• The Mac-Forums Community Guidelines (linked at the top of every forum) are very clear, we respect US law and court precedence when it comes to legality of activity.

    Therefore to clarify:
    • You may not discuss breaking DVD or BluRay encryption, copying, or "ripping" commercial, copy-protected DVDs.
    • This includes DVDs or BluRays you own. Even if you own the DVD or BluRay, it is still technically illegal under the DMCA to break the encryption. While some may argue otherwise, until the law is rewritten or the US Supreme Court strikes it down, we will adhere to the current intent of the law.
    • You may discuss ripping or copying unprotected movies or homemade DVDs.
    • You may discuss ripping or copying tools in the context that they are used for legal purposes as outlined in this post.

transfer / copy from DVR to Computer

Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
100
Reaction score
0
Points
16
Hello - Is there some way to copy or transfer a program saved on a DVR to the computer (iMac)
Thanks
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
There probably is but we are going to need a few more details.
What is the Make and model of the DVR? What are the computer's specs (model, memory, hard drive space etc)?
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2012
Messages
5,053
Reaction score
414
Points
83
Location
North Carolina
Your Mac's Specs
Air M2 ('22) OS 14.3; M3 iMac ('23) OS 14.3; iPad Pro; iPhone 14
There probably is but we are going to need a few more details.
What is the Make and model of the DVR? What are the computer's specs (model, memory, hard drive space etc)?

@ Mickibob - please provide the information requested, plus whether the DVR is part of your cable package, the type of programming you are trying to transfer, and the reason(s) you want to put the DVR content onto your computer?

For myself, I have Time-Warner cable w/ their DVR (some features are disabled on the 'generic' device), so there may be limitations depending on your machine. For years, I've been recording old TCM movies in public domain and then burning them to DVD on a stand alone Sony DVD recorder (shown below) using just RCA connectors (i.e. one for video and 2 for sound) - I'm on my second Sony model which does dual layer DVD blank discs.

Two problems which you may have to confront: 1) I have to record to DVD in 'real time', so takes a while! and 2) I have no option to grab an AV file from the DVR (e.g. using a USB stick) to transfer to say a HD on a computer. If your DVR does not permit easy file transfer then the time factor might be an issue for you.

There should be no problem in hooking your DVR to your computer w/ some type of AV connection (e.g. HDMI if compatible) but you may have to deal w/ the issues above. Good luck - Dave :)
.

419X-8knkpL.jpg
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
I'm doing something similar with a firewire cable and the firewire port on the cable box. Recording to the computer must still be done in real time. Files can get huge though depending upon the format the box uses. MPG 2 Transport Streams (M2T) is a common format. The files run roughly 12 GB per hour before conversion.

Upside to this process is the transfer is entirely digital and I can use equipment I had on hand. There was no need for a stand-alone burner. The downside is that conversion can be slow on older gear. Occasionally you will get a file that does not transfer properly. I suspect this is either a corrupted stream or I've selected something that may be copy protected.
 
OP
M
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
100
Reaction score
0
Points
16
The DVR is included in the cable box made by Cisco that we get with our set up from Time Warner. I want to make a copy of a program on which my group was interviewed (the station doesn't make copies anymore) on so that we can use it to show other interested groups.
The computer is an iMac running 10.6. I have 122 GB so space available.

Thanks for all your suggestions.
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
To be much more specific than we have been so far we will need to know the model of the box. Some companies have crippled various features of their boxes. The easiest method would probably be to use a video camera that has pass thru recording capabilities. Once on the camera the file can usually be moved to the computer.

If your cable box has analog video output (red, white, yellow) something like this should do the trick. El Gato has a similar device which I believe is called EyeTV
 
OP
M
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
100
Reaction score
0
Points
16
The model is 8742HDC. On the back is this configuration

OUTPUT
video

yellow green
white blue
red red
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2012
Messages
5,053
Reaction score
414
Points
83
Location
North Carolina
Your Mac's Specs
Air M2 ('22) OS 14.3; M3 iMac ('23) OS 14.3; iPad Pro; iPhone 14
The model is 8742HDC. On the back is this configuration..............

Hi again - googled the model # above and found the pic shown below (my T-W cable box is made by Scientific Atlanta but the back looks virtually identical to yours). As described by Slydude, the yellow-white-red outputs are the old RCA AV standards and would provided composite video and bi-channel sound - he provided a link to an USB adapter for this connection made by Roxio which included software to capture the video - might be your best option (and likely other adapters & software exist).

The adjacent green-blue-red outputs are component video for a HD signal (a fourth audio cable would be needed) - there are likely adapters for this type of connection if the recording was done in HD and that is what is desired?

Also notice that there are other connections, e.g. HDMI & SATA (the latter might allow connection to an external HD) but like my DVR, I'm assuming that these are probably disabled by the Time-Warner people, often the case. Good luck - Dave :)

.

