Well, I wanted a cheap Apple so I started with the G3 but that didn't work (and still doesn't; it's getting my royal hammer treatment tonight) so I bought a G4 around the same time because it was local so I picked it up. The audio didn't work and I couldn't get it to do anything, so I bought a Creative Live! for Mac and found it only supported OS9 and earlier (son of a bee-sting!!!). My only reason for getting a Mac was to run OSX so this defeats the purpose, and I wasn't going to spend $50-100 on a M-audio sound card that would work with OSX. When I was pondering what to do, I saw a barebone G4 MDD system on eBay that was local and sniped it at $220ish. That same day I took it to work with me, put it on the workbench, installed my G4 DA's video card, found some DDR I had lying around, hooked up my new 160GB Seagate, and tested it and all was well. That is my latest project and I've got plenty of parts coming in for it. I'm going to load it up with 1GB DDR, ATi Radeon 9800Pro, and DVD burner. Then I found a KVM switch so I can switch back and forth from my PC and new G4 MDD. That is the plan anyways; I may encounter a good deal on a G5 along the way...