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<blockquote data-quote="chas_m" data-source="post: 1489089"><p>Agreed. If you're going Android, I'd recommend the Nexus ones. That way you're much more likely to get timely updates.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You've been lucky. <a href="http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/10/15/loozfon.and.finfisher.cited.as.active.malware.concerns/" target="_blank">FBI warns Android users of malware app risk | Electronista</a></p><p></p><p>Google does what they can to prevent malware, but so far they've been about as successful as they have been in stopping spam -- a good effort, but not completely successful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good to hear that JB is a solid improvement. When I referred to "widgets" I was speaking metaphorically, ie the entire device. I've looked at Android widgets and can seem some use but mostly they just take up a lot of screen space unnecessarily to me -- for example the HUGE CLOCK on by default on most Android models. Do they think me blind, or just that the current time is much more important than, say, recent VIP emails? It's kinda weird to me (luckily you can customize that).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But surely this is one the MAIN USES of a tablet or smartphone?? That's like saying your car starts up great but is a little iffy when you start driving. That's not a great car IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have not experienced this at all since I learned (about two weeks after buying my first iOS device) that you need to ACTUALLY turn them off (not just sleep them) every couple of weeks. A lot of iOS device owners do not appear to know that you CAN turn them completely off. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fair point. Mine's in a thin case. I was just playing with an S III today and must again say I like what they've done with it given that its plastic. High-quality assembly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Android is definitely more customizable than iOS, a clear point in its favour for some -- but I do think most non-geek users don't really give a toss about that, and honestly I don't have the time for stuff like that. I value "work out of the box" over "I can, with sufficient skill and incantations, make it do anything I want." Not everybody feels the same way (see Van Smith).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All iOS browsers are, secretly, Safari (well, WebKit). Even the "Chrome" on iOS. I believe its a security requirement from Apple. Or EVIL as Van might say. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My friends who use Sparrow report no such issues, but I don't know from first-hand experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, that's not happening. Apple is about trying to get it right on the first try (not always succeeding, but always trying), not about what Wall Street pundits want.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't hate Android. I hate that Google stole it from Apple (without getting into a long discussion about it -- as someone who was around at the time, I agree with Steve Jobs' and Tim Cook's assessment of Android.) I also hate Motorola's and Google's VERY CLEAR abuse of FRAND and SEP rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They're crafty like that. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Another factor to consider: Google loses money LIKE CRAZY on Android. Of course, they can afford to -- but I have to wonder how long they will WANT to. The only people making money on Android are Microsoft and Samsung. Apple makes nearly 80 percent of ALL the profits in smartphones. It's hard to predict the future, but which of those two systems may require a rethink in a few years do you think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chas_m, post: 1489089"] Agreed. If you're going Android, I'd recommend the Nexus ones. That way you're much more likely to get timely updates. You've been lucky. [url=http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/10/15/loozfon.and.finfisher.cited.as.active.malware.concerns/]FBI warns Android users of malware app risk | Electronista[/url] Google does what they can to prevent malware, but so far they've been about as successful as they have been in stopping spam -- a good effort, but not completely successful. Good to hear that JB is a solid improvement. When I referred to "widgets" I was speaking metaphorically, ie the entire device. I've looked at Android widgets and can seem some use but mostly they just take up a lot of screen space unnecessarily to me -- for example the HUGE CLOCK on by default on most Android models. Do they think me blind, or just that the current time is much more important than, say, recent VIP emails? It's kinda weird to me (luckily you can customize that). But surely this is one the MAIN USES of a tablet or smartphone?? That's like saying your car starts up great but is a little iffy when you start driving. That's not a great car IMO. I have not experienced this at all since I learned (about two weeks after buying my first iOS device) that you need to ACTUALLY turn them off (not just sleep them) every couple of weeks. A lot of iOS device owners do not appear to know that you CAN turn them completely off. Fair point. Mine's in a thin case. I was just playing with an S III today and must again say I like what they've done with it given that its plastic. High-quality assembly. Android is definitely more customizable than iOS, a clear point in its favour for some -- but I do think most non-geek users don't really give a toss about that, and honestly I don't have the time for stuff like that. I value "work out of the box" over "I can, with sufficient skill and incantations, make it do anything I want." Not everybody feels the same way (see Van Smith). All iOS browsers are, secretly, Safari (well, WebKit). Even the "Chrome" on iOS. I believe its a security requirement from Apple. Or EVIL as Van might say. :) My friends who use Sparrow report no such issues, but I don't know from first-hand experience. Yeah, that's not happening. Apple is about trying to get it right on the first try (not always succeeding, but always trying), not about what Wall Street pundits want. I don't hate Android. I hate that Google stole it from Apple (without getting into a long discussion about it -- as someone who was around at the time, I agree with Steve Jobs' and Tim Cook's assessment of Android.) I also hate Motorola's and Google's VERY CLEAR abuse of FRAND and SEP rules. They're crafty like that. :) Another factor to consider: Google loses money LIKE CRAZY on Android. Of course, they can afford to -- but I have to wonder how long they will WANT to. The only people making money on Android are Microsoft and Samsung. Apple makes nearly 80 percent of ALL the profits in smartphones. It's hard to predict the future, but which of those two systems may require a rethink in a few years do you think? [/QUOTE]
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