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PC problems. Are these issues with OSX, too?
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<blockquote data-quote="Thymen" data-source="post: 1397242" data-attributes="member: 243742"><p>To the OP...</p><p></p><p>Me, too, I am a long-time professional Windows user... and here is my rant...</p><p></p><p>As far as cost is concerned, there are many factors to include. Perhaps comparing hardware may not be the most important after all, but more like 'what would I spend in Windows, and what in OSX'.</p><p></p><p>I purchased an iMac two months ago, a 27" with i5/3.1 GHz processor, 16 GB RAM, and some peripherals and software. All together cost me 2770 Euro (2,770.00 EUR = 3,662.81 US$), including VAT. I do not know what you consider a lot... for me it is a major investment that I hope will serve me a long time.</p><p></p><p>But what about the alternative? For work, we use HP WorkStations in the office, have about 20 of them, including 24" screens, for CAD development. HP Z600 with decent specs, without graphics card and monitor costs about 2650 US$, Graphics Adapter for CAD: 530 US$. 24" Monitor: 600 US$. Sums up to 3780 US$. And with 19% VAT that is 4500 US$. They are, in my opinion, worth every dime. In 15 years of being responsible for hard- and software being used at engineering departments, Compaq/HP never failed me other that that one graphics card could not withstand a cup of coffee being poured over it.</p><p></p><p>Could I get a cheaper workstation, or a PC for home use? Yes. Would I be happy using it after using a superior system all day at the office? No. So, just to satisfy myself, I would need to spend 830 USD more on a Z600 then on and iMac based system.</p><p></p><p>Do I need a 3660 US$ machine at home? Absolutely NOT. My 5 year old HP XW4400 still does the trick as good as it did when I bought it.</p><p></p><p>My major incentive to get a Mac was to create a difference between office and home environment. The software I use in the office is Windows-based, so.... can't take work home anymore! I am getting older, and more and more worn-out from 30+ years of intense stress in development arena, and I need to be careful if I want to last until retirement.</p><p></p><p>As far as installation is concerned: I can have a new workstation up and running, including all software (office, CAD, databases, etc) in half a day, of which 60% is un-attended. Half an hour if I can clone it via a ghost image. System stability has not been an issue ever, and when it was, it was user-induced. And user friendliness? Our 20 engineers never asked any Windows-related questions. I have talked far more about OSX in the past two months with a colleague that also owns an iMac. Also had, and am having, quite a few issues with the iMac that I need to resolve. No showstoppers, just minor annoyances...</p><p></p><p>I do not consider myself a switcher, since I will use both systems, but for different purposes and different reasons. To me, preference for either Apple or Windows is like having a preference for either blondes or brunettes. I honestly do not understand Window-bashing, especially from recent switchers. </p><p></p><p>All in all, cost is a only one factor, there are far more things to be considered. There are differences in the OS'es, but for me that is not an issue. It quite often is just a matter of finding the solution, and with Mac forums and Google that journey of discovery can be fun. At least, it is for me, since the iMac is not (yet) for work, so I can figure it out at my leisure.</p><p></p><p>As indicated before in this thread by other, more experienced users: a problem is only something for which you have not yet found the proper solution. And not being aware of a solution might be the reason why some users find 'the other side' problematic, and become biased.</p><p></p><p>Ah well..... only you can make a decision if it is all worth the 'trouble' and money. I made a decision for my reasons, you make a decision for yours, and I hope my rant here may be of some help to you I'm making a satisfying decision.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p>Thymen</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thymen, post: 1397242, member: 243742"] To the OP... Me, too, I am a long-time professional Windows user... and here is my rant... As far as cost is concerned, there are many factors to include. Perhaps comparing hardware may not be the most important after all, but more like 'what would I spend in Windows, and what in OSX'. I purchased an iMac two months ago, a 27" with i5/3.1 GHz processor, 16 GB RAM, and some peripherals and software. All together cost me 2770 Euro (2,770.00 EUR = 3,662.81 US$), including VAT. I do not know what you consider a lot... for me it is a major investment that I hope will serve me a long time. But what about the alternative? For work, we use HP WorkStations in the office, have about 20 of them, including 24" screens, for CAD development. HP Z600 with decent specs, without graphics card and monitor costs about 2650 US$, Graphics Adapter for CAD: 530 US$. 24" Monitor: 600 US$. Sums up to 3780 US$. And with 19% VAT that is 4500 US$. They are, in my opinion, worth every dime. In 15 years of being responsible for hard- and software being used at engineering departments, Compaq/HP never failed me other that that one graphics card could not withstand a cup of coffee being poured over it. Could I get a cheaper workstation, or a PC for home use? Yes. Would I be happy using it after using a superior system all day at the office? No. So, just to satisfy myself, I would need to spend 830 USD more on a Z600 then on and iMac based system. Do I need a 3660 US$ machine at home? Absolutely NOT. My 5 year old HP XW4400 still does the trick as good as it did when I bought it. My major incentive to get a Mac was to create a difference between office and home environment. The software I use in the office is Windows-based, so.... can't take work home anymore! I am getting older, and more and more worn-out from 30+ years of intense stress in development arena, and I need to be careful if I want to last until retirement. As far as installation is concerned: I can have a new workstation up and running, including all software (office, CAD, databases, etc) in half a day, of which 60% is un-attended. Half an hour if I can clone it via a ghost image. System stability has not been an issue ever, and when it was, it was user-induced. And user friendliness? Our 20 engineers never asked any Windows-related questions. I have talked far more about OSX in the past two months with a colleague that also owns an iMac. Also had, and am having, quite a few issues with the iMac that I need to resolve. No showstoppers, just minor annoyances... I do not consider myself a switcher, since I will use both systems, but for different purposes and different reasons. To me, preference for either Apple or Windows is like having a preference for either blondes or brunettes. I honestly do not understand Window-bashing, especially from recent switchers. All in all, cost is a only one factor, there are far more things to be considered. There are differences in the OS'es, but for me that is not an issue. It quite often is just a matter of finding the solution, and with Mac forums and Google that journey of discovery can be fun. At least, it is for me, since the iMac is not (yet) for work, so I can figure it out at my leisure. As indicated before in this thread by other, more experienced users: a problem is only something for which you have not yet found the proper solution. And not being aware of a solution might be the reason why some users find 'the other side' problematic, and become biased. Ah well..... only you can make a decision if it is all worth the 'trouble' and money. I made a decision for my reasons, you make a decision for yours, and I hope my rant here may be of some help to you I'm making a satisfying decision. Regards, Thymen [/QUOTE]
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