mac-like behavior found in other places...

glyndav said:

Powerbook, lol. OK, I stand corrected. I can't believe you found all that out to be honest!

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my friends have alot of cars lol...


you know.. thinking about innovation and mac like things... my watch is kinda mac-like... its a citizen eco-drive (got it as a gift).. runs on solar power, and has all the time zones in the world one button to chose the time zone and then hit both buttons at the same time and it changes to the correct time zone... its pretty neat.

yeah, it was just supposed to be fun. find something different that "just works" just like a mac.

(the side discussion about car lights was an unfortunate incident)

Actually, I think the side discussion about the car lights was interesting. It illuminated (no pun intended) what people think "Mac-Like" behavior is when it comes to another product. I found it rather helpful to the course of this thread.

I would further like to ask you all what attributes you would cite when describing "Mac-Like" behavior. Is it Ease of use? Style? Design? A combination of them? Is it something new and different, something out of the ordinary, something odd in a good way?

good question baggss!
well, mac-like could be decided by any one of us. and may be interpreted a bit differently depending on a number of criteria, probably most predominant would be whether you're a recent switcher (as i am) or someone who's lived and breathed macs for years (as many of you are).

i do think design is a factor here. maybe as much as function. though design is or may be more of a taste issue. in any case, it's partially about the cliched "thinking outside the box" and equally as much does that latteral thinking result in clever workable alternatives to standard answers to every day questions/problems/tasks?

Ok, your thinking along the same lines as I am eric. Anyone else?

AHA! pbg4 - are you talking about drls (daytime running lights)? if so, i meant real lights, the full compliment, all parking lights and normal headlights (not low power or high beams typically used as drl).
if it's not that, still waiting on the other answer for "auto on when dark and/or delay shut off".

i'm guessing that the type of upscale car most of your exaples are, that they have both of these, not the type i'm describing in the subaru which would be far too 'crude' for cars such as bimmers and mercs.

baggss said:

Ok, your thinking along the same lines as I am eric. Anyone else?

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I agree, I was thinking along the lines of easability, anything that helps me do what I need to do in every day life, but also in style. Like a burger injected with cheese.

Bizarre analogy I know, but I havent eaten in a while.

God I want that burger.

My VW has cobalt blue dash lights... the same color as the Apple in OSX...


My HP printer is very Mac-like. Connects in multiple ways to the network, works with whatever IP address it gets without having to change anything, has functional on-screen controls, auto-senses document size and matches to optimal resolution when scanning, etc.

My iPod is very Mac-like <G>

My microwave is very Mac-like. Smart buttons, able to be set to different time values based on things you cook regularly. Ingenious!

That's all I've got for now...

eric said:

AHA! pbg4 - are you talking about drls (daytime running lights)? if so, i meant real lights, the full compliment, all parking lights and normal headlights (not low power or high beams typically used as drl).
if it's not that, still waiting on the other answer for "auto on when dark and/or delay shut off".

i'm guessing that the type of upscale car most of your exaples are, that they have both of these, not the type i'm describing in the subaru which would be far too 'crude' for cars such as bimmers and mercs.

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ok... now i am even confused about the topic at hand, lol.

I got a glossy white halogen lamp on my computer desk beside my iMac G5 and they go together very well. Does that count? :mac:

if the light never fails you... then yes.

ROTFL

Gotcha!

PowerBookG4 said:

ok... now i am even confused about the topic at hand, lol.

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here, check this out...
http://cartalk.com/board/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=375956
it seems to have confused even some real car guys! (i'm subaruissimo on cartalk)

eric said:

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mine simply turn off when you turn off the car. period. simple.
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Much better to have the headlights stay on for ~60 seconds. Gives you enough light to walk to your door safely, find the right keys, and unlock the door before you get stuck in the dark fumbling.

The lights-off-with-ignition approach sounds like a cost cutting move. Save sixty cents by replacing the timer with a switch. My bet is that Subaru will upgrade their headlights to a timer soon, now that Toyota has taken over from GM.

toyota bought gm's stake in subaru or did toyota buy subaru in it's entirety from fuji heavy industries?

i hadn't heard any of that. i'll have to check.

if toyota treats subaru anything like gm did, all they'll do is use their existing platforms (ala the saab 9-3).

not sure the delay is really that useful. i didn't find it so when i had a cadillac eldorado. really, how often, or how many people are going to always have the car parked outside and nose towards their front door?


found the info:
(from autoblog.com)

Toyota Motor will buy an 8.7 percent position in Fuji Heavy Industries, parent company of Subaru, from General Motors. GM, which currently owns 20 percent of Fuji, will sell its remaining 11.4 percent stake into a Fuji open-market share buy-back program, completely liquidating its position in Fuji by the end of the week.

so toyota will have even less "say" than gm had... excellent!

eric said:

here, check this out...
http://cartalk.com/board/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=375956
it seems to have confused even some real car guys! (i'm subaruissimo on cartalk)

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lol i see how you talk to me about the only cars i know are expensive ones (I have had 3 cars even though I am 18.. I crashed the first one... second my parents got me to replace the first and the last one i got on my own (working for it) but some of my friend are older and i have been in / driven all of them. .. but reading your post on their forums made me understand it better... all the cars I have ever been in / drivin (excluding the mustang) has a delay... i got confused. (as in car goes off, you walk to your door, put the key go into your house, lights go off, on most cars if you hit the lock then the lights go off) so now that we have that settled, i was confused.. your car has a pretty cool feature.. although I like the option for delay... I need sleep its 2:30 in the morning and I have been up since early yesterday morning!