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    I would question that statement. The latest Mac Mini can come up with a pretty beefy CPU and enough RAM to do what needs to be done. The GPU also seems to be a match for the iMac, so not sure why it wouldn't handle the work that is being demanded of it.
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    Cooling solution for the Mac mini?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    I would not recommend you manually tweak the fans since it will automatically do what it necessary to control the heat. If you are going to constantly run it at a higher rates for longer periods of times, you risk damaging it and will end up with worse issues.

    And of course Apple sets the temperature and the fan speed to prolong the life of the Mac and of course they wouldn't want you to have to buy a new one sooner than expected — THEIR expected time!!!

    I have come across some users iMacs as well as our own, that ran so hot you could not keep your hand on the top left of the display just during normal use. The fan speed control software fixed that problem and I don't know of any user who has had to replace a fan in their iMac, and that even includes our own oldest 2007 24" iMac still gets used daily.

    BTW: Here's a older summary of fan life at different temperatures:
    Sintec sleeve: 45'000h @ 20oC; 15'000h @ 60oC
    Superflo: 50'000h @ 40oC
    Ball: 70'000h @ 40oC; 40'000h @ 25oC
    HydroWave: 50'000h @ 40oC
    Note: 1 year = 8766 hours.

    Quite a drastic difference I'd say.

    I'll go with running ours at a cooler temperature thanks, and especially when considering that heat is all electronics worst enemy for all components. I'd say Think Cooler!!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    I would question that statement. The latest Mac Mini can come up with a pretty beefy CPU and enough RAM to do what needs to be done. The GPU also seems to be a match for the iMac, so not sure why it wouldn't handle the work that is being demanded of it.
    Just assumed an older mini as his post said he was looking for a used model. The new minis are very capable and have come a long way, however the older ones are not designed for these tasks.
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    The new minis are very capable and have come a long way, however the older ones are not designed for these tasks.

    +1!! Both statements are very valid understatements!!

    At least from the new specs and the older Models experiences.





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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCL View Post
    Just assumed an older mini as his post said he was looking for a used model. The new minis are very capable and have come a long way, however the older ones are not designed for these tasks.
    Agreed, the older iteration of the Mac Mini's were just Core2Duo machines that can't handle any of this. However, those machines are also not able to run Mojave, thus my guess that the OP was going to purchase the current generation Mac Mini (either used or refurbished if new wasn't in the cards).
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    Cooling solution for the Mac mini?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCL View Post
    Just assumed an older mini as his post said he was looking for a used model. The new minis are very capable and have come a long way, however the older ones are not designed for these tasks.
    Hi John:

    Great to hear from you again! I see you updated your Mac specs.... lot of goodies there.

    Visit us more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chscag View Post
    Hi John:

    Great to hear from you again! I see you updated your Mac specs.... lot of goodies there.

    Visit us more often.

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    Charlie, thanks for reaching out. Great to be back!

    Good discounts make the toys possible :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz0rEdge View Post
    I would not recommend you manually tweak the fans since it will automatically do what it necessary to control the heat. If you are going to constantly run it at a higher rates for longer periods of times, you risk damaging it and will end up with worse issues.
    My experience and personal conclusion is that Apple compromises in their fan settings, and part of that compromise is that they tend to set their Mac's fans (in just about all models) to be on the quiet side, rather than on the cool side. As a result, many mini's and iMac's run disturbingly hot much of the time. Since excess heat can lead to nasty problems in a personal computer, I often advise users to adjust their fans so that their Mac's run cooler.

    I, and many of the folks I advise, have had excellent success with the following program, set to make the fans come on earlier and more aggressively in general. There have been no problems with fans wearing out prematurely, and the Macs in question seem to run better with no loss of reliability.:

    smcFanControl (free)
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    My experience and personal conclusion is that Apple compromises in their fan settings, and part of that compromise is that they tend to set their Mac's fans (in just about all models) to be on the quiet side, rather than on the cool side

    +1!!! I couldn't agree more, except that I now prefer and recommend Macs Fan Control.app that's also FREE but also has a 5 Star rating.
    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23049/smcfancontrol

    Anyway, I would also suggest and recommend using any of the alternatives, even if they cost a bit and suit the users needs.

    PS: I cannot remember why I gave up and stopped using smcFanControl, but Macs Fan Control suits us and works better for us and is used with all our Macs.





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    Cooling solution for the Mac mini?
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    From a mid-2010 Mini owner - I raise the unit slightly on either a synthetic rubber pad, or on two narrow lengths of bamboo, because some high-demand apps like games get the fan very agitated, especially on a hot day. Air movement beneath the aluminium casing does help. As you're probably aware, the hottest part of the unit is along the rear upper edge, and above the audio outlet in particular. Someone else has likely said it already, but be sure to keep that vent slot at the back clear of obstruction. If all else fails, purchase a small desk fan and direct cooling air on to the Mini.
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