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However, I would assume that when someone discovers such a mistake they would inform the person who made it rather than unilaterally making a change.

This was exactly the purpose of my earlier post (post #5). To inform you that I improved/corrected the thread title. My earlier post was in no way meant to answer your computing questions.

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New to iMac so I need some answers.
I joined this forum after exploring the Internet at considerable length and reaching the conclusion that this one was the best one to use to search for help and explanations..........

Hello again and welcome back! :) In re-reading your opening post, a number of your questions have already been addressed; please review the posts that you find useful and let us know which of your concerns have been answered and what additional questions you may still have? Dave
 
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I regret it if my comment caused a problem.

Thanks for posting back and hopefully your Apple computing questions can be answered here and I did reply earlier (since deleted by some admin/moderator) as it seemed you were actually posting as a Troll and to Nick especially as well as such.

I hope things work and go well for you and welcome to the mac-forums…




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May as well throw my question into this thread since it's more or less on topic.

I want to buy a Mac mini. It will be connected to my LG TV via HDMI. I don't need USB 3 because it will output to my Cambridge Audio DAC which only handles USB 2. I don't need an internal optical drive because I have a SuperDrive. HDD size doesn't matter because my music is on an external drive.

Software will be iTunes (I don't need it to sync with iOS. My MBP can handle that.) and VLC.

Which is the oldest (and presumably cheapest) model that will do what I need?

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Which is the oldest (and presumably cheapest) model that will do what I need?

Do you know if any of your software or hardware requires a specific OS (older OS or newer OS)? Maybe even non-music/audio apps that you may want to run on the Mac-Mini.

I know you mentioned iTunes (which should be no issue). You did mention the Cambridge Audio DAC. Possibily anything else?

Are you open to new or used...or only used?

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Do you know if any of your software or hardware requires a specific OS (older OS or newer OS)? Maybe even non-music/audio apps that you may want to run on the Mac-Mini.

I know you mentioned iTunes (which should be no issue). You did mention the Cambridge Audio DAC. Possibily anything else?

Are you open to new or used...or only used?

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Thanks for the answer Nick. I believe the Cambridge Audio manual mentions 10.6.8 and I've used it on every version from Mountain Lion to Sierra.

This will be a dedicated music player so I have no need to consider other software. It would be good if iTunes Remote would work with it but not essential.

It will be hard wired to an Airport Expewss.

Used would be better but if there are compelling reasons I'd consider the latest base model.
 

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Thanks for the answer Nick. I believe the Cambridge Audio manual mentions 10.6.8 and I've used it on every version from Mountain Lion to Sierra.

This will be a dedicated music player so I have no need to consider other software. It would be good if iTunes Remote would work with it but not essential.

"iTunes Remote" was mentioned (an app for controling iTunes via an iDevice). Not sure if this would also interest you. Since this computer would be an audio only device...the Apple Remote works great with iTunes...with the basic functions for forward, back, volume up, volume down, etc.

Here is a photo of them if you are not familar (below). The older white plastic one...and the newer alumimum model.

I know that the Apple Remote works with Mac-Mini's as new as 2012.

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"iTunes Remote" was mentioned (an app for controling iTunes via an iDevice). Not sure if this would also interest you. Since this computer would be an audio only device...the Apple Remote works great with iTunes...with the basic functions for forward, back, volume up, volume down, etc.

Here is a photo of them if you are not familar (below). The older white plastic one...and the newer alumimum model.

I know that the Apple Remote works with Mac-Mini's as new as 2012.

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That could be very useful. I hadn't considered that. I could use the remote from my AppleTV if the Remote app didn't work for any reason.
 
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That could be very useful. I hadn't considered that. I could use the remote from my AppleTV if the Remote app didn't work for any reason.


I just thought I'd mention the Logitech Harmony Remotes if they would work for your use. We use an old one to control just about everything in our entertainment setup… and it works very well.






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I just thought I'd mention the Logitech Harmony Remotes if they would work for your use. We use an old one to control just about everything in our entertainment setup… and it works very well.






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Thanks for that suggestion, Patrick. The Harmony is definitely on my wish list. I currently have about 8 remotes on the go. I've checked the Logitech website and it appears I can replace all of them except one; that which controls my TV. The LG remote has mouse functions which the Harmony can't replicate.

My thoughts are tending towards a refurbished Mini right now. The saving plus the warranty seem to make sense.
 
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New to iMac so I need some answers and have found some.