Screen Shot 2014-07-16 at 3.42.59 PM.png
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
Beat me to it RadDave. You're spot on as usual. It looks like the port on the far end is labeled 1394 which would make it a firewire port. That is what I am using but as I mentioned it can be a pain in the butt to deal with. Not worth the headache if this is a one time thing.
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2012
Messages
5,053
Reaction score
414
Points
83
Location
North Carolina
Your Mac's Specs
Air M2 ('22) OS 14.3; M3 iMac ('23) OS 14.3; iPad Pro; iPhone 14
Beat me to it RadDave. You're spot on as usual. It looks like the port on the far end is labeled 1394 which would make it a firewire port. That is what I am using but as I mentioned it can be a pain in the butt to deal with. Not worth the headache if this is a one time thing.

Hi Sly.... - you seem to be our local expert in this area - your suggestion as discussed in the previous threads should work for the OP - for my Sony unit, I've used the old RCA SD connection (i.e. red/white/yellow) - probably have transferred over 700 oldie movies over the years - interestingly the last model of that Sony device cost me under $200 but now is listed for over $600 on Amazon - don't know why? Dave :)
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
Well I guess now I am going to have yo go a Googling for the answer. A you may have guessed I don't like not knowing the answer to these types of questions.

My bet would be that the newer models have some means of more strictly enforcing copyright. I had a video capture card that was so strict about that I couldn't even use the HDMI port as a pass thru to the TV with the cable box.

I almost bought either that unit or a similar one to do what you are doing. Ended up with a TiVO unit that had a burner built in. Bad idea. The DVD didn't last very long
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
Hey Dave which model of that machine do you have?

If it pre-dates 2007 that may be part of the issue. Many recorders made after 2007did not seem to be able to record things that older models had previously been able to record. The general consensus seems to be that changes in the copy protection schemes used by cable companies caused many of the devices made after 2007 to not record things that previous models could handle. Some older devices apparently were still able to record the content correctly.
 
Joined
Jan 20, 2012
Messages
5,053
Reaction score
414
Points
83
Location
North Carolina
Your Mac's Specs
Air M2 ('22) OS 14.3; M3 iMac ('23) OS 14.3; iPad Pro; iPhone 14
Hey Dave which model of that machine do you have?

If it pre-dates 2007 that may be part of the issue. Many recorders made after 2007did not seem to be able to record things that older models had previously been able to record............

Hi Sly.... - well, I was curious about when I purchased that Sony model (my second - wanted dual layer recording) - bought from Amazon, so did a search on my account (pic below) - bought in December 2011 for $155 only - can't imagine why the price is SO much more now (I'd expect the opposite)?

But I've just used it to 'burn' movies from the TCM channel - these films are in 'public domain' so not an issue of copyright - I would assume that a copyright program would not be accepted by this recorder? Never gave it a try - Dave :)
.

Screen Shot 2014-07-16 at 9.55.27 PM.png
 
Joined
Mar 20, 2016
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Points
1
DVR-MBP firewire

Need some help...was reading this thread because I had an issue today.
Yesterday I connected my MBP Retina to a Motorola DCH6416 DVR. I was able to transfer a recorded program on the DVR (yeah!) to my Mac (via Thunderbolt to Firewire adaptor and Firewire 400-800 cable). So, I know it can be done. I am using a program called FireRecord from Ammesset. Then today, I tried to do it with the next program but I kept getting the error that it could not find a device (meaning my DVR)

I am not sure if my cable and/or Tbolt-FW adaptor shorted or what. I have restarted the mbpro several times...even reinstalled the app...Can't seem to see the DVR from the FireRecord program anymore.

I am in the process of unplugging the DVR and waiting 10 min for it to reset...

Please help..
IS there any alternative application to the FireRecord program?
 

Slydude

Well-known member
Staff member
Moderator
Joined
Nov 15, 2009
Messages
17,596
Reaction score
1,072
Points
113
Location
North Louisiana, USA
Your Mac's Specs
M1 MacMini 16 GB - Ventura, iPhone 14 Pro Max, 2015 iMac 16 GB Monterey
For the benefit of those following this thread Btatro sent me a PM regarding this issue. What follows is the gist of what I responded to him.

I've used a progrgram called AVCVideoCap for what he wants to do. It used to be part of APple's Firewire SDK which you had to sign up for a developer account to access. At the time I did it a free account worked. I went in search of a working link to that SDK today but have not found a working one yet.

Based on what I have read previously and my experiences here are some things that might prove to be a pain when working with this project:
1. Some cable providers seem too be blocking access to the firewire port. You can physically make the connection but may not get a useable file.
2. Earlier versions of AVCVideoCap seemed to try to give you some indication of whether a file was likely copy protected. The version I have now seems to list everything as "Copy Freely" whether it is or not. You can't rely on that to tell you whether a file is copy protected. That may be part of the issue that some users have had with this process.
3. Some of the captured files open readily in MPEG Streamclip and others do not without first being converted to MPEG4 or some other format.
 
Joined
Nov 3, 2016
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Copy from DVR to Mac

Hopefully some will be able to help me out on here. I have the same question, here is what I am using:

My OS:
El Capitan
V 10.11.6

My DVR:
motorola vip2250

I tried using a method previously mentioned but the OS no longer supports DVArchive. How can I transfer content from my DVR to my Mac

Thank You,
 

Shop Amazon


Shop for your Apple, Mac, iPhone and other computer products on Amazon.
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon and affiliated sites.
Top