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    You have to tell rm to be recursive if you want to remove a directory (this is what the r option is for).

    If cradom's rm command didn't work (sudo rm -rf <file name>), I can't think of anything that will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues2use View Post
    Yes, I have tried that with no effect...thanks...terminal out indicates that these are directories...either way, I can't seem to delete them...
    Here's my terminal output:

    sudo rm -rf /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Adobe /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC\ files\ Mint\ 13\ Desktop /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC\ files\ Ubuntu\ 1204\ from\ old\ Mint\ 13\ Desktop /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Notes\ and\ System\ Info
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Adobe: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop/Notes and System Info: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop/Notes and System Info: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Mint 13 Desktop: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Ubuntu 1204 from old Mint 13 Desktop/Notes and System Info: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/MISC files Ubuntu 1204 from old Mint 13 Desktop: Directory not empty
    rm: /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Notes and System Info: Directory not empty

    These directories do not display other than in MuCommander or Path Finder and are are shown as Zero Bytes...I used terminal via Path Finder to get this output and verify the zero byte status..the directories and contents of the zero byte directories are in bold:

    myusername-iMac:~ myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    myusername-Imac:~ myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Adobe
    myusername-Imac:Adobe myusername$ ls
    Adobe Photoshop Plugins - Site Grinder 2.1.1
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Mint13
    myusername-iMac:Mint13 myusername$ ls
    Desktop Image Magick commands.txt Notes
    myusername-iMac:Mint13 myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Misc1204
    myusername-iMac:Misc1204 myusername$ ls
    Image Magick commands.txt Notes and System Info
    myusername-iMac:Misc1204 myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Notes
    myusername-iMac:Notes myusername$ ls
    Image Magick commands.txt

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    With this being NTFS have you tried using a windows box, taking ownership of the directory, setting permissions to full control, then deleting it, also tried renaming the directory then delting, failing that try saving a temp junk file (i.e. some text file) as the same file name and location then delete

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    Quote Originally Posted by blues2use View Post
    myusername-iMac:~ myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    myusername-Imac:~ myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501/Adobe
    myusername-Imac:Adobe myusername$ ls
    Adobe Photoshop Plugins - Site Grinder 2.1.1
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Mint13
    myusername-iMac:Mint13 myusername$ ls
    Desktop Image Magick commands.txt Notes
    myusername-iMac:Mint13 myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Misc1204
    myusername-iMac:Misc1204 myusername$ ls
    Image Magick commands.txt Notes and System Info
    myusername-iMac:Misc1204 myusername$ cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    myusername-iMac:501 myusername$ cd Notes
    myusername-iMac:Notes myusername$ ls
    Image Magick commands.txt
    Do this:
    cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    sudo -rf *.*
    (this is assuming you want to delete ALL files in Trash)
    If not:
    sudo rm -rf Adobe (or whatever filename)
    See if it works.
    If those are directories, drill down til you get to a file and try it.

    EDIT: just for giggles, try a ls -la on those dirs. Should look like this:
    drwxr-xr-x+ 98 staff 3.3K May 7 18:38 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 6 admin 204B Feb 23 21:34 ../
    -rw------- 1 staff 3B Jan 13 2012 .CFUserTextEncoding
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 15K May 6 19:06 .DS_Store
    -rw------- 1 staff 1.5K Apr 11 18:54 .ICEauthority
    drwx------ 2 staff 68B May 8 03:18 .Trash/
    -rw------- 1 staff 57B May 7 18:38 .Xauthority
    drwxr-xr-x 2 staff 68B Jul 18 2012 .Xcode/
    drwxr-xr-x 4 staff 136B Jan 14 2012 .adobe/
    drwxr-xr-x 10 staff 340B Jan 28 18:28 .android/
    -rw------- 1 staff 7.5K May 8 03:28 .bash_history
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 968B May 7 17:52 .bash_profile
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 589B Apr 8 15:07 .bash_profile.macports-saved_2013-04-11_at_14:33:25
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 1.3K Mar 1 2012 .bashrc
    drwxr-xr-x 8 staff 272B Jan 21 18:41 .bitpim-files/
    drwxr-xr-x 4 staff 136B May 7 17:23 .cache/
    drwxr-xr-x 5 staff 170B May 7 17:25 .config/
    drwx------ 3 staff 102B Jan 13 2012 .cups/
    drwx------ 15 staff 510B Jan 22 03:28 .dropbox/
    drwxr-xr-x@ 297 staff 9.9K Feb 16 06:57 .explorer.cache/
    drwxr-xr-x@ 3 staff 102B Feb 16 06:55 .explorer.local/
    drwxr-xr-x 7 staff 238B Mar 31 2012 .fontconfig-2.4/
    drwx------ 4 staff 136B Apr 11 18:57 .gconf/
    drwx------ 3 staff 102B Apr 11 19:18 .gconfd/
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    Quote Originally Posted by cradom View Post
    Do this:
    cd /Volumes/Seagate2tb/.Trashes/501
    ls
    Adobe Mint13 Misc1204 Notes
    sudo -rf *.*
    (this is assuming you want to delete ALL files in Trash)
    If not:
    sudo rm -rf Adobe (or whatever filename)
    See if it works.
    If those are directories, drill down til you get to a file and try it.

    EDIT: just for giggles, try a ls -la on those dirs. Should look like this:
    drwxr-xr-x+ 98 staff 3.3K May 7 18:38 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 6 admin 204B Feb 23 21:34 ../
    -rw------- 1 staff 3B Jan 13 2012 .CFUserTextEncoding
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 15K May 6 19:06 .DS_Store
    -rw------- 1 staff 1.5K Apr 11 18:54 .ICEauthority
    drwx------ 2 staff 68B May 8 03:18 .Trash/
    -rw------- 1 staff 57B May 7 18:38 .Xauthority
    drwxr-xr-x 2 staff 68B Jul 18 2012 .Xcode/
    drwxr-xr-x 4 staff 136B Jan 14 2012 .adobe/
    drwxr-xr-x 10 staff 340B Jan 28 18:28 .android/
    -rw------- 1 staff 7.5K May 8 03:28 .bash_history
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 968B May 7 17:52 .bash_profile
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 589B Apr 8 15:07 .bash_profile.macports-saved_2013-04-11_at_14:33:25
    -rw-r--r--@ 1 staff 1.3K Mar 1 2012 .bashrc
    drwxr-xr-x 8 staff 272B Jan 21 18:41 .bitpim-files/
    drwxr-xr-x 4 staff 136B May 7 17:23 .cache/
    drwxr-xr-x 5 staff 170B May 7 17:25 .config/
    drwx------ 3 staff 102B Jan 13 2012 .cups/
    drwx------ 15 staff 510B Jan 22 03:28 .dropbox/
    drwxr-xr-x@ 297 staff 9.9K Feb 16 06:57 .explorer.cache/
    drwxr-xr-x@ 3 staff 102B Feb 16 06:55 .explorer.local/
    drwxr-xr-x 7 staff 238B Mar 31 2012 .fontconfig-2.4/
    drwx------ 4 staff 136B Apr 11 18:57 .gconf/
    drwx------ 3 staff 102B Apr 11 19:18 .gconfd/
    I've tried all of the various suggestions and nothing will delete these directories/files. I decided to move all of my data to my spare drive and reformat the Seagate to ExFAT and restore my data. So far, so good on that operation. Total transfer of the 650GB of data should be done in about 2 more hours or so.

    Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I sincerely appreciate you all taking the time to help me.

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    I have the same issue, and I know it is related in some way to Tuxera since if disable it the trash seems to be empty. Enabling NTFS support the trash again displays 3 empty folders that I can not delete in anyway....

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    The only thing that worked for me, was to mount the partition in another OS (Ubuntu was my choice), show hidden folders and navigate to .Trash / 502 and deleting those files manually.

    I hope it helps to someone else :-)

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    Our advice: Get rid of Tuxera. It's known to cause corruption, data loss, and problems with writing to NTFS drives and partitions. The only real safe driver to use with your Mac is Paragon NTFS from Paragon Software. Still only $19.95.

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    Try booting in Safe Mode and delete.
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