RadDave said “Review the posts that you find useful and let us know which of your concerns have been answered and what additional questions you may still have? Dave" I have done that and I hope that my reply is not to long.
toMACsh
“You can buy Microsoft Office for Mac. That will enhance the transition of Word, Excel, etc. files. Otherwise, you can try the free Libre Office and see if that works for you.”
I keyed Microsoft Office for Mac into the Internet and found that it costs £109.99 which seemed expensive although MS Office 10 is as expensive. I also saw “free copy” but always find there is a catch with “FREE”. About the only thing I use in MS is the Word program so I wonder if there is a stand-alone Word program in Apple and is “Apple” the correct term to use or should I say, “Mac”?
I was happy to read the comments on Apple security, the other platform offer a sweet shop of options.
I am considering the 21.5 iMac and recognise it may be more of a machine than I actually require but, to use an English expression, I’m a bit flash in that I prefer cars such as elderly Mercedes rather than new Mini’s. The same goes for computing. I prefer a 27 inch iMac but object to the price.
I thought about second hand or refurbished but decided to buy new but would welcome comments.
toMACsh
“perhaps English is a second/third language. As it is my only language, I have immense respect for anyone who can communicate in more than one tongue. Let's not be too harsh!”
Thanks for that. English as a second language, nay tis my first language although I did gather a smattering of Polish in the 1950s and some Mandarin while in the Far East a few of years later.
Thanks for the useful advice.
IWT
“Yes, you can copy over your data to the Mac; and here, I agree with toMACsh, that the outlay in purchasing Microsoft Office for Mac seems justified. As he said, there are free alternatives Open Office being another. I reckon your need for accurate reading/writing and duplication of Microsoft products makes Office a more reliable choice - my guess, anyway.
I know nothing about Emsisoft security although I think it is some kind of Firewall?? - but I would ask what you use or need it for - there is no requirement for AV software for the Mac, but if it is for protecting files etc, then there are many Mac options. Moreover, Apple has its own Firewall protection and, for the brave, something called FileVault which completely encrypts your Hard Drive.”
I note that you wrote, “21.5 iMac you detailed seems more than sufficient for your needs, as specified. The iMac comes, yes, with an Operating System , which will depend on whether you are buying new or second hand (I wasn't quite sure about your intention in that respect). It will be either El Capitan, or if new, macOS Sierra. In addition, there are numerous apps native to Apple.
There is no requirement for AV software for the Mac, but if it is for protecting files etc, then there are many Mac options. Moreover, Apple has its own Firewall protection and, for the brave, something called FileVault which completely encrypts your Hard Drive.”
I was heartened to read, “There is no requirement for AV software for the Mac”. I have thought about buying second hand or refurbished but decided to buy new but would welcome comments.”
Thanks for the useful advice.
KevinJS
“macOS is written for equipment that Apple designs and is free of bloat as a result. Apple's own Pages, Numbers and Keynote are also available, not free but reasonably cheap and are file compatible with MS Office. Migrating files is easy. Just share your Windows drives on your network and drag over what you need in Finder, or use the built in Migration Assistant to automate the process.
No idea what your research involves but if you want to make an ebook out of it, then iBooks Author is the tool and is free. Split screen mode is handy for having, example, Safari and Pages open together without having menu bars etc getting in the way.” I was glad to read the above especially the words on ebook which will speed up my writing. My dyslexia, if that’s what it is means that when I look at a paragraph of a book by the time I start to copy it to my computer I have forgotten it. The ebook should allow me to cut and paste to my work and make my comments obviously with acknowledging the author.
Thanks for the useful advice.

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The modified thread matter has shown me not to be so quick to hit the keyboard.
badshoehabit
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25125...S&locale=en_US This is a remarkable helpful list of applications on offer for a Mac. The entry on “Pages” persuaded me to look at it on the Internet which was worth doing. It looks fascinating.
Thanks for the useful advice.
RadDave
“As to an Office equivalent, Apple's iWork Suite. You'll have to be more specific about whether you still need compatibility w/ the Microsoft programs - there are a number of solutions, used by many here; so, ask some more questions.”
My use of an iMac will primarily be to use it as a Word Processor in order to be to write on anything from, “What was the cause of the English Peasants Revolt” to “How on earth did a great country such as America find itself in a position where a person such as Trump might just win the Presidency?” or even, “Is motivation a valid concept?” In such writing I will use material that I possibly wrote years ago using Microsoft based software. I have and will continue to, use material I find on the Internet which I cut, paste and edit to my base writing sheet obviously noting its originator. I also hope to be able to use eBooks that I assume I will be able to cut and paste from them to a written page obviously acknowledging their origin.
If I live long enough I would like to build videos based on family photographs adding written comments, music and spoken words. However, its years since I have done that and I know it’s time consuming. In conclusion I do not know all of the questions to which I need answers to until they appear.
“Regarding your question on EmsiSoft, AV software is not needed w/ the macOS, i.e. nothing exists 'in the wild' regarding Apple viruses; your router should cover your firewall needs, although many of us also have the macOS firewall activated; as to malware related to internet browsing, there are some recommendations, as you need them.” I find the above paragraph most heartening because with Microsoft I found security a nightmare.
“Finally, I must say that your OP was poorly written w/ broken paragraphs and poor punctuation (not to mention the title correction needed) - next time do some proofing and use better, clearer organization (I was a medical writer for 35+ years and do have some experience) - there are great people on this forum who are willing to help - please adopt a better attitude, just saying. Dave.” And you criticise my attitude!
“Review the posts that you find useful and let us know which of your concerns have been answered and what additional questions you may still have? Dave
Rod Sprague
MS Office for Mac OS 2016 is a dream; I have just purchased it myself. There are many differences between the two platforms and the transition will take a little time but I am confident that with a little help (from us) you will grow to love it.
Thanks for that useful advice. I have a supplementary question: Why, MS Office for Mac OS 2016 and not Apple software, I don’t understood?

