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<blockquote data-quote="LivingInThePast" data-source="post: 1610753" data-attributes="member: 333992"><p>Alrighty then! Now the discussion is really heating up. Thank y'all for the feedback and useful advice.</p><p></p><p>The reason I didn't launch directly into providing specific hardware and OS stats is that I'm back into my collecting mode and I'm shopping around for several models of old Macs. Prior to actually purchasing a new set of toys, I'm collecting information about which upgrades I should choose and where I can find the best prices and most trustworthy sellers. Until I encounter a specific problem with a specific computer, I can't provide specific information. I'll be buying a wide range of computers and using a wide range of OS's with each of them.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I've already discovered that Apple started using IDE/ATA interfaces in their 5300/1400/2400/3400 PowerBooks as early as 1995. 2014-1995=19, which is nearly 20 years, if you round up.</p><p></p><p>I always appreciate getting (free) advice from an attorney. Computer shoppers are deluged with a virtual sea of unscrupulous sellers, so it's always nice to know what protections I may have. I've been very impressed with OWC's product line, even though I usually end up buying Samsung SSDs. OWC doesn't make SSDs for pre-G3 Macs, so I will put my questions to them to see if they can offer a highly technical answer as to why that is the case. The information they provide will be useful for making a similar selection of a traditional hard drive.</p><p></p><p>The drive-size-limitation problem is actually pretty easy to work around. All one has to do is create smaller partitions. I always create a boot partition that is formatted and sized to match the type of hard drive that would have been originally installed on the computer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As a side note, I've spent half of my adult life in college studying math and engineering and science, and I've worked in the electronic component industry. I've spent my life applying scientific and technical knowledge to the selection of board-level electronic components. Taking this same approach to consumer electronic component selection is second nature to me.</p><p></p><p>Throughout my life, both as a student and as a working professional, I've been bombarded with this exact same reaction: why don't I just accept the information I'm given, put out the least amount of effort, collect my paycheck, keep my mouth shut, and stop asking questions? People can't seem to understand why I 'overcomplicate' everything. At the same time, I can't understand why other people seem to 'under-complicate' everything.</p><p></p><p>I guess the answer to that lies in my own nature, as well as in the definition of 'civilization'. For myself, I know that I've always been driven to understand how and why things (engineering and natural systems) work. Through reading and life experience, I've observed that our technology-driven civilization is the result of two human desires: 1) the desire to acquire 'good' information (what we call knowledge) so we can have some control over the natural world and create technology; and 2) the desire to do and create things that have never been done or created before. </p><p></p><p>Neither of these desires are compatible with uncomplicated thinking or living. Understanding anything to a greater depth necessitates an examination of systemic interactions, and that endeavor is mired in complexity. That's why it takes so many years for students to learn a specialization in college.</p><p></p><p>Exploration and creation are also not activities that are inherently uncomplicated. If a lack of complication was our foremost desire, we wouldn't climb mountains, build space shuttles, or compose symphonies. All of the really worthwhile pursuits in life are complicated. Those pursuits take enormous effort, they expose us to uncertainty, and they create a need for useful information.</p><p></p><p>Whenever I encounter someone that wants to know how or why somethings works, I applaud their curiosity. I think if humanity has a genuine desire to be smarter, then there's hope for us all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LivingInThePast, post: 1610753, member: 333992"] Alrighty then! Now the discussion is really heating up. Thank y'all for the feedback and useful advice. The reason I didn't launch directly into providing specific hardware and OS stats is that I'm back into my collecting mode and I'm shopping around for several models of old Macs. Prior to actually purchasing a new set of toys, I'm collecting information about which upgrades I should choose and where I can find the best prices and most trustworthy sellers. Until I encounter a specific problem with a specific computer, I can't provide specific information. I'll be buying a wide range of computers and using a wide range of OS's with each of them. Having said that, I've already discovered that Apple started using IDE/ATA interfaces in their 5300/1400/2400/3400 PowerBooks as early as 1995. 2014-1995=19, which is nearly 20 years, if you round up. I always appreciate getting (free) advice from an attorney. Computer shoppers are deluged with a virtual sea of unscrupulous sellers, so it's always nice to know what protections I may have. I've been very impressed with OWC's product line, even though I usually end up buying Samsung SSDs. OWC doesn't make SSDs for pre-G3 Macs, so I will put my questions to them to see if they can offer a highly technical answer as to why that is the case. The information they provide will be useful for making a similar selection of a traditional hard drive. The drive-size-limitation problem is actually pretty easy to work around. All one has to do is create smaller partitions. I always create a boot partition that is formatted and sized to match the type of hard drive that would have been originally installed on the computer. As a side note, I've spent half of my adult life in college studying math and engineering and science, and I've worked in the electronic component industry. I've spent my life applying scientific and technical knowledge to the selection of board-level electronic components. Taking this same approach to consumer electronic component selection is second nature to me. Throughout my life, both as a student and as a working professional, I've been bombarded with this exact same reaction: why don't I just accept the information I'm given, put out the least amount of effort, collect my paycheck, keep my mouth shut, and stop asking questions? People can't seem to understand why I 'overcomplicate' everything. At the same time, I can't understand why other people seem to 'under-complicate' everything. I guess the answer to that lies in my own nature, as well as in the definition of 'civilization'. For myself, I know that I've always been driven to understand how and why things (engineering and natural systems) work. Through reading and life experience, I've observed that our technology-driven civilization is the result of two human desires: 1) the desire to acquire 'good' information (what we call knowledge) so we can have some control over the natural world and create technology; and 2) the desire to do and create things that have never been done or created before. Neither of these desires are compatible with uncomplicated thinking or living. Understanding anything to a greater depth necessitates an examination of systemic interactions, and that endeavor is mired in complexity. That's why it takes so many years for students to learn a specialization in college. Exploration and creation are also not activities that are inherently uncomplicated. If a lack of complication was our foremost desire, we wouldn't climb mountains, build space shuttles, or compose symphonies. All of the really worthwhile pursuits in life are complicated. Those pursuits take enormous effort, they expose us to uncertainty, and they create a need for useful information. Whenever I encounter someone that wants to know how or why somethings works, I applaud their curiosity. I think if humanity has a genuine desire to be smarter, then there's hope for us all. [/QUOTE]
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