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    Newbie: XCODE installation/download question

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    Newbie: XCODE installation/download question
    Hello:

    1st time poster, just beginning development w/Mac (OSX LION) tools.

    Briefly, I was windows developer/coder/engineer for 18 years, had my own shop for that time... made a living, and retirement on (apologies to the world...), windows. Shut down about 7 years ago. Got my first Mac about 8 months ago, as I realized now... as a user, well... Windows sucked. Investigated Mac (OSX), primarily for security issues, took the plunge. I had backround using NEXTSTEP tools in the early days, which is what suggested to me, to take a look at this stuff.

    I have, currently, only rudimentary knowledge of low level POSIX "stuff".

    Live in Albuquerue, 57 yrs old a very fit, life is gooood.

    Ok, that's my one and only intro.

    ...

    I am in process of choosing tools, to build a web site... highly technical. The game has 2 do with Kirtland Air Force Base here, which has "dropped" 24m gallons of Jet Fuel into our Aquifer. Nobody's talking about it, nobody want to know about it, and it threatens our future here, in very real ways.

    This project, then... is a web site, to communicate all the particulars of this to the public.

    Myself and a few others, have done a lot: amassed comprehensive data, can model this spill over time, predict it's "growth" in the future, know available remediation (cleanup) technologies, and those needing more research... now. Hired some exceptional 3-d scientific modelling folks, much of that work is close to being done in Java. Timelines, everything.

    So... now, I'm investigating tools, for the "big build". Willing to put in time burning midnight oil, to do this well.

    Looking (playing) with Ruby/RoR/Redmine (CMS). Trying to determine if tools in XCODE and AQUA would be a better choice. Just getting going on, that.

    Suggestions, comments appreciated.

    Q: I'm downlowding upgrade (for x'th time in last 24 hrs) to XCODE. There is no meter on my machine (that I'm aware), of % of download completed. I've looked in my \usr\(me)\download directory, don't see the file. I haven't been in one place long enough, to complete download (it's 1.5gb). So...

    - where is partial download stored?
    - is download incremental (does it resume, from previous incomplete state)?

    ...

    Lastly, technology has changed (improved) so much, since I hung up my spurs 7 yrs ago. Browser development, then, was just beginning in meaningful way. Sooo much more. I'm well caught up, but not completely. FWIW, our shop's production code, for years, was done in DELPHI. Looking at that product now, toooo many limitations to use it for this.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Newbie: XCODE installation/download question
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    To build websites (technical or not) you don't want or need Xcode. Xcode is the IDE used to primarily develop OS X and iOS applications. To develop a website, you can use programs like iWeb, RapidWeaver or code it entirely by hand in Ruby, PHP, HTML, JS, and so on using pretty much any editor you feel comfortable with..
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    Newbie: XCODE installation/download question

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    Ashwin: ROR requires XCODE. I'm updating my ruby gems, especially Postgres... it asked for XCODE update.

    AQUA has Web Dev tools. Hoping somebody here may be familiar w/'em. As I understand it, it's (eg: AQUA) largely reliant on XCODE libraries.

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    Aqua is not used for web development. I'm not sure who told you that but Aqua is a purely client side set of libraries (take a look here).

    If you're downloading Xcode to compile a few things for RoR, you might be able to get by with just the command line tools. Go here, login (if you don't have an account, make one) and search for the command line tools.
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    Newbie: XCODE installation/download question

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    Vansmith:

    no link in your "here", for cmd line tools. But... your suggestion useful, thx.

    Apple Developer now has them downloadable, here.

    There was a process, resulting in AD doing this, described here... I found this, illuminating. Also, recommended (read above link for explanation) to uninstall XCODE, prior to installing cmd line tools from AD.

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