In conclusion many thanks to everyone who has given me help. I found it thrilling to see that membership is spread from Wisconsin, Canada, Tyneside, UK, North Carolina, Melbourne, Australia and Ubud, Bali, Indonesia and doubtlessly many other places.
 
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Hello Balliol1974 - thanks for your very thorough response upon reviewing posts left by a LOT of us! :)

I won't address all but left a post to your new thread on the iMac 21.5" which should get you started on that decision. :)

But just regarding several of your other issues:

1. macOS - the newest version is 10.12 called Sierra - this is a robust OS based on UNIX w/ plenty of security already built in, which also includes numerous other apps such as the ones shown below - this includes the Apple iWork Suite, i.e. Pages, Numbers, & Keynote (MS Office equivalents to Word, Excel, & PowerPoint) - the latter are excellent stand alone apps w/ cross-compatibility to their MS equals.

2. MS Office vs iWork Suite - the latter is fine if all that you need is basic word processing and spreadsheet needs; however, if you need to have FULL functionality w/ MS Office, then other options may be needed, i.e. Office is offered on the Apple OS and Windows can be run on macOS (e.g. Boot Camp, Parallels, et al).

3. Internet Security - as already discussed, viruses are not in the wild for the Apple OS, so AV software is NOT needed; firewalls are built into routers and also can be activated in the Apple OS (I run both); NOW, browsing malware is an issue and most of us use browser extensions to address this issue and other apps.

Hope this helps along w/ the other suggestions in the new thread that your posted. Dave :)
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I have done what I should have from the beginning and reduced my long list to a page of one liners which sets out a series of Crib points and thank you all for that.

I then found "Expert Reviews" This gave a good review on the iMac with a few criticisms which I don't think are terminal but I would welcome a comment on them. I'm getting there.

I Mac points.
Microsoft Office for Mac will enhance the transition of Word, Excel, etc. files.

The 21.5 iMac seems more than sufficient for your needs and comes with an Operating System. macOS Sierra.

I will be able to copy over data to the Mac.

Microsoft Office for Mac looks good.

Apple has its own Firewall protection and something called FileVault which completely encrypts the Hard Drive.

macOS is written for equipment that Apple designs and is free of bloat as a result.

Apple's own Pages, Numbers and Keynote, available, not free but cheap and file compatible with MS Office.

Migrating files, share Windows drives ,drag over what you need in Finder., or use the built in Migration Assistant.

If you want to make an ebook out of it, then iBooks Author is the tool and is free.

Split screen mode is handy for Safari and Pages open together without having menu bars etc getting in the way.

Full list of apps included in Sierra: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25125...S&locale=en_US Sue#7KevinJS

I think Pages, Keynote, and Numbers are only free when purchased with a new Machine.

As to an Office equivalent, Apple's iWork Suite, as already discussed by many, has worked for me.

Need to be more specific about whether I still need compatibility there are a number of solutions.

AV software is not needed w/ the macOS, i.e. nothing exists 'in the wild' regarding Apple viruses.

You are disenchanted with Windows , you fulfill the same requirements on the Mac platform?

MS Office for Mac OS 2016 is a dream, I have just purchased it myself.

“Trouble is, in part, that Windows has to be an OS for everything from a junior high school kid's Celeron powered laptop to a hard core gamers monstrosity that would require a second mortgage.” I don’t understand this.

