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PC problems. Are these issues with OSX, too?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lastmboy" data-source="post: 1397255" data-attributes="member: 246992"><p>You don't need to. You can fit a bunch of drives in the pc case and have them all directly connected. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I'm just kidding. Your point is well taken. I really want one of those 12TB Promise Pegasus units, but holy !#$@ what a price tag!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it didn't. I love that IPS display, even if it is a bit overpriced.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't argue, nor would I want to, that a Mac isn't a good value and a great machine, and it definitely beats all in style. It just seems like Apple uses the hype to price gouge a bit. I don't know what exactly they put into every box, but I know how much they charge for upgrades. It's a bit misleading. The under $2,000 iMac is a bit behind the times, and pretty much begs to be upgraded right away. CPU upgrade to I7 is around $400. Memory upgrade is $210 for 4gb, a whopping $630 to upgrade to 16gb... I can get the whole 16gb at OWC for $99 and throw the initial 4gb away. Hard drive upgrade from 1tb to 2tb is $150. Hard drives have gone up a bit, but I bought a 3tb one for less than that. 2tb drives are generally less than $100. From what I've been told, Apple does not make any of these items themselves. They contract out to the lowest bidder. Again, I don't mind paying a bit more, and I'll likely be convinced to pay a lot more. They just seem to get a wee bit carried away. However, like both of us have stated now, it's worth it just to be able to run OSX.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>... and I'm hoping that is the case (that it's that much better). I'm just not sure which components Apple actually makes and which ones they contract out on and take the lowest bid.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree!! No argument. One of the reasons I'm switching. Re-installing everything from scratch once a year is a pita. Still... it wasn't the hardware's fault.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I sure hope you're right. I'm looking at coughing up $4,500 for a decked out iMac that I can't upgrade (much). I'm making the larger investment partly because I just love the way it looks and works, but partly because I'm hoping it will last me several years. I normally upgrade my pc every one to two years... and after thinking about it, you're right. The time I choose to upgrade is usually when I have a major crash and it's just not worth the time to try to get it working again.</p><p></p><p>You guys make good arguments, and you don't need to convince me, as I'm already sold. I just struggle with the "it doesn't cost any more" comment. Even the Apple rep I spoke with said "Yes, it costs about twice as much as a pc with the same processor, ram, and storage, but why do you drive a BMW and not a Chev? Your BMW cost a lot more." THAT, to me, made a lot more sense than "It doesn't cost any more".</p><p></p><p>I like gathering all these good points to pass on to all my friends that need to be switching. I have a recording studio, which is basically just a hobby, but I was scouring the forums to see if the audio/recording software, which tends to be very demanding, would generally run more stable on a Mac. I read one comment that really stuck. Everyone was doing the "it costs so much more" thing (which I guess I'm guilty of, now). However, one Mac user asked if their "time" was worth anything, and how much time they had lost in re-boots, hangs, crashes, configuration, etc. over the last week. Most would say several hours (as would I). Then it hit me... this expensive, but very cool machine would likely pay for itself in recovered time within the first month. </p><p></p><p>** sorry if I offended any Chev owners.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lastmboy, post: 1397255, member: 246992"] You don't need to. You can fit a bunch of drives in the pc case and have them all directly connected. ;) I'm just kidding. Your point is well taken. I really want one of those 12TB Promise Pegasus units, but holy !#$@ what a price tag! No it didn't. I love that IPS display, even if it is a bit overpriced. I can't argue, nor would I want to, that a Mac isn't a good value and a great machine, and it definitely beats all in style. It just seems like Apple uses the hype to price gouge a bit. I don't know what exactly they put into every box, but I know how much they charge for upgrades. It's a bit misleading. The under $2,000 iMac is a bit behind the times, and pretty much begs to be upgraded right away. CPU upgrade to I7 is around $400. Memory upgrade is $210 for 4gb, a whopping $630 to upgrade to 16gb... I can get the whole 16gb at OWC for $99 and throw the initial 4gb away. Hard drive upgrade from 1tb to 2tb is $150. Hard drives have gone up a bit, but I bought a 3tb one for less than that. 2tb drives are generally less than $100. From what I've been told, Apple does not make any of these items themselves. They contract out to the lowest bidder. Again, I don't mind paying a bit more, and I'll likely be convinced to pay a lot more. They just seem to get a wee bit carried away. However, like both of us have stated now, it's worth it just to be able to run OSX. ... and I'm hoping that is the case (that it's that much better). I'm just not sure which components Apple actually makes and which ones they contract out on and take the lowest bid. I agree!! No argument. One of the reasons I'm switching. Re-installing everything from scratch once a year is a pita. Still... it wasn't the hardware's fault. I sure hope you're right. I'm looking at coughing up $4,500 for a decked out iMac that I can't upgrade (much). I'm making the larger investment partly because I just love the way it looks and works, but partly because I'm hoping it will last me several years. I normally upgrade my pc every one to two years... and after thinking about it, you're right. The time I choose to upgrade is usually when I have a major crash and it's just not worth the time to try to get it working again. You guys make good arguments, and you don't need to convince me, as I'm already sold. I just struggle with the "it doesn't cost any more" comment. Even the Apple rep I spoke with said "Yes, it costs about twice as much as a pc with the same processor, ram, and storage, but why do you drive a BMW and not a Chev? Your BMW cost a lot more." THAT, to me, made a lot more sense than "It doesn't cost any more". I like gathering all these good points to pass on to all my friends that need to be switching. I have a recording studio, which is basically just a hobby, but I was scouring the forums to see if the audio/recording software, which tends to be very demanding, would generally run more stable on a Mac. I read one comment that really stuck. Everyone was doing the "it costs so much more" thing (which I guess I'm guilty of, now). However, one Mac user asked if their "time" was worth anything, and how much time they had lost in re-boots, hangs, crashes, configuration, etc. over the last week. Most would say several hours (as would I). Then it hit me... this expensive, but very cool machine would likely pay for itself in recovered time within the first month. ** sorry if I offended any Chev owners. [/QUOTE]
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