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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK
    I have no option but to replace my aging Macs. Both desktop and MB Pro are stuck with OS 10.6.8 and are fairly limited in their usefulness now. The cost of replacing both with new machines is eyewatering. I was wondering about going down the refurbished route but only from somewhere with a good reputation. Apple themselves never seem to have much to offer. Has anyone found a good reliable supplier of machines, must be UK based.
    Many thanks

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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK
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    Good evening, Konda.

    Only Apple offer genuine refurbished Macs. They are usually returned Macs with no faults or Macs that have been completely repaired and checked and are considered as "good as new" with a discounted price and the same warranty as brand new Macs.

    If you look elsewhere, you must understand the risk. They may or may not be refurbished, but to Apple standards and with Apple parts? And look at the warranty. Must include parts and labour for 12 months, as Apple does.

    Not saying that there aren't bargains to be had, but be careful and scrutinise the small print of their warranty.

    Ian
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    Just ignore — duplicate post. Sorry.





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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK

    What about the Macworld UK site and store??

    But I haven't checked what they might offer but I see their ads and specials occasionally and they seem to have a UK store. Or am I confusing then with some other UK Mac place???





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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK
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    Here is the results of a search I did for the UK Apple refurbished store: https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/refurbished/mac

    What is there varies every day, depending on what is in stock, so check back frequently until you see what you want (or close to it).
    Jake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    I have no option but to replace my aging Macs. Both desktop and MB Pro are stuck with OS 10.6.8 and are fairly limited in their usefulness now.
    I'm wondering in what way you find them "limited in their usefulness."

    I keep one Macintosh in my office running OS X 10.6, because it runs a couple of pieces of legacy software that didn't make it to be Intel-native, and hence require Rosetta, which was discontinued after OS X 10.6.

    But the machine is still incredibly useful for most things. It won't run the latest software, but it still runs most of the software that it ever has perfectly and with good performance if you perform some routine maintenance:

    Macintosh Routine Maintenance
    OS X Maintenance And Troubleshooting

    Safari under OS X 10.6 is now too buggy to rely on. While the only way to upgrade Safari would be to upgrade your OS, there are more modern versions of Firefox available (which are older than the most current version) that are both fully compatible with OS X 10.6, and which support HTML 5 and other modern technologies.

    Firefox (48.0.2) (free)
    <https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/48.0.2/>
    is the last version of Firefox that runs under OS X 10.6. It's an excellent choice.

    An old Mac might be slowing down or getting flaky because it's rotating disk hard drive is on its last legs. You can easily replace that hard drive, and drastically improve your old Mac's performance, by replacing it with a SSD. SSD's have recently come down quite a bit in price. e.g.:

    SanDisk 1TB Ultra 3D NAND SATA III SSD - 2.5-inch Solid State Drive - SDSSDH3-1T00-G25
    $140 with free shipping
    https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra.../dp/B071KGRXRG

    So, unless you badly need to run a version of some software that won't run under OS X 10.6, you can extend the life and performance of your old Mac pretty cheaply.
    Randy B. Singer
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    Thanks all for the helpful advice. I must admit I would be slightly uneasy about taking a chance on a non Apple refurbed product. I am sure there are some genuinely decent companies out there, but from what I have looked at so far, for a little bit extra I could buy new.
    To be fair, the desktop still works perfectly well. ItÂ’s just that more and more I have found certain things that for one reason or another I am unable to do. For example, some websites tell me that my browser is out of date and unsupported. Thunderbird wonÂ’t work anymore, sometimes video clips wonÂ’t play. I think also YouTube wonÂ’t work. Non are huge problems but are a bit frustrating and spoil my enjoyment. The hard drive is almost fulll to maximum and has 12 years worth of family photographs stored there, plus music in iTunes. I have it all backed up through Time Machine on an external 500Gb drive. I would be nervous to clear them from the hard drive and have them solely on the external drive. I suppose I would have plenty room with another larger SSD installed. Decisions, decisions!

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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK
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    Also, you said you are "stuck" with 10.6.8. Is that as far as your Macs can go? What models do you have? If you can upgrade, that may be a way to relieve some of the problems online.
    Jake

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    Both are Core Duo, around 2006 mark I think. As far as I know it’s not possible to upgrade any further than 10.6.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    Both are Core Duo, around 2006 mark I think. As far as I know it’s not possible to upgrade any further than 10.6.8.


    That Apple iMac "Core Duo" would be from the 2006 era and I'm surprised it's still running as I believe they were among the models that gave up working due to bad capacitors that many tried replacing with a replacement capacitor kit.
    You can see the full specs here:
    https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/index-imac.html


    I would normally agree with Randy's comments and older Macs, but having replaced an Core Duo iMac several years ago, I would make an exception with those models. Just saying... and not exactly one of Apple's better released models!!!





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    Refurbished Macs any recommendations UK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    I am sure there are some genuinely decent companies out there, but from what I have looked at so far, for a little bit extra I could buy new.
    What you mentioned is one of the biggest issues with buying a "used" Apple computer from online resellers. They add such a large upcharge to the price of the computer...that for just a little bit more you can buy new.

    Imagine going to an electronics auction...purchasing MacBook Pro's by the pallet-load...taking them back to your warehouse & shop...making sure they all work...tack on a serious upcharge (many times way above market value)...and making a lot of profit. These used computers are NOT the same as purchasing an Apple refurbished computer!!!

    I've many times seen the exact same computer model these online sellers are selling for 30-50% less on eBay (the true market value of a computer). And with eBay's strict return policies (usually favoring the buyer)...there's usually very little risk purchasing a used computer from eBay. As long as the computer purchased is examined carefully (specs of the computer match what the eBay auction description listed)...and the computer is "stress-tested" (use the computer in such a way as to test it fully).

    The one advantage the online resellers of used Apple computers have over eBay sellers are...many times they include a 30-60 day warranty. But many times with used computers purchased on eBay...if you check them out throughly when you first get them (and all is well)...then they will also be fine 30-60 days later when these short 30-60 day warranties from the resellers expire.

    My recommendation for purchasing computers is:

    - Purchase Apple New (if someone wants a brand new computer).
    - Purchase Apple refurbished (if the goal is to purchase a basically new computer at 15% or less than new & Apple has a model you want at the time you want to purchase).
    - Purchase via eBay (if ok with purchasing a used computer).
    - Purchase via online resellers (basically a used computer)...if really in a hurry or can't find the exact model/configuration on eBay. But expect to potentially pay a lot more.

    HTH,

    - Nick
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    - Computer seems slower than it used to? Read this for some slow computer tips: Speedup
    - Almost full hard drive? Some solutions. Out of Space
    - Apple Battery Info. Battery

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    Well maybe I have just been lucky with my iMac. It has never missed a beat or given cause for concern. It would be just like the thing if I was to spend a little money on it and fit a SSD and then another component dies. It owes me nothing considering how old it is. Same story with my Macbbook Pro which incidentally I bought used on eBay, it is from the same era, circa 2006. It weighs a ton, but I love the solidity of it. It too works fine but with the same limitations of the iMac.
    Sad to give up on them, they’re like old friends. Been trying to get Linux Mint to run on the MBP but am having problems burning the iso onto the memory stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    To be fair, the desktop still works perfectly well. ItÂ’s just that more and more I have found certain things that for one reason or another I am unable to do. For example, some websites tell me that my browser is out of date and unsupported. Thunderbird wonÂ’t work anymore, sometimes video clips wonÂ’t play. I think also YouTube wonÂ’t work. Non are huge problems but are a bit frustrating and spoil my enjoyment. The hard drive is almost fulll to maximum and has 12 years worth of family photographs stored there, plus music in iTunes. I have it all backed up through Time Machine on an external 500Gb drive. I would be nervous to clear them from the hard drive and have them solely on the external drive. I suppose I would have plenty room with another larger SSD installed. Decisions, decisions!
    Most of those things will be solved with the move to the version of Firefox I suggested.

    You can get video formats that Quicktime won't handle to play perfectly using:

    VLC (free)
    https://get.videolan.org/vlc/2.2.8/macosx/vlc-2.2.8.dmg

    You DO have to do something, and FAST, about a hard drive that is almost full. A hard drive that is approaching about 80% full or more can make your Mac run flaky, or even cause you to lose data:

    OS X Maintenance And Troubleshooting
    Item #5 and Note #1

    I'd reinstall the same version of Thunderbird, there is no reason that it should be running flaky under OS X 10.6. Or switch to Apple's Mail, which still runs perfectly under OS X 10.6.
    Randy B. Singer
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    I guess it would be downright silly to bin the machine without giving some heed to your advice. I have alright started to clear out some of the rubbish and excess data stored on the hard drive and give it room to breathe. Maybe move some of the less important stuff onto the external drive for now and clear them completely from the machines hard drive.
    Many thanks for the advice, it’s got to be worth a try. I’ll let you know how I fare.

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    Update:
    So far I have managed to slim down my hard drive from being almost full to having 106Gb available now. The computer does respond a bit quicker. I have run Yasu and cleared out some other stuff.
    On my HD I have still 19Gb of photos and ahem, 40Gb of music! Neither of which I access very often truth be told. Is it possible to store the iTunes music library on the external drive and refer iTunes to that location? Same question with the photos that I view in Lightroom? I would keep a second backup on some other media in case of a fault with the external drive sometime.
    I am using Firefox 48.0.2 and it seems ok. I used to like Thunderbird version 45.8.0 for email but I can not connect it to my Gmail account, are they incompatible now?
    Getting there!

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