Mac Viruses - Security

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They can if someone writes one for a known exploit, that rarely happens. I can't access the e-week article from work, but the second site lists one that is a few years old. I suspect the vulnerability that it exploited has long since been patched by Apple.

I've not run any AV for 4 or 5 years now and had no issues.
 
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quote from the eweek article:

"This is not a virus, does not propagate itself and has only been found on a peer-to-peer network," said a company spokesman. "This is an example of the perils of seeking illegal software."

if you go downloading random programs off the internet, then yes, malicious software can effect macs. if you are responsible and use common sense, it will not be an issue.
 
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What's a "Mac Virus"?
 
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but this whole theory about macs having no virus or security problems is not true as viruses or malichious software can be written for anything. its just a case of there not being as many for macs as they are not nearly as popular as windows.
 
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but this whole theory about macs having no virus or security problems is not true as viruses or malichious software can be written for anything. its just a case of there not being as many for macs as they are not nearly as popular as windows.

Whether they can be written or not, the fact is they're not out there, and even if they were OSX's security means they probably wouldn't be able too do much.

I could write a program to empty your Home folder and email it to you disguised as something else - that's not a virus, and the results are not due to any security flaws in OSX.
 

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but this whole theory about macs having no virus or security problems is not true as viruses or malichious software can be written for anything. its just a case of there not being as many for macs as they are not nearly as popular as windows.

A potential exploit and a virus that takes advantage of an exploit are two different things.

There are always holes in operating systems, as there will be in any software that is made by human beings.

A virus (or better said, a "worm") can be created to take advantage of an exploit. If the exploit is patched before a worm is created, there is no threat.

As yet, there have been plenty of exploits discovered, but there has never been an actual virus or worm that infiltrated the Mac outside of a lab environment.

By contrast, Windows has been attacked by active Malware consistently since its release. OS X has never had an active infection in the wild. Much of this is due to the fact that even if a worm were to penetrate via an open hole, the user typically doesn't have enough rights for it to be destructive in the first place. The end result is that worms haven't been written, because the potential for one is limited due to OS X's inherent security strengths.

So, while in effect, there is a potential for a virus on a Mac, there has not been one in the 7 years since OS X was released.
 
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but this whole theory about macs having no virus or security problems is not true as viruses or malichious software can be written for anything. its just a case of there not being as many for macs as they are not nearly as popular as windows.

Or it could be that there are not as many holes to exploit to begin with, therefore it takes more work to find one to exploit.
 
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By contrast, Windows has been attacked by active Malware consistently since its release. OS X has never had an active infection in the wild. Much of this is due to the fact that even if a worm were to penetrate via an open hole, the user typically doesn't have enough rights for it to be destructive in the first place. The end result is that worms haven't been written, because the potential for one is limited due to OS X's inherent security strengths.

Agreed.

If you set up OSX properly in the first place (e.g. set up an administrator account, and use a normal user account day-to day) you will be very safe, because you are effectively cocooned in your own little user space. This is very similar with Linux.

Windows, on the other hand is different. Even a basic user can create, update and delete files within areas such as the root of the system drive, It's only when writing to System32 orthe registry that the user is blocked, which is rather dangerous. the security system in windows provides little protection, but causes endless grief when trying to install apps.
 
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but this whole theory about macs having no virus or security problems is not true as viruses or malichious software can be written for anything.
And this is why I often 'correct' those who make the claim that "Macs don't get viruses". There are none in any active circulation, nor has there been. Of course, it could happen one day and yes any computer can fall victim to security threats regardless of the OS it runs.
its just a case of there not being as many for macs as they are not nearly as popular as windows.
That is not the case, despite popular opinion.
It has nothing to do with market share, popularity of the system, or anything of that nature. It has to do with the inherent security of the OS. It is much more difficult for a virus or malware to take hold and propagate itself under OS X.
Yes, that security can be threatened and exploited if someone were persistent in cracking it, but it is not an easy task, hence the reason most virus/malware writers don't bother trying it.
 
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And this is why I often 'correct' those who make the claim that "Macs don't get viruses". There are none in any active circulation, nor has there been. Of course, it could happen one day and yes any computer can fall victim to security threats regardless of the OS it runs.
That's more a case of semantics though. Macs "don't get" viruses, yet it "could be possible".
 
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Windows, on the other hand is different. Even a basic user can create, update and delete files within areas such as the root of the system drive, It's only when writing to System32 orthe registry that the user is blocked, which is rather dangerous. the security system in windows provides little protection, but causes endless grief when trying to install apps.

Exactly. Windows "security," such as the laughable Windows File Protection, is geared towards tidying up after a security breach, rather than implementing security at a low enough level to prevent the breach. User Access Control, for example, is just a simple confirmation dialog - once you answer OK, whatever triggered the question has free reign.

Windows File Protection watches to see if any critical files are overwritten, then restores them from a backup cache if they are. This kind of kindergarten security - literally closing the door after the horse has bolted - seems to be the only way Microsoft can make Windows "secure." I think it's quite funny, really.
 

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