Expert Reviews iMac
Ever-so-slightly under-powered and expensive to upgrade, but the smaller 2015 iMac is still a great all-in-one
SPECIFICATIONS
Processor: Dual-core 1.6GHz Intel Core i5-5250U, RAM: 8GB, Front USB ports : None, Rear USB ports: 4x USB3, Total storage: 1TB hard disk, Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 6000, Display: 21.5in built-in glossy, Operating system: Apple OS X El Capitan
The entry-level iMac often gets forgotten in the world of Retina, 5K and desk-filling displays, but the 21.5in iMac still looks the part and is one of the cheapest ways to buy a desktop computer running OS X, save for the diminutive Mac Mini. It's also easily the best-looking all-in-one available, so if you're platform agnostic but want something pretty to grace your home, then this is it.
DESIGN, BUILD AND SCREEN
For £899 you get a fabulous-looking, wafer thin aluminium chassis, complete with sharp corners, tapering backside and robust stand. The current design is practically unchanged from when it first appeared in 2012, which itself is a mere evolution of the original unibody iMac look, but it still makes an impact - especially on those still using pre-2012 iMacs. I had several envious looks from colleagues who haven't been given an upgrade.
The placement of ports remains frustratingly unchanged, however. Admittedly this is so the iMac can maintain its uninterrupted lines and svelte figure, but it ameans you'll have to disturb your entire desk by rotating the iMac 45-degrees to reach any of the four USB ports, two Thunderbolt 2 connectors, 3.5mm audio jack or SD card reader. Apple doesn't supply any extension cables for USB devices and the supplied wireless Magic Keyboard does not come with any connectors.
These are still awkward to get to - bring on reversible USB-C
Away from this small irritation, there are other things about the iMac that don't compare favourably to Windows-powered PCs. One is fundamental: the screen size. Looking around the office, 24in monitors are the now the norm, and that's true at home too. 21.5in feels very small. Apple has fitted a Full HD panel with a glossy coating, which means colours jump out with a surprising degree of vibrancy. The glossy coating means you'll occasionally see yourself reflected in darker images, but the glass does a good job of muting reflections from most sources.
Actual screen performance is very impressive, with wide sRGB gamut coverage and decent contrast. We measured these at 97.7% and 919:1 respectively. However, contrast varies depending on your screen brightness settings: with automatic brightness enabled, the backlight adjusts to suit the on-screen image. This can be distracting, especially if you're working on a colour-sensitive project. Luckily it's easy to turn off in the OS X System Preferences menu. Adobe RGB coverage is much lower at 68.8%, so if you're working in print, you'll need to buy a higher-spec iMac, such as the 4K 21.5in model or the 5K 27in, which have greater colour accuracy.
Apple continues to produce the best built-in speakers around, and while things haven't changed for this year's model, they didn't really need to. Impressive bass, clear mid-range and controlled treble means you won't need to augment your iMac with desktop speakers, unless you work with audio, of course.
PERFORMANCE AND UPGRADES
Buy a budget iMac, get budget performance. The dual-core Intel Core i5-5250U is a notebook-spec chip that you'd expect to find in a mid-range laptop. There's no real problem with this; I've always found U-spec Intel Core i5 processors to be most agreeable in Windows laptops, and the silky Mac OS X El Capitan continues to feel as buttery smooth as ever. There are occasional hiccups when opening multiple programs at once, though, and multimedia tasks, while handled capably, won't be anywhere near as fast as they would be on the more expensive models. It managed an overall score of 42 in our 4K benchmarks, which is very respectable for a dual-core processor.
If you're a multimedia professional, you'll know that the occasional hangs you get in Photoshop and Illustrator can be annoying, so if you have the budget to spend a little more on the quad-core 2.8GHz Core i5 model (from £1,049), you absolutely should. If you're just looking for a capable all-in-one for more modest tasks and occasional multimedia use, then this base model will suit you just fine. The base model comes with 8GB of RAM, which is enough for most modest multimedia projects. More complex, high-resolution video projects will require more, and Apple lets you double your RAM for a cool £160.
The integrated Intel HD Graphics 6000 won't be able to cope with the latest 3D games at high resolutions, but I had no problems firing up a quick game of Hearthstone, which ran smoothly and without incident. Older 3D titles will be playable, but you'll want a higher-spec 27in iMac if you want to play a few games.
The base specification only includes a mechanical hard disk. The 1TB capacity is reasonable, but it's disappointingly slow, managing around 100MB/s read and write speeds in the BlackMagic disk benchmark. If you already own a MacBook with an SSD, you'll definitely notice the speed difference when transferring files, and with no way to upgrade post-purchase you'll want to pay extra for faster storage. The £80 1TB Fusion Drive includes 24GB of SSD cache, which OS X intelligently moves your most frequently accessed files and programs to for improved performance. Alternatively, 256GB of fast flash storage will set you back £160.
 
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I apologise for doubling up above and wonder if anyone could edit it down!

Yes...those posts are VERY lengthy. I read an article recently that said the average adult has an 8 second attention span. Thus the average person seeing your posts won't even read them (too long)...and will move onto other threads/questions. Which then translates into no responses or fewer responses.

Keep the posts short, simple, and concise. And if you have multiple thoughts...break them up into multiple posts. Or if they are different topics...start multiple threads.

As far as "editing". This is your job.;)

Use the edit button located at the lower right area of each post::)

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