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    Definitely go with the 27" if you can work it into the budget. You"ll love the 27" display!

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    iPhone XR, iMac 27 Retina 3.4, 8gb, iOS 10.14.2, iPad 9.7 IOS 12.1.
    Thanks Harry & Nick. I've been looking at the base 27, adding a 256 SSD & keyboard w/# pad. do like the # pad, being using it from the beginning of pc use.
    Kenny

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    I've spent some hours investigating a new Mac and, because of space limitations, have settled for a Mini with an i5 or i7 processor, using an existing Viewsonic 21" monitor, maybe an upsize later. An i7 with 16 Gb Ram and 256 Gb SSD is appealing, but will set me back NZ$2679, up from $1449 using minimum configuration of i3/8/128. "That's the way the money goes ...." Interestingly, although 4-core as opposed to 6, the i3 is in fact faster than the i7, but for gaming, which I intend trying more seriously, I think the latter would be superior.

    I have used a friend's 27" iMac, and honestly, it's a case of where do you look next? At close range, it's huge! Keep in mind 27" used to be the size of a tv screen which might be viewed from a distance up to 4 m. Have you considered a 24" screen with a Mini?
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    L2014 Mac mini macOS Mojave, iPhone 8+ iOS 12, 12.9" iPad Pro 1 iOS 12, Pencil 1
    @hughvane - I am using a 24” screen with my mini, and it’s about 24 - 28 inches back. Actually, I just hooked up a 24” LED TV to it as well.
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  5. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughvane View Post

    I have used a friend's 27" iMac, and honestly, it's a case of where do you look next? At close range, it's huge! Keep in mind 27" used to be the size of a tv screen which might be viewed from a distance up to 4 m. Have you considered a 24" screen with a Mini?
    I have been using a 24 for the past year on my win box and I believe the 27 won’t be to bad for viewing, eye’s aren’t what they use to be. lol
    Kenny

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    Thanks ferrarr and Kenny, I am now using a 24" Samsung monitor, just arrived today, and the old mid-2010 Mini is kicking it along just fine. I'm enjoying the larger size, albeit in width rather than height. If anybody else is wearing graduated lens spectacles, and has older eyes (all due respect to HarryB - cheers mate), the lower-set S'sung (vs the older Viewsonic) is a boon! Viewing distance is between 54 and 60 cm (~18-24"). New Mini arrives tomorrow (Tues), an i7 with the 6-core 3.2.
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    I have graduated lens' in one pair of glasses that I have and they drive me crazy when in front of my 27" iMac. I find myself having to tilt my head up and down to properly focus on the screen. I also have a special pair of glasses that have a focal distance of around 30 inches which is what I use instead.

    By the way, we call graduated lens glasses "no line bifocals" here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughvane View Post
    I'm enjoying the larger size, albeit in width rather than height. If anybody else is wearing graduated lens spectacles, and has older eyes (all due respect to HarryB - cheers mate), the lower-set S'sung (vs the older Viewsonic) is a boon! Viewing distance is between 54 and 60 cm (~18-24").
    My suggestion would be since viewing distance from the monitor is basically fixed...use a single prescription pair of reading glasses specifically when computing with your new larger monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    I have graduated lens' in one pair of glasses that I have and they drive me crazy when in front of my 27" iMac. I find myself having to tilt my head up and down to properly focus on the screen. By the way, we call graduated lens glasses "no line bifocals" here in the US.
    Sometimes I resemble one of those nodding head figurines one sees on car dashboards or on rear window ledges. My optometrist implores me to lower the screen to a line of sight approximately 35 below horizontal. I know I feel more comfortable using my laptop on a lower level work desk than with this Mini setup where mid-screen is about 10 below dead ahead. Not being a touch typist doesn't help either.

    Interesting that the US still uses 'bi' when referring to multi focal, because I'm told the minimum number of visual levels is three, ie. close, mid and long range. That said, there doesn't seem to be a gradual and imperceptible shift from one focal range to another.
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    Interesting that the US still uses 'bi' when referring to multi focal, because I'm told the minimum number of visual levels is three, ie. close, mid and long range. That said, there doesn't seem to be a gradual and imperceptible shift from one focal range to another.
    My glasses are actually as you say multi focal since they give me close vision, medium near vision, and far vision. Most optometrists here in the US now refer to those type of glasses as "progressive lens'". And by the way, they are much more expensive than the older type.

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    Have you ever put down your spectacles, wandered off to do whatever, and then forgotten where you left your visual essentials? Very trying.
    As a matter of fact I do this all the time. I use two pair of single prescription glasses...one pair for reading & computing (one strength)...and one pair for everything else (driving, yard work, watching TV, etc.)...a different strength.


    I have this "2-pair set" of glasses almost EVERYWHERE (bedroom, living room, kitchen, home office, etc.). And yes...they do occasionally get misplaced...lost...broken. Lol


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    Apologies Hugh. I messed up one of your posts above when replying. That's why it's missing.

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    I also have a special pair of glasses that have a focal distance of around 30 inches which is what I use instead.


    Actually a good pair of GLASS lens reading glasses from the local Drug Store/COSTCO Optical etc. of the correct magnification in the $20.00 - $40.00 price range (or less) work well for many, including myself.

    Similar plastic lenses can be cheaper but scratch very easily.





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  14. #29
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    Staples and Office Depot sell computer reading glasses which are designed to focus at various distances from your monitor. They have a small reading card which you can use to read from using different strength lens. I generally use either the 2.0 or 2.5 power. They also sell reading glasses that are tinted to cut down monitor glare. Those come in handy when viewing a 27" or 21.5" retina screen.

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    Goodness, MF could start a separate thread on Best Ways To View Your Monitor, subtitled Which Spectacles To Use. There's some very helpful material in this thread, particularly for we chronologically and visually challenged ones [would you believe I'm reading this at close quarters with my specs off?]
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