APE Basestation no longer seeing connected external HD

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Specs: 1: MacBook Pro early 2008 4,1 OS X 10.7.5
2: MacBook Pro mid 2009 5,5 OS X 10.8.1

Both of these computers used to see my Airport Base station in the sidebar of their respective Finder windows, and upon highlighting the airport icon in what I think was called "shared", it would connect to which ever external drive was connected to the router, either via hub or directly into it. I'm pretty sure I've done this while running Lion, but I can't be sure, and it has been quite some time since I've tried to connect this way.

I've been connecting externals to my MBP directly via a USB hub for the past several months. Now, however, neither my or my wifes MBP's will see anything. In Airport Utilities, under "disks", I don't even see the external, which obviously is not a good sign.

Not sure of what I'm missing, but I'm pretty sure everything is up to date firmware wise and I've tried various configurations with no luck. Hoping someone with more experience can lend a hand and some opinions.

Thanks!

Doug
 
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Really.. nuthin'?

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Sorry Doug, Never worked with the AEBS so have no clue. Hoping someone else will respond.
 
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I had to reset mine once, I think for a similar issue...
 
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I had to reset mine once, I think for a similar issue...

Are you currently using the Airport Extreme and with an external attached? I've already reset it recently due to having moved and setting up a new network.

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I'm pulling my hair out a bit here... I've read up on multiple support documents, other forums yada yada, and technically speaking, I can see no reason for my setup to fail like this, unless the Airport Utility preferences is holding the options back vs the old version?

The external drive is formatted as HFS Journaled (extended). I've tried reaching the router via finder "connect to server" with "afp://10.0.1.1" and get a message saying that it doesn't exist. I then try to browse, which brings me to the "Networks" directory and there is nothing at all in there.

I do of course have the sidebar and desktop preferences set to show connected servers, yet there is nothing that shows up under "shared" at all. And in Airport Utility, under Disks, there's a big fat nothing.

This is bugging me to no end, and I'm pretty sure it was working previously under Lion. Pretty darned sure.

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Are you currently using the Airport Extreme and with an external attached? I've already reset it recently due to having moved and setting up a new network.

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Yep, I've not had a recent problem with it either. That said, I'm a luddite.. and running Lion
 
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Yep, I've not had a recent problem with it either. That said, I'm a luddite.. and running Lion

I'm not necessarily a Luddite, but I am running Lion!

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So after having read through several different theories and such, one suggests that older firmware might solve the issue, since my early Airport Extreme may be one of many that has had the same issues when updating to the most recent firmware.

There doesn't seem to be a direct route towards getting older firmware, but believe that something in the following code from the Airport xml file might actually be a link to specific older firmware in its self. I see a 7.5.2 basebinary file that I can use in there via an http link. Going to try that and see what happens!



Code:
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    <key>AirPortUtilityWin</key>
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I was wrong, there IS a direct way to revert back to earlier firmware. And it doesn't involve any of that crud up above. Ya just opt click on the current version and it drops down a list of all versions that are viable.

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Aaand that did absolutely nothing for me. Running firmware 7.5.2, fixed disk permissions and even did a rain dance. Nuthin'. It has to be an OS update that broke things. I'm thinking about reinstalling Lion... yet again. Argh.

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Sorry to read about your trials here . . . wish I could help, but don't really have anything to add that others haven't said or you haven't already tried.
 
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Solved!

Holy cow! Of all the most trivial, simple and absolute dumbest reasons for not working.... I have solved most of the mystery.

Figured I'd do one last internet trawl before committing to reinstalling Lion or even ML for that matter and came across something interesting.
Check out step #3 on this, of all pages. Nothing found via apple.com, and I question whether or not an Genius/AppleCare would have gotten this little detail, though it is obviously documented somewhere on Apple's database.

https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answ...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM1MDQ1MDkxMi9zaWQvY1Y3Vl9WOGw=

So, I changed the name of the Airport to something short and simple, and I can now see one of the HD's attached to it. Problem now is, it says there's nothing on the HD, even though it is showing the correct volume, space and remaining space left. Hmm.. almost there I guess?

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Oh, crud. I think I've solved the other part of the mystery. The disk is formatted to FAT. I think that it will only work with HFS Extended *journaled*. Drats. Well, if that is the case, I can always move the stuff over to another back up drive and reformat it.

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Congrats on the progress, Doug.
 
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Congrats on the progress, Doug.

Thanks! I only hope that my experience with this can serve someone else, should the need ever arise.

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It would appear that the drama isn't over just yet. Really weird stuff going on for sure, and I still think it is tied to an OS update. I've been testing three external drives, and two of them truly work.

The working drive is a new iOmega 1TB eGo desktop drive. Under normal circumstances, it is hooked up to my 7 port USB hub, directly hooked up to the 2008 MacBook Pro. Works a charm. It also works via the Airport Extreme, as it shows up in Finder under "shared" right away. I also just tested an older 500 gig iOmega portable HD via micro USB and that also shows up right away. And the external that no longer shows up, used to work just fine, so I'm not sure of what is happening.

I'm messing with sharing permissions right now, amongst other things including trying various other USB cables and even the power source, even though the three I have work with it just fine under normal circumstances.

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Edit: Oh, and I was wrong earlier. All three HDD's are properly formatted to OS X Extended *journaled*
 
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This is driving me nuts! I've reformatted the external and it still won't show on in "shared" within Finder. Still works perfectly hooked up to the hub and MBP directly though. Permissions look the same as on the other drives so I'm stumped.

Is it possible that the external enclosure might play a role? Someone on the official Apple forums suggested such a thing, and I'm beginning to wonder..

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