simple?

As I said, I have read info on how to do it, but one was talking about using something called HexFiend. That's not something I would like to do without being 'hand held'. If/when I screwed it up I know that I can recover, but it's not something I really want to do. I have grey/white hair now and I don't want it to leave just yet!
 
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Idiot of the week here:Confused::Confused::'(

When I got the bits to fit the second HD there was a caddy for the new internal HD and one for the superdrive and no instructions. The superdrive caddy has one side with a nice smart label and the other is just plain silver, so the smart label is the top. Np it isn't, it's the bl++dy underside. So twit here was sliding the CD in label side up into the slot which was unside down.

I was looking through yet more info on the problem when I came across a statement that said 'ensure that the silver side is the top face' !!

Not I have the caddy the right way up an dthe CD is going in the correct way it works fine and apart from me there has not been a damed problem :Oops::Oops:

Thank you for all the suggestions though folks!
 
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OK, a couple of months on from fittind the SSD and moving the SHDD hybrid disk to the DVD supercaddy slot.

The MacBook Pro is running really well with no problems. I am still running El Capitan, partly because I like it and partly because occasionally I use a Wacom graphics pad with both pen and mouse and I don't think there are drivers for Sierra. There may well be but after the trouble I had going to Yosemite on our iMac I thought better of it.

So, the overall outcome is a faster boot and it takes a **** of a lot less time to open large programmes like PSE13. It's a shame that we have such a slow internet connection at about 1.5 meg at best. Still, it's better than the 850 bits/second we had when I first started with IBM!!

Now, if the prices drop quite a lot I would be interested in upping the memory from 8 to 16 gig. I read somewhere on here that it is possible? Too many wine tokens at the moment though?
 

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If I read things correctly there are some configurations of MacBook Pros of that vintage that could handle 16 GB. Check the info here. Match the model ID number to see how much memory your machine supports. A cursory look leads me to believe it is the 15" or larger models that can take 16 GB.
 
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That link states Model id 7.1 only and according to the Apple support site there were only 3 2010 models, 17, 15 and 13 and the 13s were Model id 7.1. So it looks as if it is OK? As I said, it's a bit too expensive at the moment, but at least now I know and to be totally sure I can contact either OWC or Crucial.



Ta for the info SD.
 

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You're right. I missed that the 13" had the 7.1 ID.

Unless you routinely have several applications open at once or use your Mac for memory intensive tasks I'm not sure you would notice a huge performance difference. I went from 8 to 16 GB on my iMac but only because I found a pretty good deal at OWC for the chips I needed.

Before buying additional memory Activity Monitor might give you a rough idea whether adding memory will help much. Try the following:

1. Reboot the Mac then Launch Activity Monitor (in the Utilities folder).
2. Make sure to click on the memory tab.
3. Now launch programs and go about your usual tasks. Keep an eye on the memory pressure graph. If it is routinely showing yellow or green then additional memory may be useful. See here for example.
 
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Ta for that info SD. I don't care wot anyone says, I think yer a real gent :Mischievous::Mischievous:

I'm trying to sort out the photos I have on my Synology NAS box at the moment and I should have done it ages ago, so now it's a sod of a job!:'(:'( I'll have a gander at the MBP shortly, ta again mate!
 

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Ta for that info SD. I don't care wot anyone says, I think yer a real gent :Mischievous::Mischievous:
You're welcome. Either you have an interesting definition of gent or I'm off my game.:Mischievous:

BTW not to hijack your thread but which Synology box do you have? Thinking of going the NAS route and that is one brand I've been reading about a bit. I've tried two other brands that were complete junk.
 
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Gent, short for gentleman a chivalrous, courteous, or honourable man. "he behaved throughout like a perfect gentleman"

( a man of good social position, especially one of wealth and leisure.
a man of noble birth attached to a royal household.
"a Gentleman of the Bedchamber")

2. a polite or formal way of referring to a man. "opposite her an old gentleman sat reading"

"a Gentleman of the Bedchamber" Now, that sounds interesting don't it?

It's a Synology DS212j. 2 X 2tb hdds configured to mirror each other. I had a failure of one of the hdds about 8 months after I got it. It was replaced under warranty. I slotted the new disk in, switched it on and it was rebuilt by the other in about a couple of hours and I had lost absolutely nowt. I really like it and with the higher software levels now it's quite quick enough for me. Having my own 'cloud' rings more bells for me too.
 

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I was taught to be a gent but often fall short of the mark. In other words just because I don't always behave like a gentleman doesn't mean my mother didn't try to teach me.

That is one of the models I was looking at. I've got several external hard drives of stuff in separate cases and would like to consolidate stuff a bit. I like the idea to be able to slot in a new drive when necessary. Both of the previous devices I tried did not make that possible. I lusted after the Drobo series but they really are out of my budget.
 
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When I was servicing the IBM AS400 series I was installing some of the first U.K. kit to do with RAID and mirroring and thought it a great idea, but never dreamed that I would be able to have it on my own system? But then again, the MBP is probably more powerful than the biggest AS400s that I worked on and certainly has more disk space by a factor of about 10 or more!

I don't know if you knew the AS400 at all, but when they stuffed data onto the disks they were very fast because they spread the data across all of the drives. They would chuck a load of 2k batches of data to each of the disk stack controllers and there were usually several controllers each with several disks. Then they would get on with what ever alse. It was quick because the slow job of writing to the disks was done by the controllers, not the main processor. BUT, the problem was that each file was spread across all of the disks and only the processor/system knew where it was, so if you had a disk fail then you lost ALL of your files. When RAID and mirroring came in it was possible to rebuild the data without a problem. Before that backups were a total necessity!

One of the things that I really like about a NAS box over external HDDs is the ability to access them remotely. All I have to do now is to fathom out just how the **** to do it ;D;D

Scary stuff for me!

One of my life long ambitions has to be to grow old disgracefully. So far I am not doing too bad and as long as I can do that without upsetting others I will strive to do my best O:)O:)

Anyway, this growing old disgracefully is tyring and it's time I was in bed..
 

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One of the things that I really like about a NAS box over external HDDs is the ability to access them remotely. All I have to do now is to fathom out just how the **** to do it ;D;D

Scary stuff for me!

One of my life long ambitions has to be to grow old disgracefully. So far I am not doing too bad and as long as I can do that without upsetting others I will strive to do my best O:)O:)

Anyway, this growing old disgracefully is tyring and it's time I was in bed..
I love that line. Although it is probably much more fun to grow up disgracefully while upsetting others.

I've never worked with that IBM though I have read a little bit about them. All of my experience has been as a consumer using various personal computer systems.
 
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Blimey! I must have been tyred as opposed to tired last night ;);) Just knick-knacked I suppose?
 

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