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Say what you wish but sir, you are wrong.


Tell you what. Let's check back on this thread in a year, and see where the stock price is, how many Macs Apple is selling, and what the best-selling portable from them is. I'm betting you're the one that's wrong, and that the answers will be up, up, and the MacBook.

If I'm wrong, I'll say so. If you're wrong, you owe me an apology.

Deal?
 
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Are those people still not "getting it:" I put the costly watch link in this thread just to show that there is a market for a $10,000-plus watch. This is not meant to be a direct comparison nor justification for Apple Watch pricing. It's just there to make you aware of a market that some of you clearly weren't aware of, but does not deserve your ridicule just because you can't afford it or don't think it's worth it to you.

Most of the people reading this message have some stupid, pointless, or otherwise niche obsession or interest that has cost them, over time, far more money than an Apple Watch ever will. We don't sit around making fun of you because of it.
 

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Tell you what. Let's check back on this thread in a year, and see where the stock price is, how many Macs Apple is selling, and what the best-selling portable from them is. I'm betting you're the one that's wrong, and that the answers will be up, up, and the MacBook.

If I'm wrong, I'll say so. If you're wrong, you owe me an apology.

Deal?

You are misquoting me. I said you were WRONG on the performance of that 1.1 Ghz CPU in the thing and I am not wrong!!! :D You are too much! :D

The sheep will always follow apple, so I am sure they will have even more money in a year, but that does not make that 1.1Ghz CPU and overall performance of that machine a good deal for the price.
 

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Many things cost more than is justifiable based solely on components. A friend of mine who got divorced sold his gold wedding ring. No one buys second hand wedding rings, so you only get scrap value for it, which was about a tenth of the price he had paid just three years earlier. The 'Edition' Watch is clearly intended to be a status symbol but it is not unprecedented: Four Vertu Gold Cell Phone Unveiled. I wouldn't buy one, but there are people who will.

I am unsure about the Apple Watch, but I know that it has potential and I want it to succeed. If no one buys the gen 1 product, there won't be a gen 2. I don't know the figures for the iPhone 5C but it only had the 12 month run so presumably that was considered a failure by Apple and there won't be any more.

The only bind is that the model I want is the space black steel one...
 

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Tell you what. Let's check back on this thread in a year, and see where the stock price is, how many Macs Apple is selling, and what the best-selling portable from them is. I'm betting you're the one that's wrong, and that the answers will be up, up, and the MacBook.

If I'm wrong, I'll say so. If you're wrong, you owe me an apology.

Deal?
I see that you're sticking with the "the more something sells, the better it is." I'm not really sure how that's a defensible argument but so be it. I'm intrigued why finances trump technical merit when talking about technology but everyone is entitled to (flawed) justifications that they prefer.

It's just there to make you aware of a market that some of you clearly weren't aware of, but does not deserve your ridicule just because you can't afford it or don't think it's worth it to you.
I'm sure we're all well aware that you can buy products in any category that are beyond our respective income levels. And really, we aren't allowed to critique things because we feel as though it's too expensive? I take it then that you'd reserve judgment for a $100,000 Android phone or a $100,000 Windows machine because "you can't afford it or don't think it's worth it to you."

Bottom line: cost of something does not insulate it from critique. If you gave me a $2 steak and a $10,000 steak, I'd subject both to my sense of taste and pleasure.

Most of the people reading this message have some stupid, pointless, or otherwise niche obsession or interest that has cost them, over time, far more money than an Apple Watch ever will. We don't sit around making fun of you because of it.
Seeing as how the watch isn't available, it's hard to mock people for owning something that they can't. Secondly, no one is making fun of anyone who wants a watch. No one. We've been discussing the watch as a piece of technology, not as something personal (again, however much Cook wants to position it as "personal," it's still just a piece of technology).

I know you ardently defend Apple but I'm curious to know why this is so personal for you.
 
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i've read through the 3 pages and been to the Apple site and still I wonder, Can the watch surf the internet?
 

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I don't think it can. Watching a demo where the Apple Genius zooms out on the Watch home screen you can see literally dozens of apps but none show the Safari symbol.
 
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I can see "Watch" versions 2 and 3 etc, coming because this one is a "baby" in design. I can justify 8 or 900 dollars for a disposable iPhone because my carrier pickes up the cost if I sign a 2 or 3 year service contract. By the time the contract ends i'm excited about the new innovations my new free phone has. This will not be the case with the Watch. I have a few very expensive watches, that will last a lifetime, and always have some re-sale value in the future. I find it hard to wrap my head around this first version, at this price point, a product that is obsolete before it even hits the shelves.
 

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I imagine that the experience wasn't far off (although that's much funnier). I imagine someone must have pointed out how limited the machine was in spite of an executive that probably said, "screw it, build it...the profit margins are too high to care about trivial details..."
 

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I imagine that the experience wasn't far off (although that's much funnier). I imagine someone must have pointed out how limited the machine was in spite of an executive that probably said, "screw it, build it...the profit margins are too high to care about trivial details..."

Agreed. And they know that there is a certain segment of apologists (ahem) that will buy anything with an Apple logo on it. So, why not?
 

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Agreed. And they know that there is a certain segment of apologists (ahem) that will buy anything with an Apple logo on it. So, why not?

And the Logo does not even Glow any longer! Bummer! :D
 

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Some of you will appreciate this, many of you will not. But I just about lost it....

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153223388759063

Looks like a disgruntled employee to me. I don't think that the "engineer" person (guy with mustache & missing 50% of his teeth). Can say those things (and in the manner he said them)…and still keep his job (or maybe he lost it prior to the TV show).

- Nick
 

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Looks like a disgruntled employee to me. I don't think that the "engineer" person (guy with mustache & missing 50% of his teeth). Can say those things (and in the manner he said them)…and still keep his job (or maybe he lost it prior to the TV show).

- Nick

I'm pretty sure the whole thing was satire.
 

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I'm pretty sure the whole thing was satire.

Ok…that makes me feel better.:) Not being familiar with the show's format…or what the setup info was for the "interview"…I wasn't 100% sure.

I was thinking if it was real…Apple must have a pretty bad dental plan!;)

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I imagine that the experience wasn't far off (although that's much funnier). I imagine someone must have pointed out how limited the machine was in spite of an executive that probably said, "screw it, build it...the profit margins are too high to care about trivial details..."

Do you have have a clue as to the time, effort, thought and money it takes to design a notebook like that? There are many better alternatives if short-term profit what Apple is after.

This is clearly the first Apple product that:

a. Isn't cheap.
b. Takes "bold" steps in omitting aging technology.
c. Adds new features that provide a better experience.
d. Is made well, using quality materials.

Since it's so unique wrt the above, this MacBook must have profit written all over it.
 

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you saying the MagSafe is Aging tech? Ever trip over your power adapter cord on a PC and have it hit the ground?
 

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Do you have have a clue as to the time, effort, thought and money it takes to design a notebook like that? There are many better alternatives if short-term profit what Apple is after.

This is clearly the first Apple product that:

a. Isn't cheap.
b. Takes "bold" steps in omitting aging technology.
c. Adds new features that provide a better experience.
d. Is made well, using quality materials.

Since it's so unique wrt the above, this MacBook must have profit written all over it.

Please tell me you're kidding.
 

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