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<blockquote data-quote="Doug b" data-source="post: 957165" data-attributes="member: 59143"><p>Stupid question but... What exactly are you going to be using this "super" computer for ? The only real benefit I can see with that Dell is the Blue Ray drive. But even that isn't much of an issue unless you reeeeally enjoy watching BR movies on a screen who's maximum size is 17 inches and where the speakers are not so great, to say the least. And don't say you'd use it while hooked up to a larger screen and better speakers UNLESS you have absolutely no other home audio/video gear. And I can get a nice BR burner and put it in an E-SATA housing, so whatever. </p><p></p><p>That said, you are totally missing the point with all of your fancy specs. It still runs Windows. And that sir, IS the point. I'm 37. Former Windows user. Since version 2.1 (also had some Amiga's, a Commodore 64 and some other stuff which eludes me at the moment) </p><p></p><p>I stopped using Windows when Vista was being built up and was reportedly going to replace XP. Switched to various flavors of Linux and settled on Ubuntu. Stopped using Ubuntu in the Summer of 2008, which is when I bought my MacBook Pro. Started off disliking OS X for a good few months, cursing and acting like a cry baby, making my wife think twice about her decision to marry me... . Until I realized what was happening. I was trying to make OSX behave like a linux or Windows system. </p><p></p><p>When I stopped doing that, and actually learned how to use the interface and even some terminal stuff, I was actually working more that I ever was with either Linux or Windows. XP was fine, actually, but still a much bigger hassle at the end of the day. </p><p></p><p>If you're a gamer, then praise be to the Windows system. (thanks to greedily written contracts between Windows and hardware/software manf.) If not, then there's absolutely nothing I can't do, if not better with OS X. (with the exception of iTunes. It works the way I need it to now, but it was a battle and I hate it)</p><p></p><p>I work with Photoshop and Lightroom and I'm learning how to use Illustrator. I've used these on Windows, also and there's no difference except for minor tweaks in the GUI. And in those terms, they all seem a lot more streamlined in OS X. </p><p></p><p>And as far as the trackpad on the MacBook's go ? If you've never used one, I suggest you try. It's a true evolutionary step ahead which the Windows' fellas don't seem to get. I can't tell you how much it really speeds up your workflow. </p><p></p><p>And yes, I've tried Windows 7. It is an definite improvement, but it's nowhere near being as different from other iterations of Windows as people are made to believe. Whooptie doo.. some eye candy. Eye candy mind you, which is more flash than function. Not to mention the FACT that the ideas have been in use by Linux GUI's for more than a few years now. </p><p></p><p>Ok great, they took some code from XP, some from Vista and made it more stable. Wow, what a feat. Can you say "should have been" ? Day late, dollar short and still nothing that impresses me. It still looks and feels like Windows. I still think it's ugly. And I still think it needs the same anti virus, anti spyware and malware babysitting that it always has. </p><p></p><p>I've not seen one bit of this since 2005, which is when I strayed from XP, after having beta tested Vista. </p><p></p><p>So you can take your fancy pants specs which nary serve a real purpose, (again, unless you're a gamer and are using a desktop) and be happy with Windows. I was able to whip any spec'd out Vista machine in terms of stability and speed with my Linux system which had LESS specs, simply because my OS wasn't so ****ed resource hungry. </p><p></p><p>Specs don't impress. The OS which utilize what the specs are capable are, does.</p><p></p><p>Doug</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doug b, post: 957165, member: 59143"] Stupid question but... What exactly are you going to be using this "super" computer for ? The only real benefit I can see with that Dell is the Blue Ray drive. But even that isn't much of an issue unless you reeeeally enjoy watching BR movies on a screen who's maximum size is 17 inches and where the speakers are not so great, to say the least. And don't say you'd use it while hooked up to a larger screen and better speakers UNLESS you have absolutely no other home audio/video gear. And I can get a nice BR burner and put it in an E-SATA housing, so whatever. That said, you are totally missing the point with all of your fancy specs. It still runs Windows. And that sir, IS the point. I'm 37. Former Windows user. Since version 2.1 (also had some Amiga's, a Commodore 64 and some other stuff which eludes me at the moment) I stopped using Windows when Vista was being built up and was reportedly going to replace XP. Switched to various flavors of Linux and settled on Ubuntu. Stopped using Ubuntu in the Summer of 2008, which is when I bought my MacBook Pro. Started off disliking OS X for a good few months, cursing and acting like a cry baby, making my wife think twice about her decision to marry me... . Until I realized what was happening. I was trying to make OSX behave like a linux or Windows system. When I stopped doing that, and actually learned how to use the interface and even some terminal stuff, I was actually working more that I ever was with either Linux or Windows. XP was fine, actually, but still a much bigger hassle at the end of the day. If you're a gamer, then praise be to the Windows system. (thanks to greedily written contracts between Windows and hardware/software manf.) If not, then there's absolutely nothing I can't do, if not better with OS X. (with the exception of iTunes. It works the way I need it to now, but it was a battle and I hate it) I work with Photoshop and Lightroom and I'm learning how to use Illustrator. I've used these on Windows, also and there's no difference except for minor tweaks in the GUI. And in those terms, they all seem a lot more streamlined in OS X. And as far as the trackpad on the MacBook's go ? If you've never used one, I suggest you try. It's a true evolutionary step ahead which the Windows' fellas don't seem to get. I can't tell you how much it really speeds up your workflow. And yes, I've tried Windows 7. It is an definite improvement, but it's nowhere near being as different from other iterations of Windows as people are made to believe. Whooptie doo.. some eye candy. Eye candy mind you, which is more flash than function. Not to mention the FACT that the ideas have been in use by Linux GUI's for more than a few years now. Ok great, they took some code from XP, some from Vista and made it more stable. Wow, what a feat. Can you say "should have been" ? Day late, dollar short and still nothing that impresses me. It still looks and feels like Windows. I still think it's ugly. And I still think it needs the same anti virus, anti spyware and malware babysitting that it always has. I've not seen one bit of this since 2005, which is when I strayed from XP, after having beta tested Vista. So you can take your fancy pants specs which nary serve a real purpose, (again, unless you're a gamer and are using a desktop) and be happy with Windows. I was able to whip any spec'd out Vista machine in terms of stability and speed with my Linux system which had LESS specs, simply because my OS wasn't so ****ed resource hungry. Specs don't impress. The OS which utilize what the specs are capable are, does. Doug [/QUOTE]
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