Leopard JDK 1.6 Support?

daccattato · Nov 13, 2007

I just bought my first mac book pro. I've upgraded the OS to 10.5 Leopard. This version only has Java 1.5 on it. I'm a Java developer and it's pretty important to have JDK 1.6 installed. Where can I find the installation for this? If this isn't supported, why wouldn't it be? Thanks in advance!

Del · Nov 14, 2007

There is no JDK 1.6 for the Mac platform as yet.

daccattato · Nov 20, 2007

does anyone have any inside information on when 1.6 will be released for mac. I just got a mac last week and don't really know their release schedule but I would imagine that this is an important issue to other Java developers. Anyone else concerned on this issue?

schweb · Nov 20, 2007

I have no idea. But considering Jobs earlier this year said. “Java’s not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big heavyweight ball and chain”, I wouldn't expect it soon.

Del · Nov 21, 2007

schweb said:
Nobody uses Java anymore.

He really should do a bit more research, Java is everywhere including in the Mars rover.

Aptmunich · Nov 21, 2007

According to some reports I've read, they're definitely still working on Java support and will add it in at some point.

It's disapppointing it's taking Apple this long and I think they might be better off turning it back over to Sun to develop.

Also check this out:
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/2007/11/19

knightlie · Nov 22, 2007

Del said:
He really should do a bit more research, Java is everywhere including in the Mars rover.

Agreed. He's treating Java as a second-class citizen, and it's a bit Microsoft-y if you ask me. "Use our stuff or go away."

daccattato · Nov 30, 2007

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/29/leopard-run-java
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1196049&tstart=0

The apple forum was locked down. The list keeps going if you do a google search. I am dissapointed.

Wilcon · Nov 30, 2007

First off any Vista user has to downgrade to 1.5 to use Java. So why on Earth is Apple being harpooned over this. Java 6 just came out and people are up in arms over it not being supported by Apple. Yet here we are discussing 1.5 so what does that say about the community at large? Microsoft is pushing Visual programming via C# more than Java, heck the major support is still VB with Microsoft.

technologist · Nov 30, 2007

schweb said:
I have no idea. But considering Jobs earlier this year said. “Java’s not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It’s this big heavyweight ball and chain”, I wouldn't expect it soon.

News to me. I remember a major online music store used to be powered by Java, via WebObjects. And some computer company used to run their online store the same way. The computer company never had much market share, though. I guess they've gone out of business. Or maybe they switched to ASP.NET. ;D

daccattato · Dec 2, 2007

Wilcon said:
First off any Vista user has to downgrade to 1.5 to use Java. So why on Earth is Apple being harpooned over this. Java 6 just came out and people are up in arms over it not being supported by Apple. Yet here we are discussing 1.5 so what does that say about the community at large? Microsoft is pushing Visual programming via C# more than Java, heck the major support is still VB with Microsoft.

I don't do visual programming with Java. I use it for serverside programming and there are lots of libraries that have 1.6 requirements. Also, I have a another computer running Vista Ultimate that runs Java 6 just fine. Where did you get that information?

Wilcon · Dec 2, 2007

Several developers on-site have had to go back to 1.5. It also could be a difference in Vista packages as well, I cannot confirm if they all use Ultimate although one would assume. I understand the server side requirements, but I was of the understanding that 1.5 would work. what is it you are working with?

daccattato · Dec 5, 2007

I'm a developer for the Red5 project, but in general new JDK's are released because they offer features that previous JDK's don't provide. I don't think anyone should have to justify the significance of supporting the latest JDK. It would be extremely naive for apple to think we don't care about the upgrade.

daccattato · Dec 19, 2007

Just saw this over at MacRumors: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=402472

"Apple has seeded developers with two updates tonight.

The first is the Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C7) update which lists fixes to 76 distinct issues. Bug fixes range from memory leaks, various printing issues, SMB support and more. Apple issued Mac OS X 10.5.1 in November and has recently updated retail copies of Leopard to include the full 10.5.1 version. A Page 2 rumor pegs the Mac OS X 10.5.2 final release at Macworld Expo in January.

Next, Apple has finally seeded Java SE 6 Preview 8 for Leopard. Apple had been secretive about the Java 6 support for Leopard and the product launch was met with disappointment amongst Java developers hoping for support for the latest version. Tonight's release provides an implementation of Sun's Java SE 6 for Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and includes Java SE 6 version 1.6.0_01. This latest seed requires a 64-bit capable Intel-powered Mac and is described as having received only limited testing thus far.

Article Link
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=402472"

Discerptor · Dec 20, 2007

http://developer.apple.com/

Make an account if you don't already have one (it's free), and Click on the "Downloads" link after you sign in. The first one on the list (most recent one) should catch your eye. If it's not there when you read this, click on the "Java" link after going to "Downloads." I hope your MacBook Pro is Core 2 Duo.