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<blockquote data-quote="chas_m" data-source="post: 1488680"><p>Here's my problem with Android:</p><p></p><p>1. The carrier or manufacturer, not you, determines when and IF you are ever going to get updates. The Jelly Bean 4.1 update that was released in June was only *just* released to Samsung Galaxy users TODAY, seven months later (and they are still behind, and will likely never see 4.2 or later releases). That's NUTS in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>2. Greatly increased security risk. LOTS of malware and scamware and other badware for Android: no malware for iOS at all, incredibly low risk of scamware (unless you are an idiot who can't read, and you're obviously not).</p><p></p><p>3. This one is only relevant your situation: why on earth would you invest in apps on one system that can't be run on your other device?? Go all-Android or all-iOS on that front, or you are throwing your app money away. And only ONE of those two systems can run ALL the Apps in their app store on both devices ... and that's iOS, the one with the far larger selection of apps as well (and the one that gets everything first, btw).</p><p></p><p>4. Apple makes the whole widget. Try getting tech support for an Android product, it's HILARIOUS but not in a fun way -- the finger-pointing back and forth reminds me of the support banter between Microsoft "it can't be Windows" and software dev or peripheral vendor "It's a Windows issue" -- wheee! The carrier has a STRONG incentive to try to get you to upgrade to a newer phone, not fix any problems or give you free upgrades. Google won't help you unless you can prove it's an Android bug (speaking of which, it's kinda buggy!).</p><p></p><p>5. This may change with upcoming processors, but every time I've used Android systems they seem laggy. It varies, but there's enough time to wonder if that tap really "took" and try it again before it responds.</p><p></p><p>6. In all but the finest Android phones, I notice a distinct cheap feel and a lot of plastic. Hey, my original iPhone had a fair amount of plastic, its strong and not always a bad choice (the Galaxy S III being a good example). But I really do prefer the metal and glass of my iPhone 4.</p><p></p><p>7. Comparing the two eco-systems, people complain about Apple's "walled garden" but you are really FAR more "chained" to Google products once you go Android I find. They push all their services all the time HARD. With iOS, I have options for mail, for browsing, and for most (not all) of the other default apps. I have options with Android too -- but every road seems to lead back to using Google's products (as I am constantly being reminded). If you're already using all Google all the time, then this is not an issue.</p><p></p><p>8. If I want an alternative to iOS -- and I think alternatives are healthy -- why would I want a cheap knock-off of iOS? No, what I'd want would be something that is REALLY distinct from iOS. Something more like Windows Phone, or maybe this Ubuntu Phone thing (haven't really looked into it yet, could be something there!) or what about this BB10, let's see what they've got when they bring it to market. You know, something not trying to be as much like iOS as possible.</p><p></p><p>9. To some this is a silly complaint, but the sheer number of models and the pace of new models coming out (all of them with some new feature I don't have) in the Android community borders on ridiculous. I've been impressed with the Samsung Galaxy S III, but why would I buy one now? The S IV will likely debut around the end of this quarter, some eight months after the S III came out! I don't like this trend even when Apple does it (yes, I own a third-gen iPad <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />). This race to make the old model obsolete before my contract is even half done is kind of crazy. With Apple at least I get the software updates that give me as many features as possible, so my phone doesn't feel like its aging quite as fast.</p><p></p><p>10. My second-biggest beef with Android is that it is pretty obvious that the CARRIER is the customer and I'M the product when you go with Android. Google (with the exception of its own Nexus phones and tablets) lets the carriers cruft the devices up with mostly junkware (a familiar concept to Windows owners) some of which can't be removed, and lay over their own interfaces (some of which are nice, some suck) that are all different from each other.</p><p></p><p>There's more but I think you get the idea. I don't think iOS is perfect but of the three phone platforms I have any experience with, the clear hands-down superior one is iOS. That said, I am happy to see *clear* alternatives to iOS because no size should ever fit all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="chas_m, post: 1488680"] Here's my problem with Android: 1. The carrier or manufacturer, not you, determines when and IF you are ever going to get updates. The Jelly Bean 4.1 update that was released in June was only *just* released to Samsung Galaxy users TODAY, seven months later (and they are still behind, and will likely never see 4.2 or later releases). That's NUTS in my opinion. 2. Greatly increased security risk. LOTS of malware and scamware and other badware for Android: no malware for iOS at all, incredibly low risk of scamware (unless you are an idiot who can't read, and you're obviously not). 3. This one is only relevant your situation: why on earth would you invest in apps on one system that can't be run on your other device?? Go all-Android or all-iOS on that front, or you are throwing your app money away. And only ONE of those two systems can run ALL the Apps in their app store on both devices ... and that's iOS, the one with the far larger selection of apps as well (and the one that gets everything first, btw). 4. Apple makes the whole widget. Try getting tech support for an Android product, it's HILARIOUS but not in a fun way -- the finger-pointing back and forth reminds me of the support banter between Microsoft "it can't be Windows" and software dev or peripheral vendor "It's a Windows issue" -- wheee! The carrier has a STRONG incentive to try to get you to upgrade to a newer phone, not fix any problems or give you free upgrades. Google won't help you unless you can prove it's an Android bug (speaking of which, it's kinda buggy!). 5. This may change with upcoming processors, but every time I've used Android systems they seem laggy. It varies, but there's enough time to wonder if that tap really "took" and try it again before it responds. 6. In all but the finest Android phones, I notice a distinct cheap feel and a lot of plastic. Hey, my original iPhone had a fair amount of plastic, its strong and not always a bad choice (the Galaxy S III being a good example). But I really do prefer the metal and glass of my iPhone 4. 7. Comparing the two eco-systems, people complain about Apple's "walled garden" but you are really FAR more "chained" to Google products once you go Android I find. They push all their services all the time HARD. With iOS, I have options for mail, for browsing, and for most (not all) of the other default apps. I have options with Android too -- but every road seems to lead back to using Google's products (as I am constantly being reminded). If you're already using all Google all the time, then this is not an issue. 8. If I want an alternative to iOS -- and I think alternatives are healthy -- why would I want a cheap knock-off of iOS? No, what I'd want would be something that is REALLY distinct from iOS. Something more like Windows Phone, or maybe this Ubuntu Phone thing (haven't really looked into it yet, could be something there!) or what about this BB10, let's see what they've got when they bring it to market. You know, something not trying to be as much like iOS as possible. 9. To some this is a silly complaint, but the sheer number of models and the pace of new models coming out (all of them with some new feature I don't have) in the Android community borders on ridiculous. I've been impressed with the Samsung Galaxy S III, but why would I buy one now? The S IV will likely debut around the end of this quarter, some eight months after the S III came out! I don't like this trend even when Apple does it (yes, I own a third-gen iPad :)). This race to make the old model obsolete before my contract is even half done is kind of crazy. With Apple at least I get the software updates that give me as many features as possible, so my phone doesn't feel like its aging quite as fast. 10. My second-biggest beef with Android is that it is pretty obvious that the CARRIER is the customer and I'M the product when you go with Android. Google (with the exception of its own Nexus phones and tablets) lets the carriers cruft the devices up with mostly junkware (a familiar concept to Windows owners) some of which can't be removed, and lay over their own interfaces (some of which are nice, some suck) that are all different from each other. There's more but I think you get the idea. I don't think iOS is perfect but of the three phone platforms I have any experience with, the clear hands-down superior one is iOS. That said, I am happy to see *clear* alternatives to iOS because no size should ever fit all. [/QUOTE]
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