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MacBook Pro just DIED after battery replacement and callibration !
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<blockquote data-quote="Doug b" data-source="post: 948318" data-attributes="member: 59143"><p>I only hope that your suggestion rings true for my case here George ! Of course it is possible that the battery is simply defective, but I guess I'm just looking a bit deeper than that at this point. My first line of reasoning is this:</p><p></p><p>When the tech at the Apple store replaced the battery, wouldn't procedure call for him to actually check <strong>that battery</strong> before giving it the okay to reside in my MBP ? After all, Apple knows there are battery issues, and as such would likely recommend (or enforce) that any battery swap out follow a standard protocol which includes testing the new battery ? </p><p></p><p>Now, after having done a lot of reading on teh internetzess', I've come to the conclusion that MacBooks and MacBook Pro's might suffer similar problems, but that the symptoms might be all together different in many different cases. So it's hard to isolate one problem and get an indefinite solution for it. Looking at that Google page I linked to above will show this, if you read enough. A good example to start with would be at <a href="http://www.appledefects.com" target="_blank"> Apple Defects</a> and by going to the wiki section. Sheds a lot of light on things. </p><p></p><p>It even incriminates Apple as far as them ignoring issues or pretending they don't exist. Let's face it, if Apple had to admit to the design faults and manufacturing problems, they'd stand to lose a lot of money. Recalls and redesigning of products would take a big chunk out of their time and pockets. And in this economy, that's a hard bullet to bite down on. Ok, I'm not a business major, and so I'm talking a bit out my patoot, but at least this is what my common sense is telling me. </p><p></p><p>In any case. I have nothing else to go on but with what I have seen and experienced first hand. It seems logical to me that my original battery went kaput because of something else. Not just out of thin air. I got to thinking about things, and came to this conclusion. (which isn't warranted just yet. My own speculation):</p><p></p><p>The connection between the battery and the circuit board has somehow been disrupted. After all.. the new battery was working wonderfully when we brought it home. The initial calibration showed this. I had to drain it before recharging, and the thing lasted a pretty decent amount of time while doing some processor intensive tasks. It went all the way down to zero percent power and still didn't go to sleep for at least 5-7 minutes after that. </p><p></p><p>Was it the static charge that had built up for so long and wasn't able to be discharged ? No idea. But something internally is skrewd to the point of where even without a battery and the mains plugged in, it won't power on. And that's not normal. So I'd say that [simply] ruling out a defective battery is a safe bet. After the battery was totally discharged, it simply didn't charge again. Having it plugged in all day did nothing to it. The mag-safe adapter light just displayed a green light because that's what it does in this particular state, I guess. And not because it was charging anything. </p><p></p><p>No connection= no charge= no way for the MBP to turn on. But then the question raised is, WHY ? After having it for close to two years now, it just decides to take on this problem out of the blue ? (reminds me of that line from Reservoir Dogs when Nice Guy Eddie is talking about his buddy Vick at the end). So then my only line of reasoning is that it is somehow connected to the grounding/power/vibration issue. </p><p></p><p>I just wish there was an real Apple store near me, and not just a certified place. Especially now, seeing as how the dude there said that the vibration was totally "normal". That says to me he doesn't know jack cr@p about this and is just talking for the h311 of it. </p><p></p><p>Doug</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doug b, post: 948318, member: 59143"] I only hope that your suggestion rings true for my case here George ! Of course it is possible that the battery is simply defective, but I guess I'm just looking a bit deeper than that at this point. My first line of reasoning is this: When the tech at the Apple store replaced the battery, wouldn't procedure call for him to actually check [b]that battery[/b] before giving it the okay to reside in my MBP ? After all, Apple knows there are battery issues, and as such would likely recommend (or enforce) that any battery swap out follow a standard protocol which includes testing the new battery ? Now, after having done a lot of reading on teh internetzess', I've come to the conclusion that MacBooks and MacBook Pro's might suffer similar problems, but that the symptoms might be all together different in many different cases. So it's hard to isolate one problem and get an indefinite solution for it. Looking at that Google page I linked to above will show this, if you read enough. A good example to start with would be at [url=http://www.appledefects.com] Apple Defects[/url] and by going to the wiki section. Sheds a lot of light on things. It even incriminates Apple as far as them ignoring issues or pretending they don't exist. Let's face it, if Apple had to admit to the design faults and manufacturing problems, they'd stand to lose a lot of money. Recalls and redesigning of products would take a big chunk out of their time and pockets. And in this economy, that's a hard bullet to bite down on. Ok, I'm not a business major, and so I'm talking a bit out my patoot, but at least this is what my common sense is telling me. In any case. I have nothing else to go on but with what I have seen and experienced first hand. It seems logical to me that my original battery went kaput because of something else. Not just out of thin air. I got to thinking about things, and came to this conclusion. (which isn't warranted just yet. My own speculation): The connection between the battery and the circuit board has somehow been disrupted. After all.. the new battery was working wonderfully when we brought it home. The initial calibration showed this. I had to drain it before recharging, and the thing lasted a pretty decent amount of time while doing some processor intensive tasks. It went all the way down to zero percent power and still didn't go to sleep for at least 5-7 minutes after that. Was it the static charge that had built up for so long and wasn't able to be discharged ? No idea. But something internally is skrewd to the point of where even without a battery and the mains plugged in, it won't power on. And that's not normal. So I'd say that [simply] ruling out a defective battery is a safe bet. After the battery was totally discharged, it simply didn't charge again. Having it plugged in all day did nothing to it. The mag-safe adapter light just displayed a green light because that's what it does in this particular state, I guess. And not because it was charging anything. No connection= no charge= no way for the MBP to turn on. But then the question raised is, WHY ? After having it for close to two years now, it just decides to take on this problem out of the blue ? (reminds me of that line from Reservoir Dogs when Nice Guy Eddie is talking about his buddy Vick at the end). So then my only line of reasoning is that it is somehow connected to the grounding/power/vibration issue. I just wish there was an real Apple store near me, and not just a certified place. Especially now, seeing as how the dude there said that the vibration was totally "normal". That says to me he doesn't know jack cr@p about this and is just talking for the h311 of it. Doug [/QUOTE